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Old 03-02-2010, 04:28 PM   #1
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let's talk lifts

hello there,

i'm sure you know i'm new to these forums and i'm a treeshade mechnic at best.

i really want to get 2-2.5 more inches of clearance on my jeep. here's my questions.

1. when you put a lift in do you have cut anything or do you just unbolt and swap in new parts?

2. i have dana 35c rear and i'm not sure what front, it's a 2000 wrnagler sport with a 4.0 sr8 6

3. what kit should i get?

4. what special tools do i need?

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You wont need to cut anything if you are only going 2-2.5 inches. if you are looking for a suspension lift you can go with a budget boost or a complete suspension lift...it all kind of depends on your budget. as far as special tools,they arent ABSOLUTELY necessary but they may make life easier and those would be spring compressors...if you dont feel like buying them you can probably find a place to rent them

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What are your goals, type of driving and price range?

You could do a 2" BB and 1.25" BL if money is an issue

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2.5" OME suspension, 1.25" BL, and 1" MML and call it a day.
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1) it depends on the kit. If you just want 2", then you should just be swapping out parts. You can either go cheap and get coil spacers(which are around $100) or you can get new springs along with some other goodies in a kit for around $500. Either one work just fine.

2) Dana 30 should be in the front.

3) completely up to you... just try to avoid Rough Country is what ive heard around here.

4) You might need some Star screw drivers, but if you have a basic tool set than you should be just fine. Socket and Allen wrenches for the most part.
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Spring compressors can be rented for close to free at places like Kragen. All they want is a deposit.
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1) it depends on the kit. If you just want 2", then you should just be swapping out parts. You can either go cheap and get coil spacers(which are around $100) or you can get new springs along with some other goodies in a kit for around $500. Either one work just fine.

2) Dana 30 should be in the front.

3) completely up to you... just try to avoid Rough Country is what ive heard around here.

4) You might need some Star screw drivers, but if you have a basic tool set than you should be just fine. Socket and Allen wrenches for the most part.
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my goal here is to get about 2 more inchs of clearance.

and from waht i read body lifts do you no good on the trail. this is something i want to do my self cause i like dorking around with my jeep but i don't have it in me to be cutting and rewelding stuff.

i looked at 2 inch suspention lifts and some of the ones i find are talking about spacers and don;t include shocks and that makes me think it's just a body lift.

but then i see stuff like Lift Kit, 2.5 Inch Suspension, Classic Red Skyjacker w/ Hydro Shocks*SJ-TJ251KCRH by the Jeep Specialists | Morris 4x4 Center
and that makes me wonder do i need new shocks and coil springs?

those are the questions i have,

also does anyone have a link to an awsome guide, do you have to take the front and rea brakes off and stuff like that to put a lift in.

from what i'm reading it says avarage time is 3-4 hours. with my learning curve that puts my project at 8-10 hours


oh yeah budjet i would say aroun 500-600 bucks
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the spacer lifts sometimes include shocks and sometimes dont...what they do is put a spacer above your stock spring like this.


a full suspension kit will replace stock springs with longer springs and they usually replace the lower control arms and shocks also.
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the spacer lifts sometimes include shocks and sometimes dont...what they do is put a spacer above your stock spring like this.


a full suspension kit will replace stock springs with longer springs and they usually replace the lower control arms and shocks also.
so is full suspention the way to go, another question this is going to sound stupid but it's the tire hieght that raises the differentuals <spelling gud> off the ground right. so if i want my diffs 2 inches higher i gotta get 2 inch bigger tires.
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actually i think if you wanted to raise your differential 2 inches higher you would have to buy tires 4 inches bigger
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actually i think if you wanted to raise your differential 2 inches higher you would have to buy tires 4 inches bigger
That's correct. (the axle is at the mid-point of the tire)

spacer lift vs. full suspension? It's money and personal preferance. Both achieve what you're after. The body lifts will get you more room in the wheel wells. I see lots of 2.5" suspension lifts with a 1" body lift. If you used spacers, we're talking 3.5" of lift for pretty cheap.

Personally I like new springs and shocks. But there is nothing wrong with spacer lifts IMO
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That's correct. (the axle is at the mid-point of the tire)

spacer lift vs. full suspension? It's money and personal preferance. Both achieve what you're after. The body lifts will get you more room in the wheel wells. I see lots of 2.5" suspension lifts with a 1" body lift. If you used spacers, we're talking 3.5" of lift for pretty cheap.

Personally I like new springs and shocks. But there is nothing wrong with spacer lifts IMO
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yeah i think i want new shocks and springs just cause of the look and the extra hieght.

what is all involved in putting in new springs and shocks?
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yeah i think i want new shocks and springs just cause of the look and the extra hieght.

what is all involved in putting in new springs and shocks?
That's it. Off with the old, on with the new. Depending on your Jeep, JK, TJ, XJ, etc. and the amount of lift you want, you'll have to start messing with track bars, transfer cases, SYE, etc to make up for extreme angles. With 2.5" and under in most cases, u just lift it and go. Since you're just shooting for 2-2.5, buy a lift you like and have fun. The small lifts are easy, like small upgrades in tires. The headaches show up with bigger lifts, and bigger tires.
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That's it. Off with the old, on with the new. Depending on your Jeep, JK, TJ, XJ, etc. and the amount of lift you want, you'll have to start messing with track bars, transfer cases, SYE, etc to make up for extreme angles. With 2.5" and under in most cases, u just lift it and go. Since you're just shooting for 2-2.5, buy a lift you like and have fun. The small lifts are easy, like small upgrades in tires. The headaches show up with bigger lifts, and bigger tires.
ya i have a 2.5" skyjacker lift on mine and it didnt require the transfer case to be lowered. it wasnt too bad of an install either. my buddy and i put it on in a couple of evenings. (we got a late start)
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That TC is hit and miss. I can't explain it. I've lifted alot of Jeeps, some get vibrations, some don't. No big deal if it's needed though.

On rare occasion with small lifts the shifter may not stay in gear if u have a 5 speed.
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I just finished installing a 2.5" suspension kit (OME). Install was not difficult just need lots of sockets and whatnot, a jack, and some jackstands.
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I just installed a rough country 2.5" lift with .75" coil spacers, was $416 with shipping. Install was pretty simple, and the ride is good enough for me. My jeeps my daily driver. I just put the lift on, so im not sure on the wear and tear, but everything needs fixed here and there, even stock....
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don't forget to set Toe after a lift.
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I am running the rc 2.5" springs with .75 spacer. I'm into the lift for $300. No t-case lowering kit needed. Also running procomp 3000 shocks, paid $125.00 for 4 shocks. Stock shocks will work for awhile, but won't allow much flex. Rides great, flexes awsome. Took 5 hours to put it all in.

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