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Old 01-31-2010, 09:59 AM   #1
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Michelin LTX A/T 2, Dueler A/T REVO 2, Firestone Destination A/T, or General Grabber?

Buying new tires soon for 97 Wrangler 2.5L.

Going from 225-75-15 to 235-75-15 for more options.

Chicago area, mostly street / highway driving with snow and rain in the winter months.

The LTX A/T 2 and A/T Revo 2 cost about the same.

The Firestone Destination A/T and General grabber AT 2 cost about the same.

Any opinions on these tires?

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Old 01-31-2010, 11:33 AM   #2
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I'd recommend the General Grabber AT2, love their tires, but if you're looking to stay in the same price range and get a wider tire, a 255/70R is always available and slightly taller, though they do stick out past your fenders.

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I don't know much about those particular tires but I've seen the Dueler AT a few times and it looks like a really tough tire.
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I heard the Firestone destination A/T are a good all around tire. A friend of mine has them on his truck, said they are incredible in the snow, and have excellent wear. I think they are rated really high on tire rack as well. No personal experience with them but have heard really good things
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Dueler A/T REVO 2

Been running the Duelers. They wear very well and have good road manners. They have done well for the trails that I ran. If they would just wear out I could justify the 4" lift and 33's. But they wear like steel.
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i am running 33X12.50 firestone destination at's on my jeep and it will go everywhere i need it to. i bought them used and they have about 9/32 of tread left. A friend sold his truck to another friend which sold me the tires. they ran on that f150 for about 30-40k then they sat under my cherokee for 4 years and i finally mounted them on my wrangler. no weather cracks, gets excellent traction in all conditions. i honestly cant complain about them other than they are not aggressive enough.
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Been running the Duelers. They wear very well and have good road manners. They have done well for the trails that I ran. If they would just wear out I could justify the 4" lift and 33's. But they wear like steel.
I am curious how many miles you have on them so far...the reviews of the Revo 2s tend to say they wear out around 35,000 miles....
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I went with Cooper tires the Discoverer Series. I do mostly trail, some snow and some mud. They're an aggressive tire but still gives a good ride. I looked at Cepek and all. I almost went with Goodyeat Wranglers that they sell at WalMart. But the Cooper guys gave me a great price so couldn't resist. Also compared to the Friestone Destinations (which I had previously) the Coopers are taller.....gotta love the extra lift.
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Is your ride auto or manual?? I just picked up a 99 2.5 auto and it came with 265 75 R15's and it is a dog (worse then the average 2.5). The guy I got it from said that he lost half the power when he went to that large of a tire. The height obviously raises the gear ratio and the width just sucks up horse power. I am not sure where you start loosing power but I am going back to a smaller tire when these wear out. Probably a 225. I don't do any off roading so the ride and being able to make it up a hill is more important to me then the looks of the bigger tire. ( I love how it looks with these tires but it can't get out of its own way when I hit the slightest grade or hill on the road)
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I am curious how many miles you have on them so far...the reviews of the Revo 2s tend to say they wear out around 35,000 miles....
Almost 20k so far and they look brand new.
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Love my 31's Dueler AT Revos. had them for almost 6 months, and i was worried about the ride/ traction with E load rated tires on such a light vehicle. Def think they were worh it and got a great deal as a parting gift on my last day working at Firestone.
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:52 PM   #13
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I just had Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's installed on my 07 KJ Liberty & there are great.
235/70R16's. I'm in MT and super traction on snow/ice.
They work for my wife & I.
Hope this helped.
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Is your ride auto or manual?? I just picked up a 99 2.5 auto and it came with 265 75 R15's and it is a dog (worse then the average 2.5). The guy I got it from said that he lost half the power when he went to that large of a tire. The height obviously raises the gear ratio and the width just sucks up horse power. I am not sure where you start loosing power but I am going back to a smaller tire when these wear out. Probably a 225. I don't do any off roading so the ride and being able to make it up a hill is more important to me then the looks of the bigger tire. ( I love how it looks with these tires but it can't get out of its own way when I hit the slightest grade or hill on the road)
I can see why you lost power. 265-75-15 has a 30.6" diameter.

I think the stock sizes for a Wrangler SE 2.5 are 205-75-15 (27.1") or 215-75-15 (27.7").

My 2.5 is Auto also.

I had 30x9.5x15 on it from the previous owner and power was a little bit down.

The tires on it now are 225-75-15 (28.3" diameter) and power is better then before. MPG also went up 2 MPG.

It's time for another set of tires and there are more choices in the 235-75-15 (28.9" diameter) size so I am considering moving up one size from 225-75-15 (28.3" diameter). I don't know how much of a difference it will make going from 28.3" diameter to 28.9" in terms of power and MPG? I assume it is not much?

They don't make Michelin LTX A/T 2 or Dueler A/T REVO 2 in 225-75-15, only 235-75-15.

I can get the Firestone Destination A/T and General Grabber A/T 2 in both 225-75-15 and 235-75-15. I will stick to 225-75-15 if I go with the Firestone or General.

I just wanted to get some opinions from other people who have owned any of the tires I am interested in. Are either the LTX A/T 2 or Dueler A/T REVO 2 a lot better then either the Firestone Destination 2 or General Grabber 2?
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I just had Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's installed on my 07 KJ Liberty & there are great.
235/70R16's. I'm in MT and super traction on snow/ice.
They work for my wife & I.
Hope this helped.
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What tires did you have before the REVO 2's?

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i sell a lot of michelin ltx, and i had them on my xj and the only reason i took them off is for a lift and 31's. they are great tires, mine had at least 30k to 40k and still look new, 80% tread easily (alignments, and rotations done regularly) great traction in chicago area. every set i sell is loved by the buyer.

there's a new hankook to look into thats supposed to be pretty sweet, my boss just put them on his truck, they're an all terrain i forget the name now though. hankook has made some really nice tires for really great prices so far.
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Is your ride auto or manual?? I just picked up a 99 2.5 auto and it came with 265 75 R15's and it is a dog (worse then the average 2.5). The guy I got it from said that he lost half the power when he went to that large of a tire. The height obviously raises the gear ratio and the width just sucks up horse power. I am not sure where you start loosing power but I am going back to a smaller tire when these wear out. Probably a 225. I don't do any off roading so the ride and being able to make it up a hill is more important to me then the looks of the bigger tire. ( I love how it looks with these tires but it can't get out of its own way when I hit the slightest grade or hill on the road)
Your 2.5 must be the problem. I have a 00 2.5 auto with 31's and it accelerates fine up hills or not. Just don't expect to be racing people (you shouldnt anyways, its a jeep)
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What tires did you have before the REVO 2's?

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They were the original Goodyear Wrangler ST's 225/75/16's. I purchased my KJ used & it had 34,000 + mi. on it so I assume they were the orig. set.They really sucked on wet, snow,& ice. (they were quite worn tho).
I got the rig from a dealer & made sure they included new tires in w/ the deal, ( my choice) luck have it they carried Bridgestone/Firestone's & installed also.
I had some time to decide so I got on-line @ Tirerack.com & did some research
and read all the reviews + dealer highly rec. the BS Revo 2's.
Tire rack's overall rating gave Fstone dest. A/T top & Revo's #2, frankly I liked the reviews & the more agressive tread pattern the Revo's have over the Dest. tire.


This is just my opinion but I'm sold on Revo 2's so far.
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I have over 30k on Revos that I put on my Tacoma, they have been great and look like they are good for at least another 10k. I have the Hankook Dynapros on my diesel truck and really like those also but only have a few thousand miles on those. As for my Jeep I put BF Gooodrich AT's on it I got a good deal on them and always like their looks.
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Had the AT Revos 31"s ... they were a great tire .... lasted just under 40k. They were great tires in all weather conditions and the limited offroad that we have in RI.

When it was time, I replaced them 31" Destinations .... a whole lotta dollars less. They are equally good in most weather, slightly less in the snow, but nothing of concern. They have been great in the sand on the beach.

So ... for a DD that is mostly on the road, the Firestones have been a better value.
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Had the Firestones on my old Toyota. They were great on and offroad. They were 235/75/15. I would get them again.

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