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Old 04-12-2013, 07:23 PM   #31
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I'm not an LJ owner per say, but my dad has a sweet Rubihara LJ that I drive often. It's sweet and that extra 10" of wheelbase is awesome on hill climbs. The extra length is kind of a pain on ledges and twisty trails compared to my TJ. LJ's don't ride any better by the way, my TJ rides way better then his. The extra room is nice too, it takes some strategic packing to get a weeks worth of camping/wheeling supplies in my TJ.

I would have like to have started with an LJ, but to me it's not worth switching after all the time, money, effort, and dents I've put in my TJ. If I ever want more wheelbase I'll just stretch .

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Old 04-12-2013, 07:25 PM   #32
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LJs ride much better IMO. Owned both

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Old 04-12-2013, 07:27 PM   #33
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Im pretty sure all 04's were auto only, no manual option.
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:55 PM   #34
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Am I missing something, is something bad about the oil pump assembly thingy?
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Old 04-12-2013, 08:01 PM   #35
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LJ's don't ride any better by the way, my TJ rides way better then his.
There was a huge difference in ride between my TJ and LJ. The LJ is much softer - the wife noticed right away.
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Im pretty sure all 04's were auto only, no manual option.
This is correct!
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:26 PM   #37
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I had a 02 TJ for a few years and my 06 lj rubicon is far superior! The only thing that sucks a little is the turning radius, and it's only a couple feet more, but I have to 3 point out of my driveway when the motorhome is there and I could do it in one shot with the TJ. It's not a deal breaker by any means. Now that I have kids the extra couple inches of rear seat room is awesome and I would have had to sell the TJ, but the LJ still works. You can fit a real full size cooler behind the seat in a LJ! I hated having to use a soft cooler when I went wheeling with 4 people. IMO the LJ is far far superior and I will never own another TJ. I was close to buying a new JK rubi, but the little bit of extra room in the LJ was way better, and the 4 door JK was way too big. The extra 1000lbs of towing capacity is nice too.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:04 PM   #38
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What is the OPDA issue? Is it bad
Search "laughing monkeys" and you'll see exactly what the issue is. It's an engineering flaw with the oil pump drive assembly on the 05/06s that causes it to wear out prematurely and will cause a loss of oil pressure resulting in engine failure. Again it's not LJ specific but rather 05/06 specific. I wouldn't let it deter you as it can be replaced with a non oem unit that addresses the issue for under a couple hundred bucks. I have 72k miles on my 06 and don't have any symptoms of an OPDA failure yet but I know I'll have to address the issue sooner rather than later.
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Old 04-13-2013, 12:24 PM   #39
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[IMG][/IMG]I love my 06 LJ building it, the extra storage i get and the fact i get to choose what i want to ad to it compared to the rubi. with the Lockers, and still haven't needed a locker yet.

Ull be stoked go with a 3.5in Rubicon express short arm or Rock Crawler suspension,
if u get arms u can put in a Tummy tuck easy,
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Old 04-13-2013, 10:02 PM   #40
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I love my 06 LJ building it, the extra storage i get and the fact i get to choose what i want to ad to it compared to the rubi. with the Lockers, and still haven't needed a locker yet.
I am not following your thinking, but I am new to Jeeps.
Is it harder to add and change things to a Rubicon ??

I understand a Rubicon is a little more expensive but when I was shopping the Rubicon was still cheaper than changing out to convert a non-rubicon to having lockers, lower t-case gearing, lower r&p gearing, SYE.... it adds up to alot more than just starting with a Rubicon.

Am I missing something about the Rubicon model ??
Is it different enough it makes it hard to find parts or something for it ??
Does this thinking apply to both the TJ and LJ or just specific to the LJ ??

You are not the first person to make a comment like this so it is starting to peak my curiosity. Little late since I have already bought but still be good info to know.

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Old 04-13-2013, 10:20 PM   #41
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Love our 05 LJ Rubicon. Changing stuff on a Rubi is no different than a regular LJ except for the lockers (i think). The Rubi come with air locker and if you wanted to change to an aftermarket locker, I think its a PITA (dont really know as I have been totally happy with the stock Rubi locker). The head unit on the Jeep isn't bad until you put in an aftermarket unit, which really does make a significant improvement. The factory 16" rims on a Rubi aren't bad but you need to change to 15" to get load range C tires. I haven't done that either as I was concerned about clearance issues with the disc brakes and TRE's. The ride is terrific. I have a 2.5" OME and 1"BL. Im running 33" Duratracs on procomp LaPaz rims. I wouldn't say the ride is soft, but it is certainly not as harsh as a TJ on the freeway. The added length off road can make it a little dicey if you're wheelin with a TJ, although I've been able to get everywhere they have. We also have not experienced and OPDA issues to date.
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Love my 06 Rubicon Unlimited ! If I knew what I was missing with my 01 SE 8 yrs ago.....
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:10 PM   #43
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Picked up my first Jeep (05 LJ) and love it. Installed a new stereo/speaker/console sub first night I bought it. Still trying to figure out the ins/outs of the Jeep. Getting better at raising/lowering softtop lol

Its cheaper, easier to work on than my other suv Im selling. Im going from a luxury to the Jeep and dont miss it thus far.

Need to fix the whole fuel hose remedy still and figure out my lift situation but Im thinking I'll hang onto this one for awhile.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:16 PM   #44
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I am not following your thinking, but I am new to Jeeps.
Is it harder to add and change things to a Rubicon ??

I understand a Rubicon is a little more expensive but when I was shopping the Rubicon was still cheaper than changing out to convert a non-rubicon to having lockers, lower t-case gearing, lower r&p gearing, SYE.... it adds up to alot more than just starting with a Rubicon.

Am I missing something about the Rubicon model ??
Is it different enough it makes it hard to find parts or something for it ??
Does this thinking apply to both the TJ and LJ or just specific to the LJ ??

You are not the first person to make a comment like this so it is starting to peak my curiosity. Little late since I have already bought but still be good info to know.

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You hit the nail on the head. Not missing anything, I find these comments come from folks who don't have a Rubi to begin with.
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Old 04-20-2013, 12:26 AM   #45
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Had both...2000 TJ and current 05 LJ. Love both....LJ storage and Dana 44 ( better rear end)

Neg: worse gas mileage ( yeah that's why we bought'em)
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Old 04-20-2013, 02:49 AM   #46
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I'm about 4 months into a 2006 Rubi LJ and I've been having some fun getting it fixed up so far.



Since buying I've done the following;
  • 1.5" lift via H&R Springs
  • Bilstein 5100 Shocks
  • Replaced front and rear factory bumpers (Added wiring for Trailer)
  • Added 2012 Factory Rubicon Wheels and Tires
  • Modified spare tire carrier for 5X5.0 Bolt Pattern
  • Added Weathertech mats front and rear
  • Replaced Factory Stereo with New Kenwood deck with iPhone/BT
  • Added rear console with factory Sub (PO had removed)
  • Permanently mounted Garmin 1490 GPS with Hardwiring
  • Installed rear view mirror with map lights, compass and OAT
  • Installed seat heaters in front seats
  • Installed Covercraft Seat Covers
  • Replaced various factory parts and pieces
  • Added Smittybilt Tailgate G.E.A.R. system
Things I still need to install/want to do
  • Install Safari top & tonneau cover (for summer when HT is off)
  • Add CB Radio (Already Have the overhead rack in place from PO)
  • Install power door locks - already bought kit (PO already added PW)
  • Install On-board air system
  • Probably need another 2-3" of lift and will move to 35" tires when these wear out.
It sounds like I must have a boatload of $$ in this thing but to date I'm in the Jeep only about $17K, probably will be at a little more than $17.5K when done. I toyed with just buying a new Jeep but really didn't want to spend over 30K and in the end have a smaller (2 door). The LJ was just the perfect size and the 4.0L was my choice so I decided to build up a solid platform and make it as much like I wanted as possible.

I love this thing so far and it is just perfect for my mission.....I'm pretty sure I'll still love it by the time they put the V6 Diesel in the refreshed Wrangler (2nd year of production) with the lifetime warranty from Jeep and just keep it forever......so for now the LJ is the absolute best way (for me) to go and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-20-2013, 07:29 PM   #47
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The only thing I don't like about mine is that it's not a Rubicon LJ, and finding out how heavy the hard tops are which made me change my mind about wanting the hard top.
The top is heavy. I have a winch mounted in the garage to pull it off. I just let it hang all winter. I had to get the electric one (CL used, 150) I couldn't stand hand winching it.

Not bad with the hanger and the elec winch though. Very nice in winter with that giant big hard top on. Tracks like crazy on snow and ice.
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The top is not bad for 2 grown men. I put it on a 4 post lift, lift it 8' off the ground, carry it across the gap onto my roof, then walk it across the roof, cross another gap and leave it on top of my shed. I need a helper, but it's not hard.
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Old 04-20-2013, 09:00 PM   #49
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The top is not bad for 2 grown men. I put it on a 4 post lift, lift it 8' off the ground, carry it across the gap onto my roof, then walk it across the roof, cross another gap and leave it on top of my shed. I need a helper, but it's not hard.
Hu? Nice NRA sticker though.
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now how did that get up there....

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The top is not bad for 2 grown men. I put it on a 4 post lift, lift it 8' off the ground, carry it across the gap onto my roof, then walk it across the roof, cross another gap and leave it on top of my shed. I need a helper, but it's not hard.
One thing for sure...

Jeep people are resourceful.

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Old 04-22-2013, 10:52 AM   #51
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I've owned my 05 LJ for... 6 years in May.

The only thing I don't like about it is that it gets only half of the fuel econony of my wife's Volvo S60 AWD.
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:20 PM   #52
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Gee,
I hate the extra room
I hate the better ride
I hate having better axles
I hate not having to use a SYE
I hate that its really a better crawler
I hate that it will hold its value and be more valuable over time



uh, j/k
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:29 AM   #53
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Gee,
I hate the extra room
I hate the better ride
I hate having better axles
I hate not having to use a SYE
I hate that its really a better crawler
I hate that it will hold its value and be more valuable over time



uh, j/k
love mine
Yup.....that stuff all sucks
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Gee,
I hate the extra room
I hate the better ride
I hate having better axles
I hate not having to use a SYE
I hate that its really a better crawler
I hate that it will hold its value and be more valuable over time

uh, j/k
love mine
LOVE!! So true haha.
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The only thing I don't like about mine is that it's not a Rubicon LJ, and finding out how heavy the hard tops are which made me change my mind about wanting the hard top.
My hubby n I can get mine off with the two of us. We don't have a garage so it's just on n off all the time. I stand up in the back to pop it out. He stays behind to guide to down while I push from the front. It's just awkward.
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I couldnt be happier with my LJ. I am even happy that I have a non-Rubicon model to do all my own work on. I love all the different kinds of tops we can get with these with the rollbars slanted the way they are.


is that a rampage soft top?
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is that a rampage soft top?
No TrekTop NX.
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No TrekTop NX.
Looks good, nice jeep also
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Bought a LJ brand new in 05, sold it in 08. Idk why?? Im an idiot. Just bought a 02 tj and I really miss the room my LJ had. The LJ looks awesome lifted and has so much more room, the backseat in the TJ is completely pointless no one over the age of 5 can fit back there haha
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Looks good, nice jeep also
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