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Old 05-11-2013, 09:15 PM   #31
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Mine cut my 3rd brake light off with a sawzall -_-

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Old 05-11-2013, 09:30 PM   #32
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PO of my 98 tj (now gone) put a nissan tsuru moffler on it WITH 1inch exhaust tube xD.

And PO of my 06(current) bought the jeep to use it as a weekend warrior. He never used because it was looking for some more storage so he bought a toyota pick up and left the jeep abandon for 8 months hahahaha and he did put some metal chromed trims now gone.

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Old 05-11-2013, 09:43 PM   #33
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The PO of mine kept in in the garage, serviced it regularly and thoroughly, drove it almost entirely only to work and back on a short section of interstate, and did absolutely no modifications to it whatsoever.
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The PO of mine kept in in the garage, serviced it regularly and thoroughly, drove it almost entirely only to work and back on a short section of interstate, and did absolutely no modifications to it whatsoever.
how terrible..... glad you rescued that Jeep.
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the PO of my 2000 sahara broke off three of the four upper rear shock bolts.instead of fixing properly he dolled new holes on the sides of the nuts to drop down new bolts.
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my 02 has a bunch of bolts missing....like holding the extended flares on...only 3/4 of the bolts are there....there's a bolt missing from the glovebox area.....one missing from holding the tail gate on....all were missing from holding the hardtop down.

I am in the process of finding the missing ones and replacing....maybe weight savings was the motivations of PO
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the PO of my 2000 sahara broke off three of the four upper rear shock bolts.instead of fixing properly he dolled new holes on the sides of the nuts to drop down new bolts.

hey mine too. ill have to write about it when i get home.
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Wow, the real question is where to start. On my TJ the PO installed a pair of shocks from the LCA mounts to the axle, horizontally.


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If anyone has a logical explanation for these I'm all ears. They have been removed.
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That's where he kept the spare shocks...
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The PO of mine kept in in the garage, serviced it regularly and thoroughly, drove it almost entirely only to work and back on a short section of interstate, and did absolutely no modifications to it whatsoever.
Mine too. Its a '98 with right at 40k on her now. Little old man in a small town. He literally drove it to and from the grocery store and church.

...the bad news is that I now have more $$$ into her than I bought her for with several things to go. The upside to that is alot of .
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Mine apparently liked drilling unnecessary holes in the tub and screwing things down. I've got several 3/8" holes in the tub from some useless step bars... the U-shaped ones that hang about 10" down from the rockers and distort the sheet metal if a full-grown adult actually uses them. One of those had already been torn off and the other was removed immediately upon purchase. A couple of 1/4" holes where a CB antenna must have been mounted just above the tailgate hinge. Also, the carpet was glued to the floor and screwed down in several places with self-tapping sheet metal screws.
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Mine apparently liked drilling unnecessary holes in the tub and screwing things down. I've got several 3/8" holes in the tub from some useless step bars... the U-shaped ones that hang about 10" down from the rockers and distort the sheet metal if a full-grown adult actually uses them. One of those had already been torn off and the other was removed immediately upon purchase. A couple of 1/4" holes where a CB antenna must have been mounted just above the tailgate hinge. Also, the carpet was glued to the floor and screwed down in several places with self-tapping sheet metal screws.
Eww awful!!
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Wow, the real question is where to start. On my TJ the PO installed a pair of shocks from the LCA mounts to the axle, horizontally.


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If anyone has a logical explanation for these I'm all ears. They have been removed.
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There is no logical explaination for that. none.

I can guess that he was trying to make a 'kicker shock' to control axle wrap....which does not happen on a TJ.
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There is no logical explaination for that. none.

I can guess that he was trying to make a 'kicker shock' to control axle wrap....which does not happen on a TJ.
Ex platoon is your PO is an idiot lol
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My PO allowed never cleaned out the frame, and just painted over rust spots. I'm about three parts the way through dealing with the issues he/she caused by their neglect....
They even welded 3/4" plate over the frame where it had begun to rot out.... nothing like hiding from a problem.
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My PO drilled a hole through the windshield frame for lights. Just one, he then ran wire to the other light across the jeep right below the windshield.
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I'd like to bring this back:

Never flushed radiator. Inside of it looks like mud and is now leaking
Did I mention he got the eBay special radiator?

Drilled a light bar INTO the windshield frame and never put lights on it

Cut the stock fog lights for some HIDs cause the fog light bulbs were burnt out.

Regeared the rear axle but not the front

Blew the tc cause he had angry sparrows but ignored it

3/4 bolts holding the rear driveshaft on

Spent $160 on floor mats, but wouldn't spend $160 on a radiator.

I could go on and on
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TWENTY REASONS I WANT TO DRIVE BACK TO ARKANSAS TO BEAT MY TJ'S PO WITH A STICK

1. Rear window zipper off track on the last six inches - held shut with staples.

2. Never once changed coolant. Switched types that were incompatible. Used only very hard tap water. I had to replace fan clutch, water pump, thermostat, thermostat housing, hoses, L-shaped iron pipe going into water pump, heater core, radiator and cap; in other words, the entire cooling system. Now it runs just below the 210║ mark even on days over 105║ with high humidity.

3. He tore open the upper shift boot to stuff wires down there and in the process broke tabs off the plastic retainer for the boot. This left a gaping hole in the boot AND left it floating loose. Bit hole. Lots of heat.

4. He cut a three inch slash in the lower shift boot and installed some craptacular, blingy, ricer-boi LEDs all over the damned floor, under the dash, and along the top edges of the tub beneath the edges (64 lights!) and ran all the wires into the center console from beneath the front and rear edges.

He never thought about trimming out the excess length from this bundle of 64 fine, black wires. So this bundle was taped together with gobs of black electrical tape into a harness of sorts that was another ten feet long.

This was rolled up and KNOTTED over itself, then paired down into a single, fat strand connected to (brace yourselves) a 12 volt cigarette lighter PHONE CHARGER.

(It gets even better at this point.)

This gob of wires was rolled up and squashed into the void between the shifter and the plastic center console over the sliced lower shift boot, where the phone charger was poked through and zip-tied to the TC lever linkage rod. WTH?

So it simply hung out there, swinging in the breeze. When I found it I was simply stunned.

What on God's green Earth was this supposed to do or to be hooked to?

The heat coming up from the torn boots was terrible.

I first replaced the upper rubber boot and the retainer, which drastically improved my ride comfort. Then I removed all the tiny LEDs and the wiring. Then I cut off the phone charger and pulled the wires back up through the sliced lower shift boot. I still have to patch the lower boot.

What a numbskull this clown must be...

5. Put on cheap, Chinese bumpers. I believe the rear was a Smittybilt with swingaway carrier. It had a Pro Comp XTerrain 33x12.5R15 on a 15x10 MT Classic Lock rim. It was far too heavy for this cheap carrier, which had bent about 8║ so that the tire was hanging off the back precariously. He bumped into stuff with his bumpers enough that all the bolts were bent and not removable. I had to snap off all the heads and have a welder cut out the bent stems, and then re-tap the threads so I could use them for new bumpers.

6. He removed the stock fogs because they are too large to fit on the Smitty stubby front bull bar. He did not simply disconnect them. He did not bother to look underneath to see the connectors. Instead, he opened up the fogs and disconnected the wires from the lights and pulled the rubber plug, removing all the wiring. This he covered up in more gobs of electrical tape, then rolled it all up and stuck it in plastic baggies, which he duct taped to the undersides of the fenders. Boy, was I surprised to find those bags...

7. He stuck Velcro strips all over the interior (to hold all his righteous off-road gear, no doubt). I cannot get these off and they are everywhere.

8. He pulled his sub from the console. I mean he pulled it through the console, breaking off the cover and ruining it. He also removed the lock cylinder.

9. He installed an unneeded extra steering stabilizer. This TJ has no wobble of any sort. But it came with two Skyjacker stabilizers. One was the correct part and was mounted properly to the drag link, etc. The other was not a Jeep part at all, but for some other application. It was held in place with U bolts, connecting to the Track bar and the tie rod. It did not work anyway. It had been crushed and was empty of any fluids it may once have contained. Even better, this scumbag rotated the crushed part of the housing to the rear and then spray painted the rusty thing white.

10. None of the four shocks contain any fluid. None. They worked like trombone slides when I removed them. Amazing. No wonder it rode like a covered wagon when I got it.

11. He cut his tags off his lift springs. I have no idea who made them, nor do I know what they should have been doing when new. I can only assume that they are shot and sagging, but the TJ sits level and high up, so who really knows?

12. He never once cleaned it. It has dirt buried beneath layers of newer dirt that is probably from Old Testement times. I have to wash anything I am about to work on to make it less unpleasant. I pulled the burnt out AC blower resistor pack to replace it with a shiny, new one. It was covered in sandy dirt. C O V E R E D.

13. The AC blower motor had to be pulled and vacuumed out. Amazing.

14. He installed a four wire trailer harness but there is no evidence of there ever having been a trailer hitch installed.

15. None of my exterior lights were screwed in. All of them - ALL OF THEM - had been stripped out. So he put the screws in for show and silicone-gelled all of them to the tub and flares. This took forever to correct. I had to get all new ones and slightly larger self-tapping screws to make due. This was amazing to me.

16. He Herculined the tub but never removed anything. He Herculined over stuff. He Herculined over all the rubber floor plugs, the contacts to the 3rd brake light (so that it did not work), the bottom edges of all the seatbelts, the floor brackets of the seats, the crap is everywhere. But it is peeling everywhere, too. Also, this bag of hammers used so much that he ran out. There is no liner in the drivers floor well. None.

17. He put a (cheapo) CAI in incorrectly and the tube to the TB was all gummed up with dirt and filter oil. It was an AIRAID, and the box that isolates the filter from the engine was missing, and the filter had burns and holes all over it. I jury-rigged it with a decently fitting K&N filter.

A few days later I got a free OEM box and tube off of craigslist and yanked that silly CAI out. Had to clean up the TB though. First time to pull and clean one of those for me. Yea, education.

18. This is a 2003 TJ and it had 144,000 miles on the odo when I got it. It had the ORIGINAL SPARK PLUGS. They were almost impossible to get out and they were spectacular looking! Wow! THANKS, PO!

19. There were no shoes in the rear drums. It was like stopping a school bus.

20. And finally - CAT PISS! It was all over the carpets. It had been sprayed with some crappy perfume-like stuff. But after a week the smell came back, and it was strong.

But it is a GREAT JEEP and I love it. Of course, I got a pretty good price, but so much of this had been hidden intentionally (like the spray paint on all the rusted, dented shocks and stabilizers) that I should not have purchased it.

But hey, again with the education bit. I learned more about my TJ and its systems in four months than I did in the decade of ownership I had with my other 2003. I am a fairy competent mechanic and own a buttload of new tools. So I am actually more fond of this deathtrap than the one I drove for ten years that I had the dealer do all the work on.

There are tradeoffs in everything, I guess...
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Oh, I cried and laughed reading Holton345's post. The best part was describing the shocks as trombones. I'm fortunate that the worst thing done to my TJ by the PO was it was never taken off road.
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Why would u buy this jeep,,didn't u look at it first. Wtf! I would have ran so as u seen the shit wiring jobs.
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Why would u buy this jeep,,didn't u look at it first. Wtf! I would have ran so as u seen the shit wiring jobs.
This guy loves his Jeep. Not everything we get in life is perfect. That is what makes Jeep special.
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My PO hid everything with a good layer of mud. Once I got it I took a pressure washer to it...then took it to the fab shop.
So I need new shocks, mine are either dented or leaking.
Control arms have NEVER been greased, they won't move...getting new ones.
Control arm mounts looks like some redneck fab job, fab shop said they'll work with them.
Rear trac bar mount is cracked, getting a new one.
NO fluids have ever been changed, rear diff was nasty.
Ujoints of course.
Brakes of course.
The fab shop said he'll let me know what else they find...hooray me!
Maybe sometime this year I'll actually get to take it offroad...I've had it for 2 months. Then we'll see what I break and need to fix. The fab shop is going to love me and my checkbook!
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I live in ohio. Found my tj in upper New York online. Hired a company to go check it out and make sure it was in proper condition. Well the company got back to me and said everything looked good. So I drove 9 hours with my GF to get it. I got there started it up took it around the block just to make sure it ran well. Got back to the guys house and paid him and left for home.

Well a couple hours into the drive I stop to get gas. Fill it up and get back in. I turn the key and every light in my dash is going nuts. So I was freaking out. I pop the hood and pull the oil dip stick and I'm not joking... It looked like the guy had never changed the oil since he had the jeep. It looked like thick chunky mud. Worst I've ever seen. Then I pop the radiator cap off. Bone dry. What the hell?!?!?

First off, what was wrong with the PO!? He doesn't deserve a jeep if he's gonna do that to it. Second, what exactly did the company I hire to check it out do? They obviously didn't check the fluids like they said they did.

Lesson learned. Next time I'm checking everything myself instead of just taking it around the block.
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Why would u buy this jeep,,didn't u look at it first. Wtf! I would have ran so as u seen the shit wiring jobs.
It had all been hidden intentionally by the small lot dealer. It was four hours from me, one way, and I frankly did not have enough time or money to go back. So I gutted it out and fixed stuff as I discovered it. It took me four months to find it all. Except for the cat piss. I found that in a few days...

Also, I had it checked by a Jeep dealership across town from this guy. It checked out as excellent by them. They lied to me outright. My dealership got my money back for me. It was like $90 for that inspection! And I trusted these wankers because they have nothing to do with the small dealer. Or so I believed. Whatever. This jeep needed some major work, but it runs very strong, 3.73s on 33x12.5R15 getting 17 mpg on the highway with about 180,000 on the odo right now. Runs cool and happily and has solid acceleration, even up long, steep hills. Love the thing...
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When I bought mine the PO said the driveline shimmy was from the new tires. Drove 70 miles. Got it home front u joint had 2 caps almost all the way out... Whew close one.
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The PO of my 03 TJ dropped it off at a well respected local shop to have a bunch of mechanical work done and never came back for it. After several months of failed contact attempts he got a mechanics lein and put it out front for sale. I'm friends with the owner so I stopped in to check it out.... bought it that day for a song.
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Yeper u bought it... hello your own fault for having blinders on
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Yeper u bought it... hello your own fault for having blinders on
Um, the wiring was easily removed. Sorry to disappoint your making fun of me. The jeep rocks. It just took some work.

Also, none of you naysayers considered asking me why I bought it, did you? There were strong reasons.

But poking fun is much easier, isn't it?


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