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Old 02-08-2009, 06:24 PM   #1
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Just got done with lift

So I just finished my lift, and it is amazing. I still have a lot of tweaking to do, but I am so happy. The install was not hard at all. Although, I now have to chase down the DW that occurs only when I hit a bump at about 30-45 mph. I just got the alignment to start. The tires are still the 31's can't afford to go bigger yet. I gotta get rid of that chrome.
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:29 PM   #2
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That looks great man! Good job!
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:36 PM   #4
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oh man i'm gonna have to post some pics of my new lift, but i want to wait till i put the bigger tires on.
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Lookin' good.

Any interest in (4) 35" BFG MT KM with about 1500 miles on them? I'll be in the HoneyBrook area the last 2 weekends of the month so I could deliver most of the way.
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looks good! what lift is it?
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:28 PM   #7
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Many differant things kinda.

RC springs and lower control arms, Nth degree rear adjustable uppers, Skyjacker front adjustable trackbar and steering stabalizer, Terraflex rear adjustable track bar and rear shock relocators, Skyjacker disco's and Doetsch shocks cause I ran out of money.
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:53 PM   #8
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Lookin' good!! You're right, though, lose the chrome!!
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:08 PM   #9
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lol, thanks man. The running joke at work is that I was driving down the road and crashed into a JC Whitney catalog.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:12 PM   #10
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nothing wrong with that, when I first bought my Heep, I thought it was supposed to have chrome, but then my taste buds changed. Well, I got made fun of for it. Looks good though, sits nice.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:35 PM   #11
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Cool chrome whore?

please send all chrome my way-will pay reasonable price in good shape-love chrome
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:45 PM   #12
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:30 AM   #13
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nice lookin lift. you look ready for rausch creek!!
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Haha, cant wait. Maybe some bigger tires though. No point in lifting it if I cant get the extra ground clearence.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #15
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Nice. Looks good. I agree, rid yourself of the chrome, it saps jeeps of horsepower. Oh, and you need stickers.
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DW is often caused by a combination of things, and seldom just one particular problem. First, get the tires perfectly balanced. Most tire shops only balance tires to "good enough" which in a lifted TJ's case, is never quite good enough. Next, make sure your toe-in is set properly. If you know how, set it yourself to between 1/16" and 1/8". Finally, a loose trackbar is a big contributor to allowing DW to fully develop. When it is tight, triggering events like a bump in the road or out-of-balance tires can't build up into full-blown DW. But if it's not tight, DW can be the outcome of a triggering event that wasn't dampened out by a good tight front-end. For your '97, make sure the passenger-side mounting bolt of your trackbar is TIGHT, like 55 ft-lbs. if you have a torque wrench. Also make sure the mounting hole the bolt passes through isn't wallowed out which could allow the track bar to move even if its mounting bolt was tight.

Finally, have someone turn the steering wheel back & forth while you watch the front-end and steering components from the front. Look for anything that is moving that shouldn't be. Don't forget there is normal movement on things like the drag link, tie rod, etc. where they are held in place by their ball joints. Hope this helps.
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Thanks, Jerry. I did get it aligned. The toe was out by over 2 degrees.
The tires on it now are the ones I had on it with the BB, but Im sure if there unbalanced now is when I would feel it. I am waiting for the new steering stabalizer b/c right now I only have the stock one from 1997. As I was driving it today, I could not get the DW to come back (not saying I was trying).
When I installed the track bar, I made sure it was tight but I should probablly check all the bolts again after driving on it. The only thing that feels different now is that it is very easy to turn the wheels, like there is a lot of play before the jeep turns and it feels loose. Is this because of the change in steering geometry? Any fixes?

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Old 02-10-2009, 12:05 AM   #18
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Man, that came out great! Looks really good. Know what would look even better? My 34's and Rubi rims under that nice new lift Let me know if your still intereted man. Sounds like you got a good combination of parts on that lift though.
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Sb5551, that your tires feel balanced doesn't mean they are balanced well enough to keep Death Wobble at bay. I didn't suggest you get your tires perfectly balanced out of something that occurred to me in a dream, imperfectly balanced tires are a common and leading trigger of Death Wobble. And while your steering stablizer may or may not be bad, a bad one would not be the cause of Death Wobble... a new steering stabilizer can only temporarily suppress the symptoms of Death Wobble.
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I understand that Jerry, thats why I said if there unbalanced Im sure I would feel it now. I was agreeing with you, sometimes the words I think dont match with what I type.

The steering stabalizer I was more interested in for tightening up the steering. Do you have any idea why it would feel looser and less responsive now after the lift?
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Is there anyone there with you that can jump in the jeep and turn the wheels back & forth as you watch, to see if something is loose or hitting with the steering set-up.

After I did my lift 2yrs ago my steering was loose as well, turns out that a couple of the nuts & bolts needed re-tightening after initial test drive. Also check the TRE's in the linkage as it's being turned back & forth.

Back in decmeber I had major DW and turned out it was the Trackbar Bushing & Steering Stabilizer bushing that were shot. Replaced them and no issues since.

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Old 02-10-2009, 11:43 AM   #22
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Thanks Chris. Stupidly I didnt even think of that I dont know why.
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Upper track bar mount came loose for the upper heim joint. Is there a way to put a lock washer on it or should I use lock tite to prevent that fom happening.
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No problem... if you use Loctite, use the Blue Loctite....

DO NOT use red... red = permenant or needs torch to get off.... LOL
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The steering stabalizer I was more interested in for tightening up the steering. Do you have any idea why it would feel looser and less responsive now after the lift?
That's not the purpose of a steering stabilizer. If the steering doesn't feel right, it's likely an alignment issue... toe-in and/or the caster angle.
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The track bar was loose, you were correct in the beginning Jerry.

So, what is the purpose of a steering stabilizer? How would one know if its bad?
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:21 PM   #27
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Just got my wheels and tires today thanks to ScottinPA. I love the way this thing drives and looks now. Except I have no fifth gear. Lol. Gotta save up. I also removed the chrome side steps and front bumper plate.
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What size tires did you go with?
33''?
Btw it looks very good
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They are 35's. I need to add a body lift this weekend so they dont rub when I flex.
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