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Old 04-25-2012, 10:55 AM   #1
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Mean stance.

Bought my tj all modded out, and I'm slowly putting my own taste to it. She's lifted 6" with 35's. Although I like the height the current set up isn't bulky enough for me. She looks to talk, I prefer a shorter wider stance. Should I just drop to 4"? Or is there a way I can achieve a wider, bulkier stance with my current set up?
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:12 AM   #3
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How wide are your tires? Wider fender flares with 12.50's make any jeep look alot wider.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #4
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How wide are your tires? Wider fender flares with 12.50's make any jeep look alot wider.
They are 12.5's.. Are some tires more round than others? Mine seem like rectangles when looking at the front profile
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Wider flares just make a Jeep look goofy. If you want a wider stance, you need less backspacing and less or no flares.

Like this. Don't mind the mess. Work in progress.
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Wider flares just make a Jeep look goofy. If you want a wider stance, you need less backspacing and less or no flares.

Like this. Don't mind the mess. Work in progress.
-mess ignored- how do I get rid of backspacing?
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Alot of that depends on the width of your rim. I have 33x12.50 on 15x8's and they look and drive badass.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:28 AM   #8
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just get wheel spacers and call it a day.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:29 AM   #9
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Alot of that depends on the width of your rim. I have 33x12.50 on 15x8's and they look and drive badass.
So the backspacing is dependent on the rims width?
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Wider flares just make a Jeep look goofy. If you want a wider stance, you need less backspacing and less or no flares.
x2 on the wider flares. No flares look way tougher/wider than new flares. They make the jeep look narrower, but the axles wider (even thought they arent.)
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-mess ignored- how do I get rid of backspacing?
To lower backspace you will need new wheels, or wheel spacers.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:37 AM   #11
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I'll look into it bud, thanks. Does anyone have similar setups? 6" lift on 35's. Or 35's on any other lift that could share some photos?
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So the backspacing is dependent on the rims width?
No, backspacing has nothing to do with width. A 15x8 or a 15x10 can have the same backspacing. This is how you measure your backspacing...the smaller the measurement, the farther your wheels stick out.

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Old 04-25-2012, 11:42 AM   #13
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It won't improve your stance any, but swapping out for some meaner tires may improve the look. Go to a mud terrain with the lettering facing in.
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What do you guys think about dropping to 4 inches? It seems like that would make the jeep a lot more stocky? Do the 2 inches make a difference
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It won't improve your stance any, but swapping out for some meaner tires may improve the look. Go to a mud terrain with the lettering facing in.
Do you have any examples? I've looked through my quadratec catalog countless times but I'm still learning brand names and measurements lol
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Do you have any examples? I've looked through my quadratec catalog countless times but I'm still learning brand names and measurements lol
Here is my jeep with 35x12.5x15 Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlars...great tire, and pretty aggressive. I have roughly 3.75" of lift with MCE flat fenders and stock, trimmed rear fenders.

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Here is my jeep with 35x12.5x15 Goodyear Wrangler MT/R Kevlars...great tire, and pretty aggressive. I have roughly 3.75" of lift with MCE flat fenders and stock, trimmed rear fenders.
See, the measurements on your tires are the same as mine but those look way meatier and aggressive. What size are you wheels?
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Here mine 6in lift with 36s
Replacing the bumper and tube steps next
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What do you guys think about dropping to 4 inches? It seems like that would make the jeep a lot more stocky? Do the 2 inches make a difference
6" is getting into the 'goofy tall' category. Way too tall, especially for stock-width axles and non-aggressive 35" tires that sit at more like 33.5".
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6" is getting into the 'goofy tall' category. Way too tall, especially for stock-width axles and non-aggressive 35" tires that sit at more like 33.5".
Agreed my tj is at that point the tires I think make it look ok but could I swap spring to a 4-5in springs and it be ok?
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Change to black rock crawler rims, mount white letters in, remove rack as the jeep looks taller with it on, Get badder asser looking tires.

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See, the measurements on your tires are the same as mine but those look way meatier and aggressive. What size are you wheels?
My wheels are 15".
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Agreed my tj is at that point the tires I think make it look ok but could I swap spring to a 4-5in springs and it be ok?
Why wouldn't it be OK? Geometrically, all you'll see are gains from dropping it down. I'm at hardly 3" over stock on 35" MTR's with more available travel than anyone else in this thread. Excessive height isn't the answer if you're looking for functionality.
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Why wouldn't it be OK? Geometrically, all you'll see are gains from dropping it down. I'm at hardly 3" over stock on 35" MTR's with more available travel than anyone else in this thread. Excessive height isn't the answer if you're looking for functionality.
Just wondering if it would be ok to do since the kit was a 6in not a 4
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Just wondering if it would be ok to do since the kit was a 6in not a 4
OK, quit thinking in terms of kit and break it down to a component level.....it's not like you're mysteriously locked at 6" over stock. Your springs are 6" taller than stock. Use a little logic and determine what will change when dropped down 2". For example, your control arms will flatten out a bit, the axles will move further apart a bit due to that, the track bars will flatten out so you'll need to recenter the axles, and the upper and lower bump stop pads will come 2" closer to each other. Your shocks will lose 2" of up travel so you'll either need shorter shocks or you'll need to modify the mounts. If there are interference points--like if you have a track bar drop bracket and drop pitman arm--then take care of that. Just use common sense.
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OK, quit thinking in terms of kit and break it down to a component level.....it's not like you're mysteriously locked at 6" over stock. Your springs are 6" taller than stock. Use a little logic and determine what will change when dropped down 2". For example, your control arms will flatten out a bit, the axles will move further apart a bit due to that, the track bars will flatten out so you'll need to recenter the axles, and the upper and lower bump stop pads will come 2" closer to each other. Your shocks will lose 2" of up travel so you'll either need shorter shocks or you'll need to modify the mounts. If there are interference points--like if you have a track bar drop bracket and drop pitman arm--then take care of that. Just use common sense.
Ok thanks make sense I'm gonna look into that
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OK, quit thinking in terms of kit and break it down to a component level.....it's not like you're mysteriously locked at 6" over stock. Your springs are 6" taller than stock. Use a little logic and determine what will change when dropped down 2". For example, your control arms will flatten out a bit, the axles will move further apart a bit due to that, the track bars will flatten out so you'll need to recenter the axles, and the upper and lower bump stop pads will come 2" closer to each other. Your shocks will lose 2" of up travel so you'll either need shorter shocks or you'll need to modify the mounts. If there are interference points--like if you have a track bar drop bracket and drop pitman arm--then take care of that. Just use common sense.
Thanks for the knowledge bud. Just bear in mind what may e common sense to some may not be for others (myself included) but I'll look further into the 2" drop. From your experience what kind of expenses would be included in this modification?
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I am in no way knocking chrome if that is your thing, But I have a yellow TJ and have painted the grill as well as the rise on the hood black and it looks pretty good and mean as well.
Post a pic dude. I've been in the process of DeChroming her. The PO put the grill ok there and I've tried taking it off a couple times but I think it might be sealed or glued. I'd hate to mess up the paint in an attempt lol
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Post a pic dude. I've been in the process of DeChroming her. The PO put the grill ok there and I've tried taking it off a couple times but I think it might be sealed or glued. I'd hate to mess up the paint in an attempt lol






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