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Old 09-23-2008, 04:05 PM   #1
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Kick Start my Jeep! (not literally)

Hello everybody. Just getting started on my 2004 TJ "X". Bone stock, I think it was in an accident. Got an engine mount top plate twisted up, looks like a new fender and paint all on the right front. Carfax didn't help me there...

But I am about to order Rough Country 2.5" Progressive lift and Dunlop Mud Rovers 32-11.5-15 to go on my stock rims 15X8's I think right?
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Anyone see any problems with my rig... (with exceptions that I have to fix what someone else didn't do right.)

And this plate over the motor mounts... I can see that it is off slightly, I don't know why. But I do get a noise when it's under torque or turning the right way that is what made me look a lil closer at it. Any trick with the plate?

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Old 09-23-2008, 04:33 PM   #2
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sounds like youve got it under control. welcome to WF

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Old 09-23-2008, 04:36 PM   #3
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See twut I meen? It's been pulled to the front of the vehicle.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:43 PM   #4
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i do... but also dont know what exactly to tell you there, never encountered that problem before. some others should chime in sometime soon...jerry..jack..slf..moz..you guys out there??
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:11 PM   #5
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I put a fair amount of pressure to try and loosen the bolt after supporting the engine without prevail. In short... I don't wanna F'up this bolt so I gots some PB Blaster (penetrating oil) oozing it's way into the threaded hole in my frame. I'm hoping to hear something... somebody?

Ok... gonna go tug a lil harder... don't wanna heat it off being so close to that rubber.
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:20 PM   #6
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use a BFH!!!! (PB Blaster is a good idea)
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Old 09-23-2008, 05:57 PM   #7
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Gettin there

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I busted it loose, did the bottom bolt and tugged with a prybar and got into close position. But, I think it's busted? Is it supposed to be one peice or does it wrap around and clamp together at the bottomn on the inside? And it seems the engine is really wanting to push forward on this right side. Does the bracket mounting it to the block have an adjustment?
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:43 AM   #8
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I believe the unit is one piece and non-adjustable. Motor mounts do fail once in a while but on a 2004, that seems premature to me but could be related to an impact. If you losen the other side and the mount on the trans you should be able to re-align the motor and re-install the passenger mount.

Once you fix it, I would suggest you take it to a body shop and have them put the Jeep on a frame machine to check it out. It's cheap insurance and may save you a bunch of headaches down the road on your build.
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Old 09-24-2008, 03:09 PM   #9
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Well shight... aint that a bummer. Ok, it does look like it's been replaced before. For a stock Jeep I can find a lot of used bolts, scratches, and other things that signify repair all over that front end.

Heading down to Advanced auto for a new one. I'll see for sure what I am dealing with when I see the part new right out of the box.

Thanks guys for the info guys. I'm off!
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nono on Rough Country products!!!


As far as your tires, you might have some rubbing on full turns. I have 35x12.5r15 dunlop ATs (not mts) and they suk in rain and snow (not much experience with mud though).
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Old 09-24-2008, 09:25 PM   #11
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Bad experience with Rough Country? Or a friend? Or are they known to sell poop for products? I've got a set of Mud Rovers on my Dodge Ram... Down in S. Carolina the street racing tires were great... Ohio winters are not easy for a 2 wheel drive pick-up... had to get to the garage in reverse while in traffic so I would not spin out. Had them add on a set of Dunlop Mud Rovers, and I could get through all the shhhtuff the 4X4's were going through Of course they had stock, or near stock looking tires and no lift... at least from what I could see. But I had a 4X2 with knobbies... Limmited slip really does the trick. Wish my Jeep had limmited slip
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Rough country stands for something.. its gonna be rough lol. Ride sucks as its rough but quality is the main problem here. I have the 4" lift kit. The 4" springs started off a bit taller. I installed them and got ~4.5" lift in the rear and just under 5 in the front. Two months later the fronts settled to about 4 and the rear right was at 4 but the drivers side was still at 4.5. Anyhow later on i checked it again, the fronts have sagged some more down to 3.5 and the rears are still about same as they were before. Now i have not taken this rig offroading once so it doesnt get flexed. Saggy springs = lower or no lift. Their shocks started rusting in the first month. I mean the lift was a total disaster. The control arm bushings were crap (you wont get those with the 2" though so doesnt apply to you)

I It comes with a full year warranty so thats good, i called them and they supplied me brand new springs and control arm bushings blaming it on a bad batch of steel and rubber . As for the shocks.. i just threw those in the basement just in case if some one buys my new springs (the new ones they gave me) i'll give them out with the springs. I'm currently riding on OME shocks and could not be happier. The shocks they give you just simply suk. They are so stiff that when you hit a hole, your suspension does not flex like it should, it sends that entire side of the jeep in the air and flying jeep = 0 traction.

Simply there are way too many options out there at minor price differences to choose the crappiest lift on the market.
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Old 09-28-2008, 01:00 PM   #13
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Rough country stands for something.. its gonna be rough lol. Ride sucks as its rough but quality is the main problem here. I have the 4" lift kit. The 4" springs started off a bit taller. I installed them and got ~4.5" lift in the rear and just under 5 in the front. Two months later the fronts settled to about 4 and the rear right was at 4 but the drivers side was still at 4.5. Anyhow later on i checked it again, the fronts have sagged some more down to 3.5 and the rears are still about same as they were before. Now i have not taken this rig offroading once so it doesnt get flexed. Saggy springs = lower or no lift. Their shocks started rusting in the first month. I mean the lift was a total disaster. The control arm bushings were crap (you wont get those with the 2" though so doesnt apply to you)

I It comes with a full year warranty so thats good, i called them and they supplied me brand new springs and control arm bushings blaming it on a bad batch of steel and rubber . As for the shocks.. i just threw those in the basement just in case if some one buys my new springs (the new ones they gave me) i'll give them out with the springs. I'm currently riding on OME shocks and could not be happier. The shocks they give you just simply suk. They are so stiff that when you hit a hole, your suspension does not flex like it should, it sends that entire side of the jeep in the air and flying jeep = 0 traction.

Simply there are way too many options out there at minor price differences to choose the crappiest lift on the market.

Well, before you had time to reply I ordered the Rough Country. I'll install it for now. I'm sure one day I will go bigger and get rid of the old suspension. It's a "progression" spring so hopefully it will be different for my Jeep.

Also I ordered a new mount, they don't seem to have any in stock around here.
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i would return it and save the trouble while its still in boxes. I understand you're excited however you will be disappointed and you will hate riding in your jeep. You might be able to stay in there for a week and deal with the crappy ride however it will get annoying. I know i would have returned mine if i could however the major problems started showing few months later and they did not want to take them back.

The springs might be better however the shocks will still be the same crappy units i got.
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Old 09-28-2008, 06:25 PM   #15
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Well I got the new motor mount, turns out it was a plate that is separate from the rest, and can be adjusted slightly, I don't know why... but that is just the way it is. So I am just going to keep this one as a just-in-case situation.

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