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Old 06-30-2012, 01:25 AM   #1
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Alright guys i think ive made up my mind about getting some metalcloak arched tube fenders. i would how ever like to have a little input about what other users think of them(strength,install,worth it).if anyone has pics that would be great too. i would also like to hear tire and lift size aswell. any input would be great. thanks

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With overlines... a 3.5" RE lift and 35's fit just fine.... This is a friend of mine, Eric and his RUBICLOAK....



There is a guy on here that did the arched fenders.... I found the post....

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/cloaks-done-151316.html

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Thanks for the pic and info. Thanks for finding that post too.
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Alright guys i think ive made up my mind about getting some metalcloak arched tube fenders. i would how ever like to have a little input about what other users think of them(strength,install,worth it).if anyone has pics that would be great too. i would also like to hear tire and lift size aswell. any input would be great. thanks
I have them and I absolutely LOVE them!
Took this a day or two ago.



I love that I can run with or without flares depending on my mood (pic above is without any flares on) and select the size of flares that I want to run from rub rails, 4" or 6: flares. If I want to pour the money into it I can even have an assortment of different colored flares.

I love them because I can use them to pivot on a tree with and only scuff the paint, not damage my vehicle.
I love them because they look amazing on my Jeep
I love them because of the additional clearance they provide without having to chop my hood.

Yea... I love my 'Cloaks!
Taken right after the install.


Here's a link to my photobucket album from when we installed them.

It wasn't that hard but did take some time to get everything aligned nice and straight.

The hardest part for me was cutting my tub that little bit to put the full corners on, but I don't regret it.

The 'Cloaks are a quality product. Precision manufacturing and well thought out.
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:51 PM   #5
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I noticed some discussion on painting the access panels or leaving them raw.

Well, after mine being on the Jeep for awhile "raw" I had to pull them, clean them up and clear coat them. I used a satin automotive clear coat.

I completely spaced that aluminum does oxidize after awhile. So, it might be something to keep in mind.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:06 PM   #6
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ya...the only reason i dont have cloaks, is becouse i dont have enough money yet! lol
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thanks kate for all the pics and info! i love how your jeep looks.so why did you decide to just do normal paint instead of bedliner jw and how is it all holding up? i also love the full corners and would like to know some more about them too. which one did you get and how much more clearance and cutting did you have todo? and the only thing stopping me right now is money too! lol
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oh and kate what size lift and tires are you running too in those pics? thanks
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bedliner and expensive paint on armor is kind of a waste, on my bumpers, tube fenders, skids and sliders I use semi-gloss black, I rub them on everything from trees to rocks and its nice to know that 35 seconds with a spray can and a piece of cardboard and its as good as new, you can even do it on trail. powder coating, high gloss finishes, expensive painting, its all going to get scratched up if its doing its job, make the fix as easy as the obstacle.

just my $0.02, I looked very seriously at Metalcloacks, I nearly pulled the trigger and bought them, the reason I didnt is the flares being held in place by only 2 bolts, I wonder what would happen if you hit the center of the fender fairly hard on its side, also I can stand on mine and jump up and down (I weigh 255), serious strength is what I went for, but mine look no where near as good as the MC no question, they are the best looking tubes hands down.
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i guess your right it does get expensive for that stuff, and yea about the flares on metalcloaks website it has one of the guys jump on the fenders and he claims to be 245 lbs but idk the two bolt thing kinda made me question it at first to but thanks for the input im glad i wasnt the only one to kinda think twice about that two bolt thing. lol they do look good. i just hope to hear they perform just aswell as they look. thanks o_m_jeep
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thanks kate for all the pics and info! i love how your jeep looks.so why did you decide to just do normal paint instead of bedliner jw and how is it all holding up? i also love the full corners and would like to know some more about them too. which one did you get and how much more clearance and cutting did you have todo? and the only thing stopping me right now is money too! lol
Thanks so much for your kind words. I love Ajax, he's a spoiled rotten child. He even gets MY birthday/Christmas gifts.

Well...
I tried bedliner on my sliders. It didn't hold up particularly well and now after a few years has begun to flake like powder coating does. Eventually I'll have to remove them, sandblast and refinish. Urgh.

I think that I mentioned above that I already had shorty corners - and the holes that went with them. Had I known that I was going to 'Cloaks and/or full corners later in the game, I would have skipped that step. It just made more holes in my tub and was money wasted.

The trimming wasn't much. Just a bit and it's covered in the instructions that you can download from the Metalcloak website. After drilling all of the dang holes, the trimming wasn't nearly as painful as it might have been. The first hole is the hardest.

I run a 4" lift, 1.25" body lift and 35" Mud Countrys.

My preference for painted parts vs/rubber or powder coated is simply this.
1) I can EASILY touch it up when I scrape it
2) When it does get scraped it doesn't collect moisture underneath and eventually flake. That's been my experience anyway.

I use SEM paint products, a good self etching primer and do my best to properly prep surfaces. Aside from trail damage and normal wear and tear it holds up as well as anything but I can fix it if I foul it up and the touch ups blend in seamlessly.

I had been saving up for about a year so I could buy complete set of 'Cloaks for my Jeep and had about 3/4 of it put away when they had a contest. I was lucky enough to win a set of front fenders. It still cost me some serious (to me) money to get both sets of flares and rear corners, but I was SO grateful to be able to do it all at once. It saved me a lot of time.
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OH!
About the two bolt thing....
I questioned that too.

They have it set up so that the flare mounts to a peg of sorts. For lack of a better word.
If you look at the flare, it has a ball on either end, the ball has an opening in it that slips over the "peg" that creates a very stable mount. When you put them on, they lock in.

If you look at this photo of a rear corner you can see the mounting holes and in the lower right hand side is one of the "pegs"



I don't think I'd climb my fat arse up on one to test it, only because I'd prolly slip off and break my fool neck but I HAVE used my front and rear flares as pivot points on trees and only scratched the paint.

The rear flares are held on by 6 bolts.
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Kate,

I too love your Jeep. It looks very tastefully built. I've enjoyed reading your input and advice on the MCs as I too am saving for a set. What contest was it that you won through them? I'd jump for joy if I ever won anything! Would you say the install is easy enough for someone with minimal skill/ability? I've done a lift and SYE (had some help with it) and I'm hesitant about buying the full cloaks because I'm worried about not being able to pull it off alone.
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you can do it, the hardest part of the install is getting the fender walls filled back up with all your junk, you'll probably have to fab a mount for your washer bottle, but they make it very simple, MC includes some really good instructions, just follow them, the one trick I would suggest is when your doing the passenger side especially, use some rubber bungi straps (tarp straps) and use them to hold your fuse block and air box out of the way so you have room to work, also another tip is to get either a gear wrench or a squeeze ratchet or I used a red-tools spinning handle ratchet to get the center bolts at the rear of the fender. Dont worry about skill level, this is how you improve it dont let it defeat you before you even try, you'll do just fine.
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Kate,

I too love your Jeep. It looks very tastefully built. I've enjoyed reading your input and advice on the MCs as I too am saving for a set. What contest was it that you won through them? I'd jump for joy if I ever won anything! Would you say the install is easy enough for someone with minimal skill/ability? I've done a lift and SYE (had some help with it) and I'm hesitant about buying the full cloaks because I'm worried about not being able to pull it off alone.
Thank you!

The contest was on another forum about a year ago, sponsored by Metalcloak. Some of the good folks here on WF were kind enough to go over there and vote for me. I got third place, First place won an entire MC setup, front to rear including bumpers.

The instructions are pretty clear. You can go to their site and download them. If not, message Matson and ask for them.

As stated above, the hardest part was cramming everything back on under the hood. There were a couple of spots where my factory wiring was a hair short to get it exactly the way I wanted it but other than that it was not bad at all. It was a real sense of accomplishment when it was all done.

If you can get an extra set of hands it's a huge help in holding and positioning things. It's not like it's a piece of cake but certainly not as hard as your lift, that's for sure.

I'm trying to remember what issues we had during the install and asked OBM, he agrees, we didn't really have anything that was really difficult. Just take your time and be sure that everything is well aligned.

OH! I remember the ONE thing I had the most difficulty with.
Finding three wire turn signal lights for the front of the Jeep. Talk about a royal PITA! I searched for months and sent gobs of emails to companies. I finally found some on eBay (link to the guy I got them from) then modified my flasher unit to work with LEDs. FWIW, don't waste your time modding your own, it's worth the $27 to just buy one. I just wanted to see if I could do it. I'm stubborn that way, usually at my own expense. Got a big ol soldering iron burn on my hand.

Thanks for reminding me! I just ordered a couple of replacement sets of signal lights, "just in case". I've been meaning to do that but kept forgetting.
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you can do it, the hardest part of the install is getting the fender walls filled back up with all your junk, you'll probably have to fab a mount for your washer bottle, but they make it very simple, MC includes some really good instructions, just follow them, the one trick I would suggest is when your doing the passenger side especially, use some rubber bungi straps (tarp straps) and use them to hold your fuse block and air box out of the way so you have room to work, also another tip is to get either a gear wrench or a squeeze ratchet or I used a red-tools spinning handle ratchet to get the center bolts at the rear of the fender. Dont worry about skill level, this is how you improve it dont let it defeat you before you even try, you'll do just fine.
Great advice!!

We had a little trouble with the washer bottle. We ended up trimming off an alignment tab on the bottom that was supposed to go into a slot on the inner fender. It's nice and sturdy, holding just fine.
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thanks everyone for all the info this was a great write up about metalcloaks and just gives me more confidents about ordering them. thanks!
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Hey guys, FYI, the MC website is running a 4th of July Sale on the entire site on the 4th only. 10% off. Enter the coupon code "USAUSA".

I was hoping it would be free shipping because that would save me $300 instead of $150, but oh well.
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They just had a free shipping offer on Father's day sorry you missed it but happy that you're getting them WHOO HOOO!!!!
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Kate,

I must say that you have pretty much sold me on the arched fenders... I was thinking overlines until I saw your Jeep. I too have 4" lift and 1.25" BL , but on 33's.... and I like the stance.

Appreciate it... now to sell the wifey on it... lol!!!!
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Awww... THANK YOU!
I'll tell Ajax

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