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Old 03-16-2012, 02:19 PM   #1
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Mishimoto VS Mopar

Are the mishimoto aluminum radiators worth the price or should I stay with the cheaper stock Mopar radiator?

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Old 03-16-2012, 06:36 PM   #2
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They are very nice but I would want to run a 1 row, not a 2 row. At that price range you can get a Griffin 1 row that would probably out last your Jeep. Will it cool better than OEM? Couldnt tell you, wouldnt have to worry about the plastic tanks leaking though. For me, where I am I would run another OEM, thats whats in mine and has been flawless, so if and when it fails, another like it will replace it. That said in the bush of Oz, if money was no object Griffin would be the choice.

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I got very lucky and got a mishimoto radiator with a set of their hoses for FREE they wanted my jeep for a test fitting since they came out with new design but i love mine looks nice in the good and havnt had any problems with it over all great radiator. Only thing is if you have a auto gotta get a trans cooler.

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I got very lucky and got a mishimoto radiator with a set of their hoses for FREE they wanted my jeep for a test fitting since they came out with new design but i love mine looks nice in the good and havnt had any problems with it over all great radiator. Only thing is if you have a auto gotta get a trans cooler.
Looks sick. You really lucked out on the hoses. I've priced them at their shop and on eBay. They're quite expensive.
Did the radiator you got come with brackets. I've seen the radiators with and without brackets. (without brackets are $40 cheaper) My stock radiator has brackets for my manual jeep.
How was the installation?
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The OE radiator has an all aluminum core, that's what I would run since it is less $$$. Not to mention the TJ cools a little better with the 1 row design of the OE radiator. More rows does not necessarily equate to better cooling, the intended use of the vehicle has more to do with which (more or fewer rows) works better. The TJ originally came with a 2 row radiator but Jeep switched to the 1 row 2000-2001 or so.
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Looks sick. You really lucked out on the hoses. I've priced them at their shop and on eBay. They're quite expensive.
Did the radiator you got come with brackets. I've seen the radiators with and without brackets. (without brackets are $40 cheaper) My stock radiator has brackets for my manual jeep.
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I have no idea man I didn't install it had to drop my jeep off at a shop and they did all the work since it was a test fit. But I really lucked up! The radiator is like $440 hoses are other $130 I think and I got a trans cooler since mine is an auto n that was other $100ish all for free.
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If you look at pictures of the radiator they have posted on the site its a diffident design then what i got in mine. Maybe thats way they did a test fit cause the one i got the design is better.
http://www.mishimoto.com/97-06-jeep-...diator-tj.html
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If you look at pictures of the radiator they have posted on the site its a diffident design then what i got in mine. Maybe thats way they did a test fit cause the one i got the design is better.
http://www.mishimoto.com/97-06-jeep-...diator-tj.html
Ive checked out that model. That's the one without the brackets. When you installed it did you just use the pre existing brackets that hold the radiator and shroud in place?
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Hi All,

Mishimoto here. We saw this thread and wanted to pop in and give you a preview of our new Wrangler Radiator that will fit both the TJ and YJ models.




Surferbob - the radiator in Manny's Jeep is our brand new design. We have designed our own brackets to ensure fitment from 87 all the way up to 2006 models. Our radiators also come with a lifetime warranty including accident protection, so your purchase will last as long as your Jeep, no matter what.

Manny, how are you liking yours so far?

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

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IThe radiator is like $440 hoses are other $130 I think and I got a trans cooler since mine is an auto n that was other $100ish all for free.
Also, the model fitted on Manny's Jeep was a prototype that did not have a trans cooler integrated. Our shelf unit will come with a trans cooler in the rad along with 3 pairs of fittings to adapt to all of the available automatic transmissions!

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Hi All,

Mishimoto here. We saw this thread and wanted to pop in and give you a preview of our new Wrangler Radiator that will fit both the TJ and YJ models.




Surferbob - the radiator in Manny's Jeep is our brand new design. We have designed our own brackets to ensure fitment from 87 all the way up to 2006 models. Our radiators also come with a lifetime warranty including accident protection, so your purchase will last as long as your Jeep, no matter what.

Manny, how are you liking yours so far?

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

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Your description on the site show it to have a 2 row core but it doesn't say how wide the tubes in each row are. How wide are the tubes?
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Hi All,

Mishimoto here. We saw this thread and wanted to pop in and give you a preview of our new Wrangler Radiator that will fit both the TJ and YJ models.

Surferbob - the radiator in Manny's Jeep is our brand new design. We have designed our own brackets to ensure fitment from 87 all the way up to 2006 models. Our radiators also come with a lifetime warranty including accident protection, so your purchase will last as long as your Jeep, no matter what.

Manny, how are you liking yours so far?

Feel free to contact us if you have any questions.

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I love mine so far it's great no problems at all! Always trying to get people to buy it such a great radiator! Thanks again for everything! I'm trying to save up now and buy your x line radiator for my 1996 eclipse gst to help with heating problems in the summer!
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Your description on the site show it to have a 2 row core but it doesn't say how wide the tubes in each row are. How wide are the tubes?
The tubes measure 2mm by 22mm, fit into a 50mm core.

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I love mine so far it's great no problems at all! Always trying to get people to buy it such a great radiator! Thanks again for everything! I'm trying to save up now and buy your x line radiator for my 1996 eclipse gst to help with heating problems in the summer!
Glad you're happy, thank you again for working with us! Be sure to get in touch when you're ready for the Eclipse rad
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still waiting

manny is lucky, I have been waiting about a year for my replacement radiator with brackets from Mishimoto, hope it comes soon!!!
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Old 03-28-2012, 08:07 PM   #15
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Also, the model fitted on Manny's Jeep was a prototype that did not have a trans cooler integrated. Our shelf unit will come with a trans cooler in the rad along with 3 pairs of fittings to adapt to all of the available automatic transmissions!

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Do you offer discounts for Wrangler Forum members?

Also do you make an upgraded electric fan for this combo for those of us who prefer electric?
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Except for Jeeps that do lots of water crossings where being able to shut the fan off is important, why anyone would prefer an electric fan is totally beyond me.
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Except for Jeeps that do lots of water crossings where being able to shut the fan off is important, why anyone would prefer an electric fan is totally beyond me.
You answered it. Just trying to look at all the options. It's all personal preference. I know your in the dry part of Cali and see why you don't use them. There are pro's and cons with both mechanical and electric.
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You answered it. Just trying to look at all the options. It's all personal preference. I know your in the dry part of Cali and see why you don't use them. There are pro's and cons with both mechanical and electric.
Yes, there are pros and cons. The pro is mechanical works to cool rigs and electrics don't really. The only way you can get away with an electrical is if you live where the cooling system doesn't have to work very hard.
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The tubes measure 2mm by 22mm, fit into a 50mm core.

Glad you're happy, thank you again for working with us! Be sure to get in touch when you're ready for the Eclipse rad
Will I be getting a sweet deal when I do! Saving money is always a great feeling! :-) haha and you guys are very welcome took us a year of emailing to get it done but happy to Be able to help!
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Yes, there are pros and cons. The pro is mechanical works to cool rigs and electrics don't really. The only way you can get away with an electrical is if you live where the cooling system doesn't have to work very hard.
We actually ran Electrics in Arizona which have extreme temps as everyone knows It's all in the design of the system. A certain mfg made some excellent Ford setups that we used. Really made the difference for us as well as saving us gas because of not having to use the HD fan Clutches which will drop your mileage 2mpg due to the extra drag. Not sure why it is different in a Jeep but thanks for the info and will definitely make a note of it.
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We actually ran Electrics in Arizona which have extreme temps as everyone knows It's all in the design of the system. A certain mfg made some excellent Ford setups that we used. Really made the difference for us as well as saving us gas because of not having to use the HD fan Clutches which will drop your mileage 2mpg due to the extra drag. Not sure why it is different in a Jeep but thanks for the info and will definitely make a note of it.
I've seen precisely 1 electric set-up cool in our harsh conditions here in SoCal and it was well over 600 bucks, required cutting up the core support, and was not an installation for the faint of heart.

Other than that, the rest have been miserable failures in the Jeep TJ IF you need a system that works. Some folks in lesser climates can get away with it, we can't. Don't get me wrong, we aren't AZ hot, but it's common for days in a row of 110 and 115 degree heat here.
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Not to mention there is no free lunch where the energy require to turn a fan is concerned. If the fan isn't putting a load on the engine via a drive belt, it is putting a load on the engine by its added load on the alternator. The more electrical load on an alternator, the harder the alternator becomes to turn.
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Just installed a mishimoto radiator into my TJ today and I absolutely love it. I spent little time on the install as I used the brackets from the old stock radiator. Spent the rest if the day trying to get the jeep to HOT. Gotta say compared to the stock radiator this mishimoto blows it outta the water. I might've had a crap stock but so far so good with the mishimoto. I'll keep ya posted.
I live in queensland Australia where a winters day is 22 degrees celsius (72 f).
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Just installed a mishimoto radiator into my TJ today and I absolutely love it. I spent little time on the install as I used the brackets from the old stock radiator. Spent the rest if the day trying to get the jeep to HOT. Gotta say compared to the stock radiator this mishimoto blows it outta the water. I might've had a crap stock but so far so good with the mishimoto. I'll keep ya posted.
I live in queensland Australia where a winters day is 22 degrees celsius (72 f).
They are bad. A s a radiators! Love mine!
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Drove around all day yesterday in 33 degree heat (91 degrees Fahrenheit), top down, sunny beaming down on the black jeep. The temp climbed to operating temperature and the thermostat opened. The needle never moved again. Trust me I was working it on the beach.

I've been trying to solve this heating problem forever after I took it on the beach and it heated up REALLY quick.
Problem solved. Yes!!!
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Mishimoto automotive is the Best

my new Mishimoto Radiator with mounting brackets arrived yesterday and it was beautiful. I installed it today and what an improvement in cooling, it is truly a piece of artwork. Simple install.
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Last post on the subject. 2 hours of highway driving with the air conditioning blasting, in 28 degree celsius weather (full sun). Temp needle didn't even move after the thermostat opened.
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Last post on the subject. 2 hours of highway driving with the air conditioning blasting, in 28 degree celsius weather (full sun). Temp needle didn't even move after the thermostat opened.
AC? Who uses that? That's what top down is for lol
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AC? Who uses that? That's what top down is for lol
Ha ha ha. I know. Usually love it but had my fiancé's sisters baby in the car. You're absolutely right though. Lol
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mishimoto & 180degree thermostat

05 tj rad failed. Installed Mishimoto rad & 180 degree thermostat in spring time. Result 10 degrees decrease in temp. OK that said, I live in Florida and as summer arrived I noticed 220 degrees reading. That's 10 degrees above normal 210 with stock rad. Pulled my boat in summer and got reading of about 230 degrees. What is going on and should I change back to stock 195 degree thermostat? Looks like thermostat is staying open and radiator nor cooling enough. I am running 50/50 rad fluid and royal purple water additive. I also changed to new thermostat housing and new sensor. Sensor from Advanced Auto. Help please, I thought I covered all bases.

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