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Old 04-17-2011, 09:43 AM   #1
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I bought a 97 tj that has a 3" body lift on it. It is running 33" tires. I want to keep the 33" tires but not the 3" body lift. What will be the easiest way to get rid of the body lift and keep the 33"s. Also, easiest isn't always the cheapest. So, what would be the cheapest way to lose the 3" body lift and keep the 33"s? Thanks.

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Old 04-17-2011, 10:03 AM   #2
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2" coil spacers will let room for 33s with the lowest cost I think. or something cheep like a 2.5 inch rc lift.

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I've been looking into spring spacer lifts too. This solution definitely appears to be the simplest and most affordable The question that keeps coming up for me is, at what point do you have to start changing other parts too? Meaning, at what point do you have to worry about transfer case position, stabilizer end link lengths, steering components, transmission/transfer case linkage lengths, etc...??
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A 2" BB with a 1" BL will do you fine and it will be the cheapest route to go to fit 33s, but may rub a bit if you do some serious off roading.

As for Jeffedmo-Each Jeep is an individual beast. Some people run into problems when they barely lift their Jeep with a 2" BB although that is rare. It is pretty commonly known that once you step up to a 4" lift and above you start to run into other things that need to be upgraded. That being said some people put on a 4" lift and have no problems, but they would be in the minority.
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It appears to me that the majority of the lift kits come with what they need to get you going. As far as coil spacers, they can use stock shocks, swaybar ends and the drive shaft/trans is fine. I recently put a 4" lift on, that came with a bracket to move the transfer case shifter since I had to put the t-case drop on. Also came with controll arms, sway bar links and shocks, and rear track bar bracket. Lift has worked out fine so far with no issue
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So, what would be the cheapest way to lose the 3" body lift and keep the 33"s? Thanks.
cut the BL down to 1", buy new bolts at the hardware store. use grade 5.

then go over to Performance Accessories's website and buy two 2 in "Mini-Blocks" and two 2" "Big Blocks" to use as bumpstop extensions. buy new bolts at the hardware store to make these fit, use grade 5.

now get on craigslist, ebay or the forums and find the cheapest possible 2" BB pucks you can. I've seen em for free or under $50.

then buy the cheapest shocks you can find...Skyjacker Hydro's for 2" of lift would be a reasonable choice, and they're cheap.

That will give you a fairly crappy setup that will fit 33s for very cheap.
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ok, unlimited, I get your point. Lets rephrase: "cost-effective" instead of cheap.
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Old 04-17-2011, 01:00 PM   #8
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ok, unlimited, I get your point. Lets rephrase: "cost-effective" instead of cheap.
It all depends on what you want out of your rig. Unlimited is 100% correct in his response if all you want is to fit 33's. You are the only one to make that decision.
I am running 33's but went a totally different route. I also have more invested in my suspension than I do in my Wrangler.
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2" bb and 1" bl. This should save you from having to deal with a lot of the complexities (additional costs) associated with taller suspension lifts. And thank you for wanting to take another excessive bl off the street. Just keep in mind that you may find yourself having to get rid of other things when you take off the lift...shift linkage, mmls, gas filler tube etc.
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I won't do anything crazy off road. There is a better chance of me going into a mud hole I shouldn't than over a crawl I shouldn't.
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I've been looking into spring spacer lifts too. This solution definitely appears to be the simplest and most affordable The question that keeps coming up for me is, at what point do you have to start changing other parts too? Meaning, at what point do you have to worry about transfer case position, stabilizer end link lengths, steering components, transmission/transfer case linkage lengths, etc...??
Buy the JKS swaybar disconnects now, regardless. 1" BL and 2" spacers/shocks would work. Might need/want a motor mount lift, or preferably SYE/rear shaft, to address vibes and not drop your t'case.
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Buy the JKS swaybar disconnects now, regardless. 1" BL and 2" spacers/shocks would work. Might need/want a motor mount lift, or preferably SYE/rear shaft, to address vibes and not drop your t'case.
If I only do a 2" spring spacer lift with some new shocks, are the chances pretty good that I won't have to worry about any of the other stuff?
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More than likely u will be fine without all of the other stuff. The problem is that all jeeps are slightly different because of tolerances at the factory. Sometimes u don't know until u put it on. My lj actually lost some driveline vibes when I put my bb on.
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Lets see if I've got this figured out...

to still fit the 33's

I can turn my current 3" body lift into a 1" by removing pucks and using shorter bolts and then add a 2" budget boost similar to a Trail Master kit that includes urethane coil spacers and bumpstops. Does this sound ok?

Should I be able to use stock shocks with this setup?
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I would get new ones as u are lifting the suspension now and stocks may not have enough travel.
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You can keep your stock shocks for now if you are strapped for cash, although this will not be a permanent solution. Or just save up for a while for something that is going to be good like OME shocks.
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But other than the shocks everything else sounds ok
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Ok so you have a 97 wrangler with most likely tired springs and shocks! It's time to change the springs and shocks! Save a little cash and buy some ome 2.5 springs and shocks. Then cut the lift blocks down to a 1.25 block buy new grade 5 bolts as stated above and have a better riding and better built suspension.
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The reason I am asking about stock shocks is because I replaced them as soon as I got the jeep, before I was familiar with anything about all of this lift stuff, and hate to see all that money go down the drain.
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I am running 33's but went a totally different route. I also have more invested in my suspension than I do in my Wrangler.
me too I wanted my rig to actually work

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ok, unlimited, I get your point. Lets rephrase: "cost-effective" instead of cheap.
Well define "cost-effective". I think my Jeep was pretty cost effective...the Rokmen front upper control arms were a bit unnecessary, but otherwise the rest was done quite cost-effectively...and everything works with 33s.

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I won't do anything crazy off road. There is a better chance of me going into a mud hole I shouldn't than over a crawl I shouldn't.
well, I don't do crazy off-roading either...but then again maybe our definitions of crazy are different. what type of wheeling you do doesn't have a big impact on some of the basics of a 2" lift.

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If I only do a 2" spring spacer lift with some new shocks, are the chances pretty good that I won't have to worry about any of the other stuff?
no. you'll still need to worry about bumpstop extensions, and vibes. some get vibes with 2" spacer lifts, some don't. Most start to get vibes around 2.5" or so.

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Lets see if I've got this figured out...

to still fit the 33's

I can turn my current 3" body lift into a 1" by removing pucks and using shorter bolts and then add a 2" budget boost similar to a Trail Master kit that includes urethane coil spacers and bumpstops. Does this sound ok?

Should I be able to use stock shocks with this setup?
To turn the current 3" BL into a 1", you'll need to remove each puck and cut it down to 1" using a saw or something, portable bandsaw and a vise would probably be easiest.

Using the stock shocks is doable for a short period of time. They will blow out from overextending too much after a while.

When you get a 2" BB, if thats the route you choose, make sure to get one with real bumpstop extensions...not the Daystar poly jounce bumper replacements that are actually good for nothing. Thats why I suggested performance accessories body lift spacers. heck if you're creative, you might be able to use the scrap 2" piece you cut off your BL.

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