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Old 08-08-2011, 07:48 PM   #1
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is their fender/flare stuff really worth the cost?

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is their fender/flare stuff really worth the cost?
Subtract the cost of a lift, motor mount lift, transfer case drop, SYE, new rear drive shaft, higher center of gravity, and then compare all those prices to simply raising your fenders to clear larger tires... Yes they're expensive, but for the cost they're hard to beat.

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they come with new inner fenders that was the deal seller for me. gen rights, PSCs and others you need to re use you stock inner fender. plus they give you almost high line clearance with out cutting you hood or the extra cost. when you compare the cost of metalcloaks to AVE's highline kit aka same tire clearance they start looking better. My set will be here Friday and can't wait.
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Subtract the cost of a lift, motor mount lift, transfer case drop, SYE, new rear drive shaft, higher center of gravity, and then compare all those prices to simply raising your fenders to clear larger tires... Yes they're expensive, but for the cost they're hard to beat.
ive already got the lift part out of the way. ive just been shopping around to see whats out there and so far ive liked metalcloaks the most. has anybody on the forum used and abused a set of these? im curious as to how heavy duty they are and how easy the install is.
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they come with new inner fenders that was the deal seller for me. gen rights, PSCs and others you need to re use you stock inner fender. plus they give you almost high line clearance with out cutting you hood or the extra cost. when you compare the cost of metalcloaks to AVE's highline kit aka same tire clearance they start looking better. My set will be here Friday and can't wait.
you'll have to let me know what you think of them once they're installed.
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Their stuff is well built & probly up with the best out there, I don't know how easy the install is but let me look, I know someone who got some of their guards recently & you could ask him.


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Their stuff is well built & probly up with the best out there, I don't know how easy the install is but let me look, I know someone who got some of their guards recently & you could ask him
that would be cool. based off of their website it sounds like most of the stuff just bolts on with some minor drilling required. i know how "simple" that stuff can be sometimes though.
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Are you looking only for positive opinions of the Metalcloaks? Or are you prepared to hear some negative opinions of them? I need an honest answer because I don't want to offend anyone with what I'm about to say about Metalcloaks.
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It has nothing to do with engineering or price or anything other than looks. They look too bolt-on, if that makes sense...kinda like LEGO fenders for Jeeps. Everyone has different tastes, so this is just MY opinion. I'm not bashing the fenders or the company that makes them, I'm just offering my opinion (with a disclaimer).

Now that I've said MY opinion, I will say that the people who have the Metalcloaks seem to really like them. The reviews are mostly all great, with most of the negative talk being about how they look, not how they perform or how they're built.

OP, if YOU like the way they look, then get them. Don't worry about my opinion or any other naysayers out there on the web. They're obviously well built and come with some great reviews.

There, see? That wasn't all bad...
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It has nothing to do with engineering or price or anything other than looks. They look too bolt-on, if that makes sense...kinda like LEGO fenders for Jeeps. Everyone has different tastes, so this is just MY opinion. I'm not bashing the fenders or the company that makes them, I'm just offering my opinion (with a disclaimer).

Now that I've said MY opinion, I will say that the people who have the Metalcloaks seem to really like them. The reviews are mostly all great, with most of the negative talk being about how they look, not how they perform or how they're built.

OP, if YOU like the way they look, then get them. Don't worry about my opinion or any other naysayers out there on the web. They're obviously well built and come with some great reviews.

There, see? That wasn't all bad...
These are pretty much my same thoughts on the metalcloak stuff. I have heard plenty of great things about them...I am just not a fan of the style/look of them. To each is their own, if you like the style of the metalcloak stuff, go for it...its just not my personal taste.
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Anybody see the writeup Mr Bransford wrote up on those new "rubber" flat type fenders? They looked amazing painted to match his red Tj. You would never know by looking they were rubber. They benefit by flexing if you where to hit them instead of possible damage to the sides of the jeep being metal
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When I first saw the MetalCloak arched fenders I was not a big fan of the look but after inspection I found that the quality of construction was far above what I have seen offered in the industry and are attached in a way that that can be returned to stock if ever so desired.
The "overline" style fenders that MetalCloak now offers are more to my liking... since we are offering opinions
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Anybody see the writeup Mr Bransford wrote up on those new "rubber" flat type fenders? They looked amazing painted to match his red Tj. You would never know by looking they were rubber. They benefit by flexing if you where to hit them instead of possible damage to the sides of the jeep being metal
I own a set...they arent painted to match on mine though. They are also ABS/plastic rather than rubber. Made by Modern Classic Enterprise


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The structure of MetalCloak flares are designed to protect the Jeep from damage if pushed into trees,rocks, dirt... road side signs? As far as looks go I am sure they are not for everyone but I have not spoken to a single person that has purchased MetalCloak product without being satisfied with the end result. Customer service has as much to do with my choice to purchase as the actual product; FYI it is also made in the USA.
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I own a set...they arent painted to match on mine though. They are also ABS/plastic rather than rubber. Made by Modern Classic Enterprise
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The structure of MetalCloak flares are designed to protect the Jeep from damage if pushed into trees,rocks, dirt... road side signs? As far as looks go I am sure they are not for everyone but I have not spoken to a single person that has purchased MetalCloak product without being satisfied with the end result. Customer service has as much to do with my choice to purchase as the actual product; FYI it is also made in the USA.
Are they designed different than your typical tube fender? If you dump the jeep into a rock with your typical tube fenders (because of the way they are mounted) the fender will hold up, but can/will bend the body in other areas. This is why MCE designed a fender made out of ABS, it will flex rather than take the brute force and bend the body.
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Are they designed different than your typical tube fender? If you dump the jeep into a rock with your typical tube fenders (because of the way they are mounted) the fender will hold up, but can/will bend the body in other areas. This is why MCE designed a fender made out of ABS, it will flex rather than take the brute force and bend the body.
The arched fenders paired with the flairs are designed to deflect energy. If you look at them they are angled. Or you just remove the flairs (since they're quick detachable) and not have to worry about it since if you "dump your jeep into a rock" there is nothing to hit, but if you REALLY dump your jeep into the rock to the point where it's at you hood, at least the metalcloaks without flairs will still stop it, opposed to the plastic that will keep bending and you'll have a rock in you hood.

I personally vote Rokmen.
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The arched fenders paired with the flairs are designed to deflect energy. If you look at them they are angled. Or you just remove the flairs (since they're quick detachable) and not have to worry about it since if you "dump your jeep into a rock" there is nothing to hit, but if you REALLY dump your jeep into the rock to the point where it's at you hood, at least the metalcloaks without flairs will still stop it, opposed to the plastic that will keep bending and you'll have a rock in you hood.

I personally vote Rokmen.
I will eventually go Rokmen when my jeep retires from DD and becomes full blown crawler. Since my jeep is a DD I feel that the MCE fenders fit my needs better, so if I do lean it over, I wont screw the body up to where my doors wont go on and/or shut any more. At least a hood is easier to deal with/replace than trying to get your doors to shut again.
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I agree, i like the build quality ive seen from MetalCloak, but one thing id do is paint the inner fender.

But i Vote Rokmen as well, around 500 with inner fender and just gotta cut your stock hood!

But until im to the 37" level ill prolly stick with my cut stock flatties and or MCE
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I will eventually go Rokmen when my jeep retires from DD and becomes full blown crawler. Since my jeep is a DD I feel that the MCE fenders fit my needs better, so if I do lean it over, I wont screw the body up to where my doors wont go on and/or shut any more. At least a hood is easier to deal with/replace than trying to get your doors to shut again.
That's certainly true, and I'm not bashing the MCE fenders, I think they are a good solution (however I'm not a fan of anything that requires cutting your old fenders).
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That's certainly true, and I'm not bashing the MCE fenders, I think they are a good solution (however I'm not a fan of anything that requires cutting your old fenders).
The unfortunate part is that more companies arent designing a full fender kit, but mainly only outer fender. I was nervous about cutting mine up, but now that its done I have no regrets. I just have to remember now...if for whatever reason I need to replace a fender, I have to upgrade to something better
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Are they designed different than your typical tube fender? If you dump the jeep into a rock with your typical tube fenders (because of the way they are mounted) the fender will hold up, but can/will bend the body in other areas. This is why MCE designed a fender made out of ABS, it will flex rather than take the brute force and bend the body.
Great questions and great discussions all...

One of the unexpected advantages of having flares that are not welded directly to the fender is the energy dissipation that occurs when they are hit.

While the flares are incredibly strong (note the video on our website with Matson jumping up and down on the flares), at a direct impact, the energy of the impact is spread out towards the ball lock joints rather then directly transferring to the tube fender and then to the tub avoiding the typical "body wrinkle" caused by other tube fenders.

In addition, the built-in deflection angles on our flares, help prevent that head-on impact that occurs when typical fenders catch a tree or rock and transfer that impact to the tub and grill.
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Great questions and great discussions all...

One of the unexpected advantages of having flares that are not welded directly to the fender is the energy dissipation that occurs when they are hit.

While the flares are incredibly strong (note the video on our website with Matson jumping up and down on the flares), at a direct impact, the energy of the impact is spread out towards the ball lock joints rather then directly transferring to the tube fender and then to the tub avoiding the typical "body wrinkle" caused by other tube fenders.

In addition, the built-in deflection angles on our flares, help prevent that head-on impact that occurs when typical fenders catch a tree or rock and transfer that impact to the tub and grill.
Great response to a good conversation.

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Thank you. We've been members for a few months, but have not had much "official" interaction, leaving to Matsonian and Jeepineer to crawl the threads.
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as for the looks im not really worried, im going for the most functional fender flare set i can find. one of the main things i want is a flare thats easy to take off if need be. ive gotten wedged in between trees before and had to do a 100 point turn just to get out.

as for mce i really like the look but dont like the fact that the flare isnt going to stop you from possibly doing more damage to the body. also with them ive got to worry about tire coverage laws. rokmens are pretty nice but one its on its there the flare isnt coming off.

metalcloak do you think you could take a couple of pictures looking down at the tire and so i can see how much the tire is covered. im not too sure which size flare would work for me.
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as for the looks im not really worried, im going for the most functional fender flare set i can find. one of the main things i want is a flare thats easy to take off if need be. ive gotten wedged in between trees before and had to do a 100 point turn just to get out.

as for mce i really like the look but dont like the fact that the flare isnt going to stop you from possibly doing more damage to the body. also with them ive got to worry about tire coverage laws. rokmens are pretty nice but one its on its there the flare isnt coming off.

metalcloak do you think you could take a couple of pictures looking down at the tire and so i can see how much the tire is covered. im not too sure which size flare would work for me.
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