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Old 02-12-2013, 02:01 PM   #1
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Money down the drain

PO wired 5 Hellas in the front and they have barely worked and I've tried to fix it but they wired it so crazy I finally brought it to the shop and its gonna cost $150 to have it wired properly.

$150 I could have towards some rocksliders. People need to learn twir limits

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Old 02-12-2013, 02:07 PM   #2
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why not find a relay diagram and do it yourself, rely's are not that hard and if the wire is ok then u have a little to start.. also.. iv got hella's the the stock bulbs in them suck even with them wired right

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Do you really need a bunch of lights anyway? I have Hella 500s only because someone gave them to me for free. I find them totally unnecessary unless you're doing desert running or something.
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Copper wire is expensive. I bet its $50 in wire and relays and $100 labor to do it right.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:22 PM   #5
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The PO has it jacked up so bad that I honestly don't know how he has the wires running. He has relays but its a mess. Before I even got there they said they would just fix the wiring if its one spot(old friend mechanic) he looked at it and so did 3 others and they couldn't figure out how this guy set it up.
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Do you really need a bunch of lights anyway? I have Hella 500s only because someone gave them to me for free. I find them totally unnecessary unless you're doing desert running or something.
I plan I switching them out but if its wired properly then when I get the money putting better lights will be simple.

I used them all the time at night. And it looks good haha
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do they stay on? is the wire fried at all? are they just too dim?
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I plan I switching them out but if its wired properly then when I get the money putting better lights will be simple.

I used them all the time at night. And it looks good haha
Im no electrician, but i would imagine that changing configuration, brands, wattage would require a different wiring set up, or at the very least heavier gauge and relays. 5 high wattage lights would have quite the power draw I would think.

Im sure someone will correct me if im wrong.
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Im no electrician, but i would imagine that changing configuration, brands, wattage would require a different wiring set up, or at the very least heavier gauge and relays. 5 high wattage lights would have quite the power draw I would think.

Im sure someone will correct me if im wrong.
The person before left all the wires bare, different size gauges wires connected, no butts just electric tape to connect them. The whole thing was screwed from the beginning and a hazard.

So I'm having my mechanic ripe all that out and run it properly with one size wire and everything
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The person before left all the wires bare, different size gauges wires connected, no butts just electric tape to connect them. The whole thing was screwed from the beginning and a hazard.

So I'm having my mechanic ripe all that out and run it properly with one size wire and everything
sounds like a good idea
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The person before left all the wires bare, different size gauges wires connected, no butts just electric tape to connect them. The whole thing was screwed from the beginning and a hazard.

So I'm having my mechanic ripe all that out and run it properly with one size wire and everything
I would just make sure that the new wire gauging and relays are heavy duty enough to operate the set up you want to upgrade to so that you dont end up having to do things twice if thats possible.

I would think worst case you could run heavy gauge wire and then just swap out the relays when/if you upgrade.

But i could be wrong lol
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I have hella black magic and find them very good.
One thing to know though is that the relay for the hellas is wired differently from american lights. When I switched vehicles I took the hellas off to xfer to my jeep and had a hell of a time getting them to work as I had lost the wiring diagram.
I finally switched them over to an american relay not a german relay that they come with. Diagrams are very numerous on the web and that is what I used. Now they work great. So save your money because it is so easy even I can do it
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Why dont you just tare out everything he did and start fresh and new. I am an electrician and sometimes its much easier and cheaper if you just tare everything out and do it the right way.
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Why dont you just tare out everything he did and start fresh and new. I am an electrician and sometimes its much easier and cheaper if you just tare everything out and do it the right way.
I am going to guess it is because he knows his limits, and doesn't want toi be like the PO. I know I would do just what you said. Take all the wiring out and start from fresh. That way it doersn't matter how bad the PO did it.

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