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Old 08-06-2012, 07:27 PM   #1
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Max Tire Size Without a Lift Kit...

I just got a 06 TJ and I wanna throw some 33" tire on 'er but I was wondering if I need a lift kit to accommodate the larger tire size, and if so, how big of a lift do I need?

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2" budget boost for street, add a 1.25 body lift and you can go offroading without rubbing too badly

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Old 08-06-2012, 07:41 PM   #3
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Just wanna make sure Im understanding this correctly, I getta 2" and that'll do me fine for in the city. But if I wanna go 4x4ing I add a 1.25" ON TOP OF the 2"?
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2in Suspesion lift for "city" and add a 1.25 body lift (pucks that lift the body off the frame) for off roading
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2" budget boost for street, add a 1.25 body lift and you can go offroading without rubbing too badly
wont 3.25" still rub like crazy?
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:00 PM   #6
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33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.
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Old 08-06-2012, 08:04 PM   #7
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No. 3.25 inches is fine.. However this v is ideal

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33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.
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33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.
You have this on standby? Haha copy paste? I swear ive seen this 1000 times
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You have this on standby? Haha copy paste? I swear ive seen this 1000 times
around here mods will ban you for telling someone to search for those other 1000 posts covering the exact same subject, so you get to see my copy and paste.
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around here mods will ban you for telling someone to search for those other 1000 posts covering the exact same subject, so you get to see my copy and paste.
I like it. Ive practically memorized it. Thanks! By the way, you helped me with bumpstop extensions too haha.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #11
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Do you guys think I could cram 32x11.50x15's in stock wheel wells?
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:28 PM   #12
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32x11.50 are wide enough that their inside sidewall will rub the upper spring mounts in the rear. The biggest I'd go on factory wheels is 31x10.50.

For a stock height TJ, the biggest tire that won't cause undue problems is 31x10.50. To run 33x12.50 tires, you need aftermarket wheels (15x8 is perfect) and no less than 3" of additional clearance for the street. For offroading with 33x12.50 tires, 4" of additional clearance is recommended. 1" of which can be from a body lift.
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Do you guys think I could cram 32x11.50x15's in stock wheel wells?
Yes you can do it. I did it but I don't recommend it. I rubbed just going over speed bumps and such. There is no way I could disconnect at all. Here is a picture still connected with no lift. Look at how stuffed the front tire is

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So while you can do it I wouldn't try without atleast a budget boost.

Edit: and like jerry said and beat me too it make sure you get aftermarket wheels with less backspacing
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:35 PM   #14
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Oh gosh darnit, whatever I guess. Looks like Ill be running the 31x10.50 duratracs
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Oh gosh darnit, whatever I guess. Looks like Ill be running the 31x10.50 duratracs
You may or may not need to do this once you get those 31x10.50 tires installed. Five cents for two washers and five minutes worth of work.... click on Jeep Steer Stop Adjustment
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2 washers on either side would do it? I was reading that you just re-adjust the steering stops
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2 washers on either side would do it? I was reading that you just re-adjust the steering stops
Inserting a single washer under each of the two steering stop bolts should do the trick for a 31x10.50 tire on factory wheels.

You don't need to do that with aftermarket wheels which have less backspacing which means they give the tires a little more inside clearance by moving them out of the wheelwell a tad.
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Aight man, thanks for the advice. I dont got the tires yet so Ill do some more reading
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Inserting a single washer under each of the two steering stop bolts should do the trick for a 31x10.50 tire on factory wheels.

You don't need to do that with aftermarket wheels which have less backspacing which means they give the tires a little more inside clearance by moving them out of the wheelwell a tad.
the washer trick did it for me on my old 33x10.5s. Also I used to run 33x10.5s with a 1.25" BL and no rubbing on stock wheels.... It can be done but it is alot of work. Now I run 35s on stock springs with the same 1.25" BL
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Oh gosh darnit, whatever I guess. Looks like Ill be running the 31x10.50 duratracs
I did squeeze 33x10.5s on my TJ with no BL but I did rub at full tuck in the rear. here is a pic of what it looked like on the 33s with NO BL...
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What are your front fenders?
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Looking at a 98 TJ Sahara for my son with what appears to be a decent quality 2-3" suspension lift. He wants to put bigger tires on it. Assuming I'm right about the lift, do 33s on 15x8 wheels sound right? What about tire width? 10.5? 12.5? Can you go bigger than 33s? I want it safe and no rubbing. It looks like no steering or driveline mods have been done. It's off a lot so I can't ask the previous owner. Thanks. Sorry for the dumb question.

Also, anyone seen a cool color paint to go with that ugly (IMO) tan and green Sahara interior?
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What are your front fenders?
those are Mce fenders the 1st gen pair
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Looking at a 98 TJ Sahara for my son with what appears to be a decent quality 2-3" suspension lift. He wants to put bigger tires on it. Assuming I'm right about the lift, do 33s on 15x8 wheels sound right? What about tire width? 10.5? 12.5? Can you go bigger than 33s? I want it safe and no rubbing. It looks like no steering or driveline mods have been done. It's off a lot so I can't ask the previous owner. Thanks. Sorry for the dumb question.

Also, anyone seen a cool color paint to go with that ugly (IMO) tan and green Sahara interior?
33x10.5s are the biggest tire you should run on a stock wheel. As for going bigger then a 33" tire on stock axles it is not a good idea. I bent my stock steering while on the trail with my 33s so I upgraded to the stock grand cherokee steering setup,(which has solid steering parts) and I still bent it.
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33x10.5s are the biggest tire you should run on a stock wheel. As for going bigger then a 33" tire on stock axles it is not a good idea. I bent my stock steering while on the trail with my 33s so I upgraded to the stock grand cherokee steering setup,(which has solid steering parts) and I still bent it.
I should have said I want to put custom wheels on it too. Will 33x12.5s fit? What size wheel for that tire?
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I should have said I want to put custom wheels on it too. Will 33x12.5s fit? What size wheel for that tire?
15x8 with 3.75-4in of back spacing

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