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Old 02-26-2010, 11:19 PM   #1
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Looks like I'll be Herculining my floor soon...

The other day I noticed my carpet on the driver's side is absolutely soaked from the snow on my boots melting and pooling up... I noticed today that my Jeep has a moldy smell to it. So I'm gonna go out out on a limb and say my carpet is getting pretty nasty. I lifted it up the other day and there's no rust in the tub... so I figure the best time to Herculine my interior would be ASAP before the carpet molds and the tub gets nasty.

I've seen most of the tips on here as far as the actual process goes... what all do you folks remove when you do it?

I'm figuring seats (front and rear), carpet (obviously), center console, what am I missing? Also...when you folks do it, do you JUST do the floor or do you do the entire tub including the sides, rocker panels (inside), etc?

Many folks talk about using a wire wheel or something similar to remove a lot of the paint and others have said just using the included scotch bright pad to scuff the gloss finish it plenty...which is it? I don't mind a little overkill...but if it's extreme overkill, I'd love to do something more productive with my time.

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Old 02-26-2010, 11:28 PM   #2
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I have a buddy that did his and he pulled everything out. Seats,center console, took off the lower part of the cage cover(bottom were it mounts to the tub), basically stripped the inside. That way you don't have any lines in random places. He pulled his drain plugs..obviously, and used ear foamies. The ones that you put in your ear to plug holes were hardware bolts into. As far as the finish I believe it tells you on the product but taking the gloss off and making it a rough surface should do just fine. That crap sticks to anything. One reason to remove everything from inside! Also I've heard rolling it is easier, just get a small brush to. What kind are you looking at?

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thats a good question. should you remove the seatbelts? if so how would you go about doing that?
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What kind are you looking at?
I'm figuring just going with the Herculiner roll-on kit you can buy for bout $90...unless anybody has some cheaper suggestions that work just as good (or better).
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Old 02-27-2010, 12:09 AM   #5
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I used the Herculiner kit (about $100). I removed just about everything thing I could when I did mine. I took out the seats, console, roll bar, and seatbelts (not the dash though). I removed every bracket, bolt, washer, plug, and all the wiring that I could. Once I had all the big stuff out, I just started looking for every little thing I could take out. Did it take extra time...yup. But I think it really helped the overall results.

I've seen half-ass DIY liner jobs and they LOOK half-ass. I wanted mine to look nice, so the extra effort was worth it. I'm one of the ones that used the wire wheel and drill to do the prep. Was it overkill? Maybe, but I've seen jobs where people scuffed the paint with the included pad and had spots flake/peel. In my opinion, it was worth the extra time to ensure that the liner would adhere properly. It tool a few hours of my life...whooptie-do.

I lined nearly the entire interior. In the rear, I lined up to the bed rails, but not on the bed rails. I figured that would be a good termination point as it isn't a visible area. Same thing for the rocker panels. Up the sides but not over the rail. In the foot wells, I lined up to the seam where the floor board hits the firewall (again, a pretty concealed termination point to make any flaws less visible). Having the roll bar out made it pretty easy to get to a lot of the nooks and crannies in the tub (but the roll bar was a PITA to get out).

Tape or otherwise cover any and ALL areas that you don't want liner on. The stuff has a tendency to drip everywhere you don't want it to drip. Have some acetone on hand to clean up any accidents. Plug all the holes from the bolts you removed. Take your time and try to avoid shortcuts. I allowed myself two days to do the job and I'm glad I did. The results were nice and I learned a lot about my Jeep in the process. I'm sure that will come in handy at some point down the line.

And one last tip....wear long sleeves and nitrile/rubber gloves. That stuff adheres REALLY well to skin and hair.
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rear seat belts are just held on to a bracket secured with a torx bolt. Do the whole tub, wheel wells, floor do the whole inside. Remoe the seats, rear seat brackets, carpet obviously, center console. anything on the floor. Took me about 5 hours from start to finish not including drying time. Tip: put a wirebrush end on a grinder to prep the surface. Speeds the process up greatly.
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This thought just came to me... it may be obvious once I get all the carpet out anyway, but why is it that everyone uses Herculiner (and similar products). Is it simply for scratch protection and sound deadening or is the tub itself not designed to be left out in the elements when the top is off?
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I personally dont really care for just the liner in the jeep. I like the carpet over it aswell. I dont think just the liner looks nice. But i plan to do this this summer. Also does anyone know how much Ziebart chargers to Rhino line the inside tub? Cause if its not much more $$$ than the Hurculiner kit why not save yourself the hassle and time and have the best liner put in(Rhino linner)

* s3nt3nc3d your jeep profile says your jeep is a 2010, i dont think that is right lol
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Im not sure what their price is, but at our shop we charge anywhere from 500-600 dollars for a truck bed to get done, never had a jeep done but the price would probably be similar to that of a truck bed.
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Also does anyone know how much Ziebart chargers to Rhino line the inside tub? Cause if its not much more $$$ than the Hurculiner kit why not save yourself the hassle and time and have the best liner put in(Rhino linner)
The quote I got was about $900 - screw that. I'm Herc-ing mine in the spring.
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:34 PM   #11
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^^^ ya i denfinatly agree, I was just wondering. I mean if it was gonna cost like $50 extra $$ or somethin i would prolly just let them do it but ya ill take the $100 Hurc. kit over that price any day!! lol
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:34 PM   #12
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You can see everything I took out here. Seats, brackets, console, rear seat belts. And some things not shown like the lower seat belt anchor points, flipped the belts up out of the way.



Also took out the misc wiring and taped it up on the roll bar so that I could reinstall later.



Went up the tub, over the wheel wells...



... did part of the sport bar that is exposed (I also rolled up the sport bar covers to get underneath them a little bit.)



I went up the firewall a little bit in the front, and in the kick panels there's a seam where the two panels meet, I taped off and stopped at that seam.

Edit: Also note I taped over all the holes where I would be reinstalling bolts/screws, you can see that in the pics.
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Sorry the pics mostly suck.

As far as 'sanding' I used a 3M Scotch Brite disc and attached it to my drill. Way easier than sanding by hand, also faster and more effective. It's not overkill at all to do it, (It's a scotch brite pad, not a wire disc), just faster and more effective. You're only trying to scuff the clear, not remove the paint. I also took out all the rubber plugs and drain plugs:

Here's a few more pics -




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Very nice job. You're welcome to come over and help me do mine!
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Very nice job. You're welcome to come over and help me do mine!
Hell, I just lost my job so I probably could. We could do it when the snow melts and the weather warms up... ya know, like July.
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I took out everything i possibly could take out except the dash and roll bar. The prep is the toughest part i thought. once you get to where you actually apply the liner it is a breeze. Aslo if you buy the kit dont use the scuff pad (it sucks), i used a wire wheel and some sand paper to make sure all of the gloss was off. and i did line the entire interior of my tub, almost every square inch minus the roll bar. good luck with it, it will definetly be worth it in the long run.
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To answer your question, it is designed to be used in the bed of a truck. Assuming the truck has no topper, the liner must with stand the elements. Only downfall of the liner is it gets dirty as hell, very quickly, and a pain to clean, i just use the spray on bed liner to go over it with a coat to bring the sharp black back out.
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* s3nt3nc3d your jeep profile says your jeep is a 2010, i dont think that is right lol
Argh...I had it set to 2002 at one point...must have accidentally reset it or something when I was editing it. lol

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