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Old 09-24-2012, 03:15 PM   #1
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LJ or TJ for me?

Used to think the LJ's look down right strange bc of the longer wb.. But I am starting to come around to them! Looked up some pics of some LJ's with tires and lifts and they look good!! I just don't care for them in their stock form. That being said, I want y'all's opinions on the LJ vs TJ. HOW DOES THE LONGER WB AFFECT THE JEEP WHEN YOU LIFT IT? Drive lines and such???

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Old 09-24-2012, 03:19 PM   #2
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LJ hands down. I'm biased though.

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Old 09-24-2012, 03:22 PM   #3
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Why?!? I want stories that will help me choose one over the other
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Old 09-24-2012, 03:43 PM   #4
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Why, well I wanted the extra room for one thing. Really comes in handy when you need to pick up things from the store. Haven't raised mine yet as I've only had it for about two weeks. Just purchased it from a used dealership for $16k with 62k miles auto transmission. The thing I like most about the LJ is that it comes with the 6 cylinder obviously and one dana44 axel. Mine also has the front and rear lockers and 2 Dana 44 axels since its the Rubicon model. The LJ is a good way to go if you want more room and better stock options than a regular TJ. It provides a better base for when you start the mods. Of course I'm kind of new to all this so an experienced LJ jeeper will have more stories about why he/she prefers it over a TJ. Hope that helps!
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Old 09-24-2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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That black Jeep above looks great. A tj looks better


http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tj-vs-lj-182341.html
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #7
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Anyone know the WB of these three jeeps...

TJ
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JK 2 door

I could look it up but I'm lazy.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:18 PM   #8
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I would have got an LJ if I had the money when I was 16 and bought my jeep. On my camping trips, I wish I had got an LJ. Throw some 35s under it, and it would be my perfect jeep!
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:27 PM   #9
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Tj all day shorter wheel base is better for trees and for crawling but I don't need a lot of room in my back seat and manual is the way to go here's a pic of mine Dana 30 w/ locker in front d44 w/ locker in rear 35's pic is kinda dark
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Old 09-24-2012, 08:34 PM   #10
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LJ for sure. The ride alone is worth the extra bux. It rides sooo much better than a TJ, even my dad and friends comment on it (they drive TJs).
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:00 PM   #11
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I have two kids now. Wish I would have sprung for the LJ. Now I'm putting together a safari rack for kid stuff!
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Unlimited's come with a standard correct? Or just automatic? I am starting to lean toward the LJ's bc they look good sitting up on 33's
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:23 PM   #13
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I have never owned a TJ but own an LJ.. I bought it for the additional space.
I did take out the back seat and now its like having a mini pickup. LJs are more expensive but they are more "rare" too. Time will tell, but I am thinking LJs will hold more value than a TJ. The mods are about the same, however, there are some vendors that dont make a particular mod for the LJ that they make for TJs. but that number is pretty small. I like the look of the LJ and the TJ, not sure I have a preference of one over the other. I have an auto, and specifically bought an auto. I live in Dallas and the thought of driving here with a stick just didnt seem like a lot of fun. While I have a lift and other mods, most of my driving (95%) will be as a DD.
I cant speak to the drivability issue.
Here are a couple of pics of mine w 33s and a 4inch lift.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:34 PM   #14
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LJ all the way! I owned a 97 TJ before buying my "new" 06 LJ Rubicon. The reasons I like my LJ over my old TJ is the extra space & better ride quality to name a few. Don't get me wrong I love all TJ's, but if you have a choice go with the LJ. You will not regret it.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:44 PM   #15
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Anyone know the WB of these three jeeps...

TJ
LJ
JK 2 door

I could look it up but I'm lazy.
TJ 93.4inches
LJ 103.4 inches
JK 2 door 95.4 inches
JK 4 door 116 inches
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Unlimited's come with a standard correct? Or just automatic? I am starting to lean toward the LJ's bc they look good sitting up on 33's
04 only 4 speed auto
05-06 choice of 6 speed manual or 4 speed auto
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I've owned my 05 LJ for about 5 1/2 years now.
I agree they look a bit odd in stock form, but with 33s or bigger and a lift, they look more proportionate.
Offroad on tight logging trails, I've only had one or two occasions when the extra length caused me to make a multi-point turn when TJs and other SWB Jeeps made single-point turns
The extra space when camping is great; and the ride is better.
I owned and wheeled a '71 CJ5 for 16 years prior to this LJ, so I'm still enamored with the extra room...

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Old 09-25-2012, 06:15 AM   #18
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Can anyone post an interior pic of the lj now I curious how much more room you hace
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Can anyone post an interior pic of the lj now I curious how much more room you hace


There's a HP D30 complete from rotor to rotor in there...along with a bunch of other stuff like a CJ tailgate and a ZJ back seat...and the passenger seat is not folded forward.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:19 AM   #20
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What can y'all tell me about drive lines on the LJ. I know anything over 3" of lift on a TJ you get into problems with U-Joints, SYE, and such like that. With the longer wb and drive shaft does this help?
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:33 AM   #21
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I think it all depends on what your going to do with it. Small lift and 33s go with the LJ. Big lift, big tires and hard wheeling get a TJ. I could not justify spending the extra money on a LJ just to tear it up.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:35 AM   #22
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What can y'all tell me about drive lines on the LJ. I know anything over 3" of lift on a TJ you get into problems with U-Joints, SYE, and such like that. With the longer wb and drive shaft does this help?
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:53 AM   #23
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Very good read!! I'm having a hard time understanding this though
"Because the Double Cardan Shaft moves along the length of its shaft section it requires the ability to change the pinion angle. This means adjustable control arms or control arm cam bolts. The axle pinion must point toward the output shaft of the transfer case. Otherwise the U-joints on the axle side will wear out very quickly."
Doesn't the axle pinion always point toward the output shaft of the t-case?? How does the drive shaft having a slip yoke built into it hurt the pinion angle?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:02 AM   #24
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Never mind.. I found the answer a little further down!! Thank y'all
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:05 AM   #25
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I love my LJ. Probably wouldn't have got a jeep if it wasn't for this model. It's a much more practical DD.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:13 AM   #26
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Go test drive one. If you like it then buy it. If you don't then test drive a TJ. If you don't like that then go test a JK. You will know more once you drive them and look at the interior for yourself.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:31 AM   #27
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Randen, I had an 03 TJ and I loved it. I drove a JK before I bought it and didn't care for the small V-6 it had in it. I loved my TJ but the thought of a little more room is appealing to me. Where do you really see the extra 15" of space? Does the back seat have a little more leg room or is it all in storage space behind the back seat?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:38 AM   #28
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Randen, I had an 03 TJ and I loved it. I drove a JK before I bought it and didn't care for the small V-6 it had in it. I loved my TJ but the thought of a little more room is appealing to me. Where do you really see the extra 15" of space? Does the back seat have a little more leg room or is it all in storage space behind the back seat?
To be honest my LJ back seat sits in my living room as a cat bed more than its in my jeep. I like there to be lots of room. With the seat gone it almost feels like a truck. I don't have kids so I don't use the backseat but I did sit in it once. Felt the same as a TJ. With the back seat in you can tell a difference in the trunk area. Lots more room than a TJ. If you have the extra money to spend I would go for an LJ every time. They are a little harder to find though. Your best bet would be to go test drive one. Guarantee you will love the LJ. Arguably one of the best models ever made. Hope that helps.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:22 AM   #29
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LJs seem nice, but they have a harder time turning sharply. I see it when the Jeep club goes out. Sometimes in a turn they have to stop, reverse, then finish. They get crap about it on the CB.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:27 AM   #30
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with the longer wheelbase you get lots of extra storage and it can also be an advantage wheeling in the same way that the 4 doors jks have an advantage, the long wheel base can help you to get up and over obstacles easier. also in terms of drivelines, with a longer wheelbase, the rear driveline is longer, therefore making it a less of a PITA to deal with. i'd go LJ, they look badass lifted.

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