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Old 03-24-2014, 06:16 PM   #1
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Lifting my Jeep...eventually

I'm looking at getting the Zone 4.25 combo kit. I've heard great things about it, and it's not too expensive along with the fact that it avoids the needs for an SYE or CV. I'm looking at:

Zone kit with standard shocks, quick discos, and the alignment cam kit ($610)

Rubicon Express adjustable track bar ($165)

5 Pro Comp series 7069 15x8 wheels ($560)

5 Mickey Thompson 33x12.5015LT Baja MTZ tires ($1,207).

For all of this, I'm only paying $60 for shipping and I'm getting the wheels and tires balanced for free. This makes it a total of about $2,600

Please give me your opinion on any or all of these pieces, whether or not this list is complete, and, just as important, whether or not this can be done cheaper. Is this just how much it takes to lift a Jeep properly, or am I going to be paying too much here?
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There are only three adjustable track bars worth getting IMHO. Currie, Metalcloak, or JKS. All others have clearance issues, weak parts, or both.

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Old 03-24-2014, 06:34 PM   #3
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There are only three adjustable track bars worth getting IMHO. Currie, Metalcloak, or JKS. All others have clearance issues, weak parts, or both.
Thanks. I'll definitely take a look into one of those. In your opinion, is everything else up to par?
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Thanks. I'll definitely take a look into one of those. In your opinion, is everything else up to par?
My son used the Zone combo and is very happy with it. Make sure the back space on the wheels you're getting is in around the 3.75-4.25 range. The metalcloak track bar is probaly the least expensive out of the three and one of the best for clearances, but I'm not sure what the turn around time is on it. You might want to give them a call, if you decide on that one.

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Old 03-24-2014, 06:46 PM   #5
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My son used the Zone combo and is very happy with it. Make sure the back space on the wheels you're getting is in around the 3.75-4.25 range. The metalcloak track bar is probaly the least expensive out of the three and one of the best for clearances, but I'm not sure what the turn around time is on it. You might want to give them a call, if you decide on that one. TJ/LJ Jeep Wrangler Solid Chromoly Front Track Bar
The wheels have a 3.75 backspacing. Thanks for your help!
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So, how does zone give you a 4.25" lift yet keeps you from getting a SYE?
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:17 PM   #7
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So, how does zone give you a 4.25" lift yet keeps you from getting a SYE?
Motor mount lift 1", and body lift 1.25". These counteract steep driveline angles, well the motor mount lift does.
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Motor mount lift 1", and body lift 1.25". These counteract steep driveline angles, well the motor mount lift does.
Interesting, and thanks! So, the actual suspension lift is basically 3" it would appear.
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Old 03-24-2014, 07:21 PM   #9
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Interesting, and thanks! So, the actual suspension lift is basically 3" it would appear.
Exactly. And at 3" you don't need an SYE or CV. Plus the body lift opens up options like a tummy tuck and gas tank lift, as well as gives me some decent height.
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I am also lifting my TJ. I'm going to buy the zone 4.25 with disconnects and I am also wondering about track bars. Should I get one? And what else would I need to have a complete lift
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I am also lifting my TJ. I'm going to buy the zone 4.25 with disconnects and I am also wondering about track bars. Should I get one? And what else would I need to have a complete lift
The biggest problem with a lot of these lifts IMO, is that they have you relocate the axle end of the front stock track bar by re-drilling a hole for it somewhere around 3/4" to closer to the driver's side. The problem with that is that you're drilling in an area that doesn't have a lot of extra metal to start with, and it's basically just a poor way to do it.

The kit is complete the way it is sold, and re-drilling the hole does work, but there are better alternatives, the best being to use an adjustable track bar so you can use the stock hole location. This also gives you some adjustment so you can get your axle perfectly centered. The second alternative is to re-drill the hole but weld a piece of steel over it and drill both making the bracket beefier.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:28 AM   #12
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So is this a realistic price tag for all these things? Is that what everyone pays for lifts like this? Or am I going to spend way more than necessary?
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U have the same jeep as me....omnisc
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Old 03-25-2014, 08:37 AM   #14
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So is this a realistic price tag for all these things? Is that what everyone pays for lifts like this? Or am I going to spend way more than necessary?
Seems about right. I'm running this set up and I like it. The shocks are a bit soft for off road but nice on the street. I went with the JKS track bar.
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So I'm thinking about getting the zone 4.25 since that's what everyone seems todo, I really like their work and it has a good reputation. My question is, will my track bars and sway bars have to be changed if I just put on the 3" suspension first and then the BL later? Also, my plan being to run 33's, my 99 SE 2.5l four banger should have enough ass to turn them with stock axles and gears for the time being right?
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What are you stock gears and just what are you planning on doing with your Jeep? Daily driver - s/b ok. Rock crawling, doubt it. Mud slinging, doubtful! Cruising gravel roads - s/b ok.
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What are you stock gears and just what are you planning on doing with your Jeep? Daily driver - s/b ok. Rock crawling, doubt it. Mud slinging, doubtful! Cruising gravel roads - s/b ok.
Whatever the stock gears are. I've looked on both diffs but the tags are gone, so I'm thinkin 3.73. I've tried to get spec sheets, but have been slacking on that lately. So if anyone knows what the gears are in a 99 SE with stock D30/35 axles let me know! I plan on it to be a weekend warrior. I live in Louisiana, so we don't have rocks to climb lol. Mud holes and dirt roads and sandy beaches
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I looked at this kit and the the DPG Offroad OME Ultimate kit. The one from DPG was more complete in my opinion with better parts added. I think the Zone 4.5 is good on a limited budget, but start adding in front and rear JKS or equivalent track bars, MML and BL, and your $$$ more than the DPG kit.

Just my .02.

Good luck with your setup, and post some pics when you get it done.

I'll be running the 33"x10.5"x15" BFG MT KM2's on my 05 LJ.
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Whatever the stock gears are. I've looked on both diffs but the tags are gone, so I'm thinkin 3.73. I've tried to get spec sheets, but have been slacking on that lately. So if anyone knows what the gears are in a 99 SE with stock D30/35 axles let me know! I plan on it to be a weekend warrior. I live in Louisiana, so we don't have rocks to climb lol. Mud holes and dirt roads and sandy beaches
I wasn't sure about the rocks but I knew you had MUD!!!! There is a way of checking by lifting the rear and spinning the tires, counting how many times the drive shaft rotated. I can remember the exact procedure but I am sure someone on here does.
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I looked at this kit and the the DPG Offroad OME Ultimate kit. The one from DPG was more complete in my opinion with better parts added. I think the Zone 4.5 is good on a limited budget, but start adding in front and rear JKS or equivalent track bars, MML and BL, and your $$$ more than the DPG kit. Just my .02. Good luck with your setup, and post some pics when you get it done. I'll be running the 33"x10.5"x15" BFG MT KM2's on my 05 LJ.
I'm interested in this kit. How much does it actually lift the jeep?
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I believe it is a 2" suspension lift with a 1.25" body lift. No need then for a SYE or DS. Should be able to run 33" tires with stock fenders. 35" tires with tube type fenders.
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I wasn't sure about the rocks but I knew you had MUD!!!! There is a way of checking by lifting the rear and spinning the tires, counting how many times the drive shaft rotated. I can remember the exact procedure but I am sure someone on here does.
Rotate 1 tire twice (or both tires once), and check how many times the driveshaft rotated. 3 3/4 is most likely 3.73, just over 4 = 4.10, you get the drift. Oh, and some spend a LOT more on lifts, sadly a majority is wasted $$$.

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Old 03-26-2014, 06:29 AM   #23
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So would it be better to go with standard or nitro shocks?
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So would it be better to go with standard or nitro shocks?
If you are talking about the DPG kit, it only comes with the Nitro Sport shocks now. When I talked to Dirk Monday evening, he said they discontinued the other shocks. He hadn't had time to update his website.

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