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Old 08-03-2009, 09:56 AM   #1
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Has anybody ever wired in a kill switch for the battery as like an anti theft system? I work at a prison and they don't like the fact that I don't secure my jeep. Or does anybody have any other solution to my little delima?
I can't believe they let these guys ride motorcycles to work and then would be this Darn petty!!!!!

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Old 08-03-2009, 10:12 AM   #3
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I dont undestand why they care. Buy a $20 steering wheel club or something. Tell them thats all you can afford, out of your own pocket.
Is your job union?
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Here is the circuit to interface with. You do not have to use a magnetic switch and can use a regular hard switch Updated – TJ Theft Protection ADE/ADE-II w/Light Chaos - JeepsUnlimited.com Forums
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:40 AM   #5
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Practically with all alarms out there, they have a relay to disable the starter when it's armed.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:22 PM   #6
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Dead Switch to Starter

I'm looking to do the same thing only to the Starter Solenoid. Still will be installing a security system with motion sensor, with thieves today they can bypass most systems but with a dead switch hardwired in it will help. This is my first jeep and I want to keep it. Any thoughts on the idea?
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #7
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Don't secure your Jeep? Why, because the top's off? Do you leave it with the keys in it? Do they think the zip out windows would be some kind of theft deterrent? This whole situation is goofy! If I was trying to do something illegal, the last thing I'd do would be to drive away in an attention getting convertible.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:47 PM   #8
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im more worried about people stealing my flashlight, hatchet, or fire ext. that i have attached to my roll bars. i worry about it all the time.

Screw having to disconnect the battery everytime i park it, i know its a simple switch but you would have to re program your radio stations, clock, etc. everytime you switch it back on

Who knows maybe if it sits long enough it'll reset your ECM...........
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:13 PM   #9
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I've got a simple hardwired switch that is inside my Tuffy center console. The wire you need to cut is the yellow one in the harness behind the kickplate and steering column. I cut it, ran quality wiring, and then ran wiring back to reconnect it. Works like a charm.

Plus, with it being inside the Tuffy console, I can lock that. Makes it hard for a thief when there isn't any flow through the ignitiion switch.

I thought about going through the fuel pump, but didn't want somebody trying to crank the jeep with the fuel line shut off.
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thanley. I was wondering if you could send me some more info on how to do that. I have a 06 wrangler. I have thought about wiring a switch up but didnt know how. So any info or pics would be great. Thanks
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I've got a simple hardwired switch that is inside my Tuffy center console. The wire you need to cut is the yellow one in the harness behind the kickplate and steering column. I cut it, ran quality wiring, and then ran wiring back to reconnect it. Works like a charm.

Plus, with it being inside the Tuffy console, I can lock that. Makes it hard for a thief when there isn't any flow through the ignitiion switch.

I thought about going through the fuel pump, but didn't want somebody trying to crank the jeep with the fuel line shut off.
That sounds exacly like what I wanted to do as well. Can you get some pics posted of the wire location and your full setup?
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Old 08-06-2009, 08:24 AM   #12
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Pull the ASD relay located in the PDC box under the hood - that will keep it from going anywhere. But, first install a hood lock, so some smart a** with the right relay can't replace it and drive off. Then, get with a good body repair shop to fix the dents caused by the P.O.'ed would-be escapee when he can't leave in your ride.

Sound crazy? Ya - I'd be more concerned about the kid down the street than some prisoner making a get-away. Does your management have anything better to do?
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It occurs to me that if the management at the prison is concerned about escaped prisoners making a get-away in your Jeep, maybe they should focus on keeping the prisoners inside the prison in the first place. That seems like the bigger security issue.
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By "escaped prisoners" are they really referring to the guards and employees?
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It occurs to me that if the management at the prison is concerned about escaped prisoners making a get-away in your Jeep, maybe they should focus on keeping the prisoners inside the prison in the first place. That seems like the bigger security issue.
That's probably exactly what they're worried about.

However,
I don't think someone that just broke out of prison
is going to stick around and try to steal a vehicle
from the employee parking lot.


You might consider a Viper Ignition Kill.
That's what I use.
IF a convict were to try and steal your Rig in a mad hurry,
they wouldn't be able to do it with this feature.

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Old 01-08-2010, 10:08 AM   #16
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I simply removed the start relay and wired two male spades from start position to a simple $2.00 horn push button and hid it on the passenger side under dash.
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wow, all of you sure do have a lot of security for your jeeps. i live in a place where people just dont steal so i guess i dont have that problem. but i suppose if i looked out the window and someone was rooting around in Sally, my TJ i would have to break out last years christmas present:

mine actually has a smaller scope, and a different foregrip but if the pressure sensitive flashlight and laser dont alert them im sure 25 rounds of .22 in their butt will. ha ha ha
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Old 01-08-2010, 11:34 AM   #18
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you guys are too sofistacated, hook up a toggle to the power lead going to the coil/ignition switch/starter fuse

or something like that and wire and hide/ mount it up under your gove box

if you use flex loom and make it look factory for the untrained eye, they will never be aboe to find it

total costs about $10 ~ $15 <--- wire, loom and switch
if you dont already have them laying around
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There was an AZ on a local forum who was selling some BMW remote disconnect relays that worked perfect for kill switches. He says that BWM ships a lot of their cars with these so the battery isn't drained. Might wanna hit up your local Bimmer dealer to see if they have any that came off new models that just came it.

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Old 01-08-2010, 02:00 PM   #20
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Why get complicated?
Put a switch in the wire from the fuel pump relay to the pump.
Label the switch "Driving lights."

It'll crank but won't start. That will give time for the guards to finish their TV show and come out to catch the guy.
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Practically with all alarms out there, they have a relay to disable the starter when it's armed.
Go to a local car audio store and ask to either buy or give you(if you are nice enough when you ask) a starter interrupt harness and relay from an audiovox or Viper alarm system. Trust me, they have TONS of them laying around. Cut your starter wire and install the white wire to the starter side, the red wire to the key side, the orange wire to a grounded hidden switch under the dash. Less than $10 in parts and an hour worth of labor will get you going.
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wire killswitch to starter its simple and safe, dont wire to battery that involves heavier guage wiring and everytime you engage the switch all your stations will be reset and what not....
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wow, all of you sure do have a lot of security for your jeeps. i live in a place where people just dont steal so i guess i dont have that problem. but i suppose if i looked out the window and someone was rooting around in Sally, my TJ i would have to break out last years christmas present:

mine actually has a smaller scope, and a different foregrip but if the pressure sensitive flashlight and laser dont alert them im sure 25 rounds of .22 in their butt will. ha ha ha
That's the ticket!!! Blap, blap, blap blap (21 more times). Awesome.

Anyway, a prison isn't a safe place for an emplyee to leave their vehicle? Really? It's not like you're working with criminals, or something. Is it for protection against the inmates or fellow emplyees? What do the motorcycling Jo's do? Do they take the front wheel off their bikes and chain them to the bike rack?
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Just lie and tell them you have a starter kill switch mounted underneath your seat or something...they have no right to search your vehicle so they'll never know.
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theyre not requiring him, they just dont like that he doenst have one
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:29 PM   #26
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Oh - they want a "KILL" switch.

You can get a big solenoid that will drive a big spike up through the seat, impaling them from their a...
Put the switch on/off switch in an obvious place, label it "KILL SWITCH."

You might even let the Warden test it.

C4 would work too, but it might hurt the Jeep.
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I had a friend who was an HVAC technician...and he ran refrigerant lines to each of the 4 doors in his vehicle, placing nozzles in 1 or 2 locations above each door. Those lines were then hooked to a cylinder of refrigerant, not sure what kind of refrigerant it was...but they were then wired to his door locks. Due to having young children, as far as I know he never put it into use...he wanted to make sure there were safeguards in place to prevent it from accidentally discharging on one of the kids...and as far as I know, he never perfected it enough that he felt they were safe with it. Anyway... had he utilized that system, what would have happened was if a thief were to manually pop the locks, even if the alarm wasn't set, the system would activate and would release the liquid refrigerant into the lines at a high pressure. When it went through the nozzles, it would suddenly drop in pressure and cause it to flash into a gas...displacing all of the oxygen in the vehicle. So even if they were able to handle the pain of the refrigerant flash freezing their skin in the door openings, they would suffocate if they didn't exit the vehicle immediately.

He also utilized something some of you guys would probably enjoy...I'm not sure exactly what it killed, starter perhaps? But he had a touch switch hidden within reach of the driver's seat (he never told us exactly where due to not wanting some idiot from near him trying to steal his truck)...it was a touch sensor. In order to start his truck, he had to be touching that sensor. Once it was running, he could let off the sensor and it would stay running. It probably acted just as a push button switch and was a starter kill switch...but I don't remember. He liked that over a standard on/off switch because he never had to worry about forgetting to flip the switch when he exited the truck. He also wired up a bypass switch on the same circuit so that if he let somebody borrow the truck or had it in the shop, he wouldn't have to let them know where the kill switch was located. He just flipped the bypass switch and all worked like normal.
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Here is the circuit to interface with. Updated – TJ Theft Protection ADE/ADE-II w/Light Chaos - JeepsUnlimited.com Forums The magnetic switch is interesting but I just installed a regular switch. Actually I have two switches, one in the front and one in the rear. If either flipped, it will not start.
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Here is the circuit to interface with. Updated – TJ Theft Protection ADE/ADE-II w/Light Chaos - JeepsUnlimited.com Forums The magnetic switch is interesting but I just installed a regular switch. Actually I have two switches, one in the front and one in the rear. If either flipped, it will not start.
Sorry to dredge up an old thread, but I have a question about this. I want to do the above system, but using a regular on/off switch instead of the reed switch. Since the magnetic reed switch in the above link is only momentarily activated, would I have to wire a basic on/off switch (that stays in whatever position you put it in) differently?

The quote below is from the thread linked above (hope that's ok with the mods), and I think that is what is confusing me:

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"The DPDT relay is wired in both parallel and series to the reed switch and the Jeep’s critical circuits. This creates a self-latching circuit that allows the DPDT Relay “Coil” to be maintained in the active state once the relay has been tripped by swiping the magnet over the reed switch. (Once activated, the reed switch is no longer in the circuit.)"
The way I read this, is it doesn't matter what kind of switch I use, because once the relay is tripped, the switch is out of the circuit. Is this correct?

Just want to make sure I completely understand it before I go cutting into wires. Thanks in advance!

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