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Old 03-30-2007, 09:05 PM   #1
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LED tail lights and backup lights are done.

Finally...

I don't think I'll have a problem seeing when I backup at night anymore.

Sorry for the crappy camera phone pics, but it was getting late and I was lazy.




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Ok, I went and took some more crappy pics. What can I say, I'm bored....





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hook us up with some daylight pics....what mods did you have to do to make the led's fit. im looking at the one kit on quadratec but dont wanna spend that kind of cash. any insite would be nice.
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btw, the leds look good, from what I can see.
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Yeah my camera phone really doesn't do too well at night. I'll get some pics tomorrow during the day.

Here's what I did.

Bought Superlites SL4000 LED tail lights and flanges. Got two resistors from Radio Shack, because I knew there was an issue with TJs and their flasher and I didn't want to have to wire these things twice. I Bought a cheap set of driving lights from Walmart and a tube of RTV. I also got a pair of Lite N Boltz.

I removed the old tail lights and then used the flange as a template to make the holes. I used my dremel to cut the sheet metal. On the driver's side I cut the end off the stock wiring harness. I drilled two new holes to mount the license plate where it would clear my tailgate. Then I wired in the LED's with the resistors, coating with Hi Temp RTV, along with the Lite N Boltz. I wired the backup lights with an in-line fuse right to the backup light wire in the old wiring harness. For the grounds I used the ground on the driver's side for my firestick mount. On the passenger side I used the ground that I use for my trailer light harness near my hitch.

For the passenger side I cut the wiring harness off of the stock tail light and soldered together my new wiring harness, and then simply plugged it back in. This worked better because the wiring plug on the passenger side is down more towards the bottom of the tub.

Everything actually worked on the first try! I was surprised too. The tail lights have 15 LEDs a piece. They are very bright.

The LEDs:
http://www.allspectrum.com/store/pro...roducts_id=285

The Lite N Boltz I got from ebay.


This was the first time I have actually hacked big holes into my jeep. I kinda had a sick to my stomach feeling for the first hole, but then it got a lot easier. It's a practice run for when I install my crusher corners and tube fenders.
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Dang it! I believe that might just qualify as a write-up! Maybe one of our friendly staff could clean all the binary out of this thread and make it a "sticky" for a short time?

Good work BK.
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so preatty much its all like a kit or is it just the led lights and the red surrounding?
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so preatty much its all like a kit or is it just the led lights and the red surrounding?
It wasn't a kit. I bought all of the parts separately.
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Here's a better write up of this.

What you need to do this is:

1 Set of Lite N Boltz 19.95
I found mine on ebay.

2 Radio Shack RS# 271-0120 8 Ohm 20 Watt Power Resistors
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2062288&cp 2.29x2

2 Superlite SL4000 4" LED Stop/Tail/Turn Lights w/ flanges 24.99x2
http://www.buytruckstuff.com/product...ry=2&p_gpID=40

1 Cheap Pair of driving lights or fog lights CHEAP

1 Tube Hi Temp RTV Silicon FREE (already in garage)

Drill
Rat Tail File

Steps

1. On the LED wiring harness, add your resistor by soldering it to both the Red and white wires. Attach about half way down each wire so that the bare ends are still open. Do this for both lights. Use solder and cover any showing wires on the resistor with the RTV. Put aside to dry.
2. Remove your old tail lights.
3. Place duct tape over the area to be cut. Use one of the flanges as a template, mark the area. Cut your holes. Use the rat tail file to file down any sharp edges so you don't slice yourself open later.
4. Remove your license plate bracket. Size up your plate and mark the area for the new holes. You will have to move it to clear your tailgate. Drill your holes.
5. Cut the wiring off of both old tail lights so your have bare wires on one end and the connector plug on the other.
6. Mount your license plate with the Lite N Boltz. Run the wires up and out of your new brake light hole. Let them hang for now.
7. Now grab your new wiring harness with the resistors installed and wire it up to the old wiring harness that you cut off the old tail lights.

Driver's Side Wiring
Black/Yellow = Tail Light
Purple/Black = Backup lights
Green/Red = Stop and Turn

Passenger side is the same except that the Stop and Turn is Brown/Red

8. On the driver's side, splice the red wires (+) on the Lite N Boltz into the Tail Light wire(Black/Yellow) on the modified harness. Run black to a ground.
9.Run the white wire on the NEW harness to a ground and plug in the new modified harness to the old connector.
10. If you're installing backup lights as well at this time, run the power wire for the backups to the Purple/Black wire on the wiring harness.
11. Put the LED's into the flanges, plug them into the harness, and slide them into the holes. Use sheetmetal screws to hold everything in place. You're done. Woot!

Solder all connections and wrap them in electrical tape just to be safe.


***Note, 2003+ TJ's will have to relocate the evap canister on the driver's side by the tail light in order to make the hole.

Other things to keep in mind:
Making the holes too small at first is better than making them too large.
Make sure you aren't going to cut into anything you don't want to, before you start to cut.
Putting duct tape over the area you are going to cut or drill into leaves less chance that the saw will slip and scratch your Jeep.
Painting the open metal of the fresh holes with clear coat is a good way to keep rust away.
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so the whole project ends up being like 80 bucks?

another thing i've heard is dont the resistors get really hot and burn up the wires around them?
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so the whole project ends up being like 80 bucks?

another thing i've heard is dont the resistors get really hot and burn up the wires around them?
Yup, about 80 sounds right.

The resistors will get hot, that's why you coat them with hi temp RTV.
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Yup, I read that one before I ordered. I did a couple things differently when I did mine and added some info I couldn't find.
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basically something .. that i'm confused with.. there are 4 wires for the stock lights right?

Ground..Ground lol,
+ for when you press the brakes,
+ for when the headlights are on (dim taillights),
+ for the blinkers

(and + for the reverse lights but thats seperate)

Is this correct?

Now there are only 3 wires on the LEDs...
Ground
+ for low light
+ for high light
right?

So what do i do with the blinkers? do i just wire the brake lights and the blinkers together or what?

My question is how does the wiring go?
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Backup lights are separate, I believe...
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There are only three wires on the stock harness. Flasher/Tail Light/Backup Light. There is no ground on the stock harness. On the new LEDs there are 3 wires. Ground/Flasher/Tail

White goes to ground
Red Goes to the Flasher
Black goes to the Tail

There are no backup lights on the new LEDs, which is why I had to wire a separate pair.
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so the brake lights and the blinkers are the same light bulb? Id give it a shot now but its hard to press on the brakes and look how they light up at the same time
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so the brake lights and the blinkers are the same light bulb? Id give it a shot now but its hard to press on the brakes and look how they light up at the same time
Yup.

Driver's Side
Black/Yellow = Tail Light (Goes to Black Wire on the LED) This comes on when you turn on your Headlights.
Purple/Black = Backup lights (Goes to power on backup lights) Comes on when u go into Reverse
Green/Red = Stop and Turn (Goes to Red wire on LED) Comes on when you either hit the blinker or hit the brakes.

Passenger side
Stop and Turn is Brown/Red and goes to Red wire on LED.

The white wire on the LEDs is a ground. Find a spot on the tub or bumper where you can ground it out on a bolt. You can also use this as a ground for your backup lights and Lite N Boltz.
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Sweet Thanks a lot when i get some cash ill get some tails and give it a shot
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Here are some before and after shots. I got one in the daylight this time.



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