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Old 08-16-2011, 09:56 PM   #1
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Metalcloak, TnT, Rokeman fenders???

Didn't want to highjack someones thread so here it goes.. I have been trying to decide between these three fenders. Metalcloak Overlines w/4" flares, TnT Hyline w/4.5" flare or Rokmen Hiline w/4' flare. Crunched number and all three are in the same ballpark when it comes to price. The Rokmen and TnT may actually be a little more after having to buy a new air intake, washer fluid container, expensive Optima battery and misc modification. My concern is never having seen any of these in person, how does the clearance stack up compared to each other? The rokemen and TnT both require a hood mod which allows the fenders to sit up higher than a standard flat fender. How does the Metalcloaks compare to these since it bolts up to the stock location? I know the hit line will be right around the hood line so does this mean TnT and Rokmen have more clearance above the tire? All three seem to have a significant gain behind the tires over stock but not much info on those websites to go on besides Metalcloaks site. I'm going the LCG route so I would like to get the most clearance I can to run 35's possibly 37's with just 2-2.5" spring lift and a small body lift. Any input from anyone with experience with these fenders would be appreciated. Also any pics you could post would be great, I love Jeep Porn!!!

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Rokmen and TNT will provide more clearance over Metalcloak. Between TNT and Rokmen, Rokmen hands down.

Note the Rokmen kits requires welding. You have to weld it all together and cut the hood. You don't need an optima battery, stock washer can be made to fit, and there are plenty of intake mods that will work.

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^ This. x1

If youre wanting something bolt up of course metalcloak will win. But if youre really wanting to run the set-up go big! The rokmen fenders are buff, work well and look good with the trimmed hood. You trim your stock hood and use trim to cover the edge, they sell it too!

I've had nothing but good experience with Dave and the crew at Rokmen. I've set there and talked for an hour or two with Dave about things not even pertaining to his business while he is out of the shop. They do go above and beyond to make you feel like a friend and not just another customer!
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Note the Rokmen kits requires welding.
As for Rokmen needing welding, what needs to be welded? Are we talking about the inner fender to outer? Not that I am afraid of welding just curious as to the amount of work is needed as the other two companies do not require any welding.
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Got any links to exactly what you are considering?
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Thanks for the feedback...

As for Rokmen needing welding, what needs to be welded? Are we talking about the inner fender to outer? Not that I am afraid of welding just curious as to the amount of work is needed as the other two companies do not require any welding.
Here is how the rokmen hylines come....
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Got any links to exactly what you are considering?
Rokmen Hilines

Rokmen HiLine Tube Fender Kit W/Flare - With Flares - Fenders - Armor & Protection

TnT Hylines

Jeep Wrangler TJ: LJ Unlimited: HyLIne (High Line) Tube Fender 4.5" Flare: T&T Customs

Metalcloaks Overlines, flares are sold separately. They have some cool pics and vids at the site.

Jeep Wrangler TJ/LJ Overline Full Replacement Flat Tube Fenders
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Here is how the rokmen hylines come....
Wow! There is a decent amount of welding that needs to be done Not liking that aspect of it so far. The other two are mostly bolt on.. Honestly I can probably almost fab that up myself?!?
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Yeah I was fixing to say, why would anyone buy the rokmen ones if you have to weld them anyway....It would be cheaper and easier to build your own if you can weld
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Cause most people cant cut, bend, weld and flare all at there house, anyone can plug up a welder!
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But not anyone can weld
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But not anyone can weld
But ANYONE can think they can weld


Not picking on anyone who posted in here, just saying I have seen some "welders" who finished product looks like a grape vine...
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But ANYONE can think they can weld


Not picking on anyone who posted in here, just saying I have seen some "welders" who finished product looks like a grape vine...
Nothing the grinder and some bondo wont fix
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What is the purpose of such a strong fender design?

What might happen if you run a super-strong tube fender into something like a wall, tree, rock, etc.?

(just to start a thoughtful discussion)
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What is the purpose of such a strong fender design?

What might happen if you run a super-strong tube fender into something like a wall, tree, rock, etc.?

(just to start a thoughtful discussion)
I asked this same question in a different thread, and the actual Metalcloak guy explained that their design is built to handle impact without damaging the rest of the body. Something about they are designed to transfer the force to joints rather than straight to body like other tube fenders.
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Of the Tom en fenders are like their other products, then they are cut and bent with absolute precision. I would dare any home fabricator to try and make something that good.

I would also agree with Jerry though. Anything with a large flare that sticks out has the potential to transfer energy where it's not wanted. I don't think the regular rokmen fenders would be a problem, but would be weary of clauses ones.
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You would be suprised how many DIY'ers make parts more precise and more bulletproof than a mass producer. They do just that, mass produce for the masses....and most of the masses would rather tell people how bada$$ their rig is than show um
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What is the purpose of such a strong fender design?

What might happen if you run a super-strong tube fender into something like a wall, tree, rock, etc.?

(just to start a thoughtful discussion)
This is why I'll most likely go with MCE's until i have a need for highlines!
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I wouldn't want to cut my fenders. I'd like to keep them just in case. I would go with the metalcloak for that reason. $600 for the set, which is what it will cost you for the original flares if you decide to go back to stock. No extra work, just paint and install. Why didn't I think of this before.
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I would throw a vote for the TNT's, they are ready to bolt in. However for running 35's or 37's any hyline fenders are just not necessary. You can use the standard height TNT's and still stuff 40's in there, hylines are designed to not have to lift your Jeep to redundant heights.
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See id worry about that too for resale value but after drilling into the tub over 20 times for rockers and full corners and then making my oem fenders flat, its already passed that point
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You would be suprised how many DIY'ers make parts more precise and more bulletproof than a mass producer. They do just that, mass produce for the masses....and most of the masses would rather tell people how bada$$ their rig is than show um
I'm not going to disagree with that. There are some insanely talented home fabricators. But just because it's mass produced or made in large quantities doesn't mean it can't be of the upmost quality. Just take a look at Savvy. Doesn't matter if you like their stuff or not, I don't think a lot of people will disagree that Gerald and Blaine are absolute perfectionist who send out nothing but the top most quality products.
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And just because one company is perceived to make such parts with such a high QC doesnt mean that they do either. Its all in the eye of the consumer. I personally wont run anyones name brand gear on my rigs simply because I can make it myself the way I want it, it costs less, looks better IMO, and I'm not getting paid to advertise
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Thanks for all the feedback..
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The fenders mentioned here so far are all of high quality. I love fabricating my own products and have the skills and tools to do so. But the older I get the more complicated life becomes which leaves me less and less time for my own stuff. So there come times where I would like to just buy some good products and install them and go wheeling, instead of spending the precious little free time I have fabricating. Yes the Rockmen are about $100 less, but require much more than $100 in time and material to assemble the pair so I do not see a savings there when all is said and done.
I recall when Metal Cloak started they made it a point that they understood REV111 had priced themselves out of business and they were going to streamline the mfg. process so they could offer their products at better prices than REV111. What happened to that idea? I'm not picking on MC specifically, I just remember that statement specifically and have been waiting to see the result, T&T are not any cheaper. Considering the mass production v/s the cost of one off fabrication you would think the prices could come down, but it seems increasing the profit margin per unit has eaten that up. I guess if I had to choose based solely on appearance I like the look of the MC the best, then the T&T second, Rockmen I already commented on above. But in the end, the prices they all want are outrageous and I can't justify the cost.
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I recall when Metal Cloak started they made it a point that they understood REV111 had priced themselves out of business and they were going to streamline the mfg. process so they could offer their products at better prices than REV111. What happened to that idea?
Good question and even though this is off topic, I thought I would take a stab at answering it.

In the process of redeveloping the Rev111 products to make them stronger and better, we increased the cost of production, but decided not to change the price point. In fact, if you look at the base price when Rev111 started, the prices have not changed in 5 years, even though our base material costs continue to rise.

And while we are trying to keep those prices down, there is increasing pressure that we may just have to raise prices in 2012, just to keep up with inflation, but we will fight that as long as we can.

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