Lockers - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 12-19-2006, 09:18 PM   #1
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7
Lockers

I have an 02 Wrangler Sport everything is stock except for a 4" suspension lift. Want to improve my off-road capabilities.....
What do you all suggest as far as getting traction to all 4 wheels?

Serg is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-19-2006, 09:47 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
mrbigjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,288
most love arbs. its an open diff when its not engaged so it's not noticeable on the road and you can engage it offroad any time you want. cost is high and you do have to have some sort of air source. only bad thing i've heard is that the air lines can break and then if they do you can't use the lockers until you get the new lines. a lot of guys on here run arbs and love them.

thats probably what i'd do if i was gettin lockers. im sure some others will chime in.

mrbigjeep is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-19-2006, 09:52 PM   #3
IITYWTMWYBMAB

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
4Jeepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 9,454
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Serg View Post
I have an 02 Wrangler Sport everything is stock except for a 4" suspension lift. Want to improve my off-road capabilities.....
What do you all suggest as far as getting traction to all 4 wheels?
So what is it that your Jeep is not capable of off-road that you wish to improve? Also what type and size tire are you running with your lift?
__________________
79.96.85.00.01.97.00.97.93.97.95.94
CJ.XJ.CJ. TJ. TJ.ZJ. TJ.TJ. ZJ.ZJ.YJ. XJ
4Jeepn is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-19-2006, 10:31 PM   #4
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7
I have 33" tires with the 4" lift. I want traction on all four wheels. I have been in a situation where one tire is off the ground and all power is reverted to the one loosing traction (slip differential).
Serg is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-19-2006, 10:39 PM   #5
WINNAR!!!!!!
 
MR.CLIFFORD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: THE PROVING GROUNDS
Posts: 6,520
Another cheaper alternative is a lunchbox style locker like a no slip. They are easy to install and will do what you want off road yet will allow you no problems on road plus you don't have to have your gears reset.
MR.CLIFFORD is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2006, 08:34 AM   #6
IITYWTMWYBMAB

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
4Jeepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 9,454
Images: 5
Okay, now which rear axle do you have. If you have the dana 35 in the back putting a locker back there will up the chances of the axle going poof...and you being stuck on the trail. If you have the dana 44 then all should be well. However you may find that either a lunchbox locker such as a lockright, or if you have the cash an arb in the front will make a world of difference. Of course, they do sell upgradekits for the dana 35 that include a locker and stronger axle shafts which many people run with no issues.
__________________
79.96.85.00.01.97.00.97.93.97.95.94
CJ.XJ.CJ. TJ. TJ.ZJ. TJ.TJ. ZJ.ZJ.YJ. XJ
4Jeepn is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-20-2006, 08:59 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
BILLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 210
You might also consider The Detroit Tru-Trac limited slip.Bill
BILLG is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-22-2006, 09:48 AM   #8
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7
I have stock axles, I am guessing 35. So, what exacly is a lunch box locker?
Serg is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-22-2006, 11:00 AM   #9
WINNAR!!!!!!
 
MR.CLIFFORD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: THE PROVING GROUNDS
Posts: 6,520
You can check your rear diff cover. If there is a plastic plug there you have the 35. If it is a steel plug you have a 44.

A lunch box style locker replaces only the spider gears.

Like this...

http://www.dpgoffroad.com/tech/lockright1.htm
MR.CLIFFORD is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-22-2006, 12:10 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
RioGrande95's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 45
Locking a stock 35 with 33" tires sounds a little risky to me. If you want to lock the rear I would suggest upgraded axle shafts to go with it. Depending on how much $$ you have I would suggest putting a lunch box in your front axle. It will hardly be noticeable on the street because your forward drive shaft is not engaged in 2wd. If you break the Dana 30 the odds of you still being able to drive home are higher than if you break the D35.

This will buy you time to save up and upgrade axle shafts and install a locker in the D35 all at once. I am pretty sure if you install the shafts and locker separately it will cost more and you may end up buying redundant parts you just throw away. If you upgrade the front lunch box later, you could probably sell it to help cover its cost. Say lunch box costs $250 you sell it used for $100, thats about $150 for a few years of a locked front diff, not a bad way to go! The one real down fall to throwing a lunch box into your front diff is I have read mixed reviews of how they handle on packed snow and ice in 4wd.
__________________
I own a Rubicon, its on layaway with Quadratec...on a part-by-part basis
RioGrande95 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-23-2006, 03:35 PM   #11
Newb
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 7
Thanks for the info...
Serg is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-23-2006, 06:31 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 75
would a detroit locker in a 44 handle snow and ice well ? also would there be any issues w/ a mostly street driven jeep ? breakage , drivability etc. this is for a dd.
hazmat is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-23-2006, 07:03 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
mrbigjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,288
if the rear were to lock up in the snow i would think that it could slide right out from under you.
mrbigjeep is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-24-2006, 12:34 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 75
so a detroit is a no go on snow and roads ? looking at 44's every body offers them w/ an ox an arb or a detroit which would be best for snow and ice ?
hazmat is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-24-2006, 01:58 PM   #15
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 29,209
Images: 2
As a Jeeper who loves the strength and simplicity of the Detroit Locker in his rear axle, go with an ARB Air Locker if you drive on ice or snow covered roads a lot.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 01:36 AM   #16
Jack Lives Here!!!

WF Supporting Member
 
1BLKJP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 7,764
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazmat View Post
so a detroit is a no go on snow and roads ? looking at 44's every body offers them w/ an ox an arb or a detroit which would be best for snow and ice ?
If driving on slick or snowy roads is a factor where you live then any kind of selectable locker I.E. ARB/OX/Eaton etc... will be the ticket for you.
__________________
Thanks,
Jack Hickman

President - Arizona Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition
Vice-President - ASA4WDC
Arizona Rock Rats
1BLKJP is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 09:50 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 8,286
Send a message via AIM to Triple88a Send a message via MSN to Triple88a Send a message via Yahoo to Triple88a Send a message via Skype™ to Triple88a
I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?
Triple88a is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 10:27 AM   #18
Jeeper
 
mrbigjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,288
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?
if its slippier then that means its gonna be constantly locking up.
mrbigjeep is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 12:00 PM   #19
coilovers are damn flexy
 
bluvikng's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple88a View Post
I'm a bit confused though why whould a locker break in snow? Wouldnt snow put less strain on it because its slippier than any thing else?
No need to be confused, having both rear wheels turning at the same time, and at the same speed, is not good on slippery surfaces. It will not harm the locker, it will cause your vehicle to loose traction (break loose), that is all that is being said here. It works great off road, but not on slippery surfaces. You loose control of your vehicle, easier.

That is why having a selectable locker, is more desirable, and safer, and all around, moe better.
bluvikng is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 12:50 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 75
I have seen the eatons advertised on northridge 4x4 I believe . Is this a limited slip when not locked like the ected ? If not any one know where I can get a dana 44 setup w/ an ected and 4.56's ?
hazmat is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-25-2006, 01:58 PM   #21
IITYWTMWYBMAB

WF Supporting Member
::WF Administrator::
 
4Jeepn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florence, KY
Posts: 9,454
Images: 5
Having run a detroit on snow covered roads.. it did fine.. no issues really to speak of. This was in the rear. Now having a lock-right up front and a limited slip in the rear... was a nightmare. Pulling everyplace..thus full time in rear okay... in front not so good.

__________________
79.96.85.00.01.97.00.97.93.97.95.94
CJ.XJ.CJ. TJ. TJ.ZJ. TJ.TJ. ZJ.ZJ.YJ. XJ
4Jeepn is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How To Use ARB Lockers? nicolas-eric General Jeep Discussion 10 12-19-2009 07:04 PM
Aussie Lockers?? Anything Cheaper than ARB? Timberman TJ General Discussion Forum 15 11-12-2008 06:07 PM
Calling all gear heads!! Lockers!! Timberman TJ General Discussion Forum 13 10-04-2008 11:48 AM
Lockers Info Needed SoCal Climber TJ Tech Forum 17 06-26-2007 08:06 PM
Lockers? whitebuffalo General Jeep Discussion 16 07-05-2005 05:22 PM



» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:32 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC