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Old 07-08-2012, 05:18 PM   #61
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I used rough country 1.5" wheel spacers. They give you that wide bad look. Some guys will say they are bad and create excessive wear on surrounding parts but I had them on my old jeep, I had them on my chevy silverado for over 70000 miles and never had any troubles.
Im very glad you just told me about the 1.5" RC spacers, because soon i was going to buy another type of spacer, 1.5" for $100 a pair. Thanks! So that's the only reason your tires are out that far?

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Im very glad you just told me about the 1.5" RC spacers, because soon i was going to buy another type of spacer, 1.5" for $100 a pair. Thanks! So that's the only reason your tires are out that far?
Yeah buddy. I have cragar 15x8 wheels but they are 4" backspacing so they really don't offer a lot of extra width. It's all in the spacers. The tires are 33x12.5 so they are wider obviously. I had a 06 sport a few years ago with stock wheels and I put spacers on and it looked great! I was running 31x10.5 tires then I think. It was a nice looking jeep. I kind of miss it actually.
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Im very glad you just told me about the 1.5" RC spacers, because soon i was going to buy another type of spacer, 1.5" for $100 a pair. Thanks! So that's the only reason your tires are out that far?
I'll send ya a pic soon with some before and after shots. Spacers vs. No spacers. I don't have them on right now, took them off last week for inspection. Hahaha. I'm putting them on tomorrow or Tuesday.
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Old 07-09-2012, 05:51 AM   #65
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Yeah buddy. I have cragar 15x8 wheels but they are 4" backspacing so they really don't offer a lot of extra width. It's all in the spacers. The tires are 33x12.5 so they are wider obviously. I had a 06 sport a few years ago with stock wheels and I put spacers on and it looked great! I was running 31x10.5 tires then I think. It was a nice looking jeep. I kind of miss it actually.
Why in the world would you want any less back spacing then the 4" the rims offered. It is unnecessary and the addition of those spacers only add stress to the unit bearing. Yes, it's fine to run a spacer, but when you already have a 4" bs rim. That just makes no sense.
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Why in the world would you want any less back spacing then the 4" the rims offered. It is unnecessary and the addition of those spacers only add stress to the unit bearing. Yes, it's fine to run a spacer, but when you already have a 4" bs rim. That just makes no sense.
Correct me then if I'm wrong. I have cragar 15x8. When I measure from the inside of the rim where it seats against the hub to the lip its roughly 4 inches which would make the point where the rim seats against the hub pretty much center of the wheel. Am I right? So if the wheel had 3" of back spacing that would mean that the wheel would stick out an inch wider....right? Less back spacing....the wider it looks. The more back spacing the more the wheel hugs the vehicle
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Correct me then if I'm wrong. I have cragar 15x8. When I measure from the inside of the rim where it seats against the hub to the lip its roughly 4 inches which would make the point where the rim seats against the hub pretty much center of the wheel. Am I right? So if the wheel had 3" of back spacing that would mean that the wheel would stick out an inch wider....right? Less back spacing....the wider it looks. The more back spacing the more the wheel hugs the vehicle
That is exactly correct. Running less then 3.5" is unnecessary, hurts function, adds stress to your unit bearings, throws more $%!t on the side of your jeep, and looks stupid.
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That is exactly correct. Running less then 3.5" is unnecessary, hurts function, adds stress to your unit bearings, throws more $%!t on the side of your jeep, and looks stupid.
Well the 4" back spacing with the 33's rubbed arms at full turn, I put the spacers on, problem solved....and as I mentioned previously there are just as many guys that like spacers as there are guys that don't. I happen to like the wide stance. In fact I have the spacers off right now and my buddys and my wife say it looks stupid without them. I also enjoy cleaning the "$%!t" off of the jeep. I love plowing through mud, and I enjoy washing it off... I'm silly like that. I hope that anyone who puts any type of lift on with any type of oversize tire knows that from the day you install them, you have changed the original factory preferances, and you run the risk of extra wear and breakage.... That's why every after market part comes with a warning and sometimes a goofy sticker they want you to put on your vehicle. That also why many car insurance companies will not insure a modified vehicle...I like my wide look, I get complimented on it daily, I'm willing to risk replacment bearings and such....in fact it has 86000 miles on it...ill keep an eye out for that....anyways....good luck keeping the $%!t off your jeep... And someday when I'm on the side of a road with a front end laying on the ground....stop and give me a lift and you can even say I told you so. : ) and ill eat my words.
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People who like spacers use them with stock wheels. You could have fixed the tire rubbing the lca's by adding a couple washers to the steering stops. There is a reason no one uses a 2.5" bs wheels on a jeep.
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Yeah buddy. I have cragar 15x8 wheels but they are 4" backspacing so they really don't offer a lot of extra width. It's all in the spacers. The tires are 33x12.5 so they are wider obviously. I had a 06 sport a few years ago with stock wheels and I put spacers on and it looked great! I was running 31x10.5 tires then I think. It was a nice looking jeep. I kind of miss it actually.
Thanks! I'd appreciate that. What exactly does back spacing do? I'm looking to get Dick Cepek Mud Country 33x16x11. Not too bad, but so go an inch wider would be an extra $32 dollars a tire. Haha!
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Thanks! I'd appreciate that. What exactly does back spacing do? I'm looking to get Dick Cepek Mud Country 33x16x11. Not too bad, but so go an inch wider would be an extra $32 dollars a tire. Haha!
The amount of back spacing you have dictates how far the back of the rim and tire set in the wheel well. Optimal back spacing will allow the tire not to rub on anything at full lock, or full bump. This likely will require bump stop extension, and sometimes steering stop extension.

You don't want to see your tires hitting spring mounts, control arms, inner fenders, etc on the inside. And you don't want contact with fenders, or fender flares on the outside.
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I just bought a buddies 04 Rubicon, It came with a full Terraflex 4 inch short arm kit, skid plate on the diff's and pan. 33 inch tires on Moab wheels with 1.5 spacers. It also has an aftermarket rear bumper and tire carrier. All with only 60,000 on the clock. I got it for well within your 16,000 price and did not have to do a thing to it. It's done the rubicon twice and John bull. It does everything it is asked to do. So for me the answer was to find a finished product. Usually cheaper than making your own.
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What exactly does back spacing do?
Let me google that for you
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Thanks! I'd appreciate that. What exactly does back spacing do? I'm looking to get Dick Cepek Mud Country 33x16x11. Not too bad, but so go an inch wider would be an extra $32 dollars a tire. Haha!
Check this link out. It will help you find out about backspacing. It helped me out a lot when doing research. Also you can go to Google and search "wheel backspacing".
Also too, as you have just seen demonstrated in this thread, there are differing opinions on wheel spacers. So, do some research. Check the forums. Check YouTube. Decide for yourself if you want to go that route. Form your own opinion and let us all know what you decide to do.
http://www.4wheelparts.com/tire-whee...ckspacing.aspx
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Check this link out. It will help you find out about backspacing. It helped me out a lot when doing research. Also you can go to Google and search "wheel backspacing".
Also too, as you have just seen demonstrated in this thread, there are differing opinions on wheel spacers. So, do some research. Check the forums. Check YouTube. Decide for yourself if you want to go that route. Form your own opinion and let us all know what you decide to do.
Wheel Offset and Wheel Backspacing – 4 Wheel Parts Stores
I just read that article, and I'm a little confused about it. Can i just look up my wheel now and it tell me the back spacing? I probably will end up getting the wheel spacers that preston has, mainly because i've always wanted spacers, and these are great for a price. Gonna check youtube. Thanks Imped for the google.
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Can someone explain to me when Body Lifts do exactly. I understand it might just be lifts the frame, but what's the point?
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Can someone explain to me when Body Lifts do exactly. I understand it might just be lifts the frame, but what's the point?
A suspension lift lifts the frame, a body lift raises the body off the frame to allow for high clearance belly skids, or just a little extra room. About 1 1/4 inches is as high as you want to go with one ( just picture taller body mounts)
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A suspension lift lifts the frame, a body lift raises the body off the frame to allow for high clearance belly skids, or just a little extra room. About 1 1/4 inches is as high as you want to go with one ( just picture taller body mounts)
Alright, and i was watching a video on how to install them and it said you might want to get a motor mount lift to go with it... That doesn't sound too good, do i need it?
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The amount of back spacing you have dictates how far the back of the rim and tire set in the wheel well. Optimal back spacing will allow the tire not to rub on anything at full lock, or full bump. This likely will require bump stop extension, and sometimes steering stop extension.

You don't want to see your tires hitting spring mounts, control arms, inner fenders, etc on the inside. And you don't want contact with fenders, or fender flares on the outside.
So the smaller the number of backspacing, the better and the farther it will stick out?
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Alright, and i was watching a video on how to install them and it said you might want to get a motor mount lift to go with it... That doesn't sound too good, do i need it?
I've got a 1 inch body lift, no motor mount lift, but I will need one when I do my tummy tuck. Motor mount lifts are pretty simple to install though
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I've got a 1 inch body lift, no motor mount lift, but I will need one when I do my tummy tuck. Motor mount lifts are pretty simple to install though
I've seen a picture of a guy with a 3" suspension lift and 3" BL, I'll post link. What would you need for a 3" body lift? http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/1999-Je...Pictures-c2408
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No one needs a 3 inch body lift they cause a lot of headaches to deal with
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No one needs a 3 inch body lift they cause a lot of headaches to deal with
So, is a 2" reasonable? And what mods would i need to do?
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So the smaller the number of backspacing, the better and the farther it will stick out?
Yes the farther it will stick out, but not necessarily better as to little back spacing can cause issues as well.
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So, is a 2" reasonable? And what mods would i need to do?
No. A 1.25" body lift is the maximum most of us would suggest.
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So the smaller the number of backspacing, the better and the farther it will stick out?
Yep. Smaller the measurement the further out the tire will be from the wheel well.
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No. A 1.25" body lift is the maximum most of us would suggest.
Alrighty, and it doesn't seem that hard to install either. Thanks a lot!
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Yep. Smaller the measurement the further out the tire will be from the wheel well.
How do you estimate how much BS you have if not found or known?
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