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Old 06-05-2007, 10:21 AM   #1
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More headlight questions.. Scout?

Alright, first of all, can anyone tell me if theres any major differences between IPF and Round Eyes lenses?

Second, I asume the fatboy bulbs are worth the extra cost?

Finally, do I need the wiring harness right away with the IPF H4 lenses/Fatboy bulbs, or can I go a month or 2 without it?

Did you get the harness Scout, or are you runing without it?

Which harness is the most economical? I am a poor man (hense the stockness..) but these headlights aint cuttin it

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While I know I am no replacement for Scout I do have a little bit of experience with the IPF headlights.

I would buy the IPF e Codes and fatboy bulbs over the Round Eyes. Reason? I won a set of Dome lights from round eyes on Pirate. Even that was a bad experience.

The Fat Boy bulbs are great. I have them in Anya's jeep and I have the Magic Bulbs in mine. Both have the same housings. The Fat Boy bulbs are tremendous over the Magic Bulbs on low beams. On high beams the Magic bulbs take it.

I have Anya's set up for lots of light with both conditions. Her Fat Boys put out tons of light on low beam. I installed a set of IPF 968s at the same time so the high beam would be equally as impressive. I did not run the IPF harness for her headlights. I don't think it is worth the extra bank.

Check out suvlights.com They have a cheaper harness that is very beefy in terms if wiring and connectors. I wired one up on Dirks jeep and you can really tell the difference. You can run the replacement bulbs and lenses without upgrading the harness.

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I appologize mr. cliff, I actually did mean to include you also since you work with DPG (I thought anyway). Either way, I mentioned scout more for his opinion on the harness than anything else, but thank you for chiming in anyway Thats how I want mine also. High powered low beams/fogs and aux lights for highbeams

So. IPF housings with the fatboys. Different harness later on. Check.

Is Quadratec the cheapest place to get them right now?

EDIT: Didnt see a Jeep specific on suvlights, which one do I want, and what mods are nessesary to get it working mr.cliff?
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He pretty much hit the nail on the head with his post. I do run the harness but that's only because I didn't know there was another option (until now).

Quadratec? From my experience they're usually one of the most expensive places to buy from once you factor in shipping. I'd give Dirk a call at DPG. He carries them and his prices are good too.
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I have the IPF and H4 bulbs in mine (from DPG). Incredibly bright. I never really need the high beams, but I also have the Mopar fogs and a set of IPF 968's mounted higher that will turn night into day.

I used the stock harness for the IPF headlights and my own wiring for the 968's.

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I appologize mr. cliff, I actually did mean to include you also since you work with DPG (I thought anyway).
EDIT: Didnt see a Jeep specific on suvlights, which one do I want, and what mods are nessesary to get it working mr.cliff?

I actually don't work for DPG. I'm just really good friends with Dirk because of the jeep thing. But I get tangled up in the mix. I am actually a flooring contractor.

Either or, jeeps are my hobby/passion and you guys get the run over of both. LOL!


Last time I used one of the suvlight harnesses I went with the universal wiring harness. It will require some creative wire looping and plenty of zip ties. Where as the IPF harness is designed specifically to fit into your jeep. If that is worth the extra money I say go for it.
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I dont mind zip tying anything up, as long as the connectors are the right ones etc. I dont want to be cutting up a harness I paid for, mine as well just make one if it comes down to that

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I would buy the IPF e Codes and fatboy bulbs over the Round Eyes. Reason? I won a set of Dome lights from round eyes on Pirate. Even that was a bad experience.
So because of pirate? That is a legit reason to ditch Roundeyes product? Or is IPF actually a better product?

I would love to hear something more then just a give away gone bad statement. I would love to hear some real REASONING......not as bright, stubbed thumb during installation, shocked myself, etc, etc, etc.

To make a statement saying "because of Pirate I don't do this" is a bunch of BS IMO. Pirate has over 100K members of which probably 20% actually wheel. You try and keep track of things under those circumstances and tell me how well you do??

Anyway my only "bleep" with this post is lack of substance. If you are gonna diss a guys product over another, I think it would be relevant to have a better reason than Pirate for making a statement ANYWHERE, and here as well.

So lets have some data, some real world experience and not opinions based on one BB or another and what they have done to you. Rather data based on numbers experience and opinions of people here who wheel and use the products.

For the naysayers to my opinion. I work in the industry (everyday), I installed a set of IPF's on a customer rig yesterday and I own roundeyes headlights, rocklights and dome lights. I am happy with all three. The IPF's are nice as well, but unless someone has some numbers we are all screwed, because that should be the only determining factor. Not someones bad experience at a website.
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I dont mind zip tying anything up, as long as the connectors are the right ones etc. I dont want to be cutting up a harness I paid for, mine as well just make one if it comes down to that

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FWIW I didn't have to cut up the harness to install the IPF lights. The bulb plugged right into the existing TJ 3 pin. It was on a 06 Rubi LJ with a Hemi that we just put in along with 40K worth of other bling.
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Ya I understand that mr. Rockodile, I was referring to the Universal headlight wiring from www.suvlights.com. I eventually want to get the wiring kit so I can A. Incease wattage to my headlights and make them less prone to burning out the wiring/switch inside stalk B. Lower overall wattage used by the circuit so I have more juice for other stuff and C. just plain be safer to run 100 watts on a circuit meant for it, than one meant for 60

Since you have seen both Mr. Rockodile, do you think there was a noticable diffence other than the round eyes being DOT? Did one seem clearer than the other, or seem to create a better pattern than the other? I am going to buy one of the two today, but if I am going to be paying off a 150 dollar light purchase for 3 months, I want to make sure I do it right
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My gosh.. The more I look into this stupid lighting thing, the more opinions I get!! Cibies, Round Eyes, IPF, they all seem like good options. The Cibies are supposed to have a better light pattern, and be MADE for trucks, where as the IPF and Round Eyes are supposed to be aimed too high on high beam since they are designed for cars

The RoundEyes appear to be the clearest lens, with the IPF coming in second. The RoundEyes also have a gortex breather, that lets heat escape (heat is the #1 cause of bulb failure.. paid $22,000 for that info!) and also allows them to be sumerged for a short period of time. I hope this isnt a problem, but then again, if I sink my rubi, I think the headlights are the least of my concerns.

BAAAH Im so lost on these stupid headlights, and I really just wanted to order a set today and get rid of my stupid yellow ones
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So because of pirate? That is a legit reason to ditch Roundeyes product? Or is IPF actually a better product?

I would love to hear something more then just a give away gone bad statement. I would love to hear some real REASONING......not as bright, stubbed thumb during installation, shocked myself, etc, etc, etc.

To make a statement saying "because of Pirate I don't do this" is a bunch of BS IMO. Pirate has over 100K members of which probably 20% actually wheel. You try and keep track of things under those circumstances and tell me how well you do??

Anyway my only "bleep" with this post is lack of substance. If you are gonna diss a guys product over another, I think it would be relevant to have a better reason than Pirate for making a statement ANYWHERE, and here as well.

So lets have some data, some real world experience and not opinions based on one BB or another and what they have done to you. Rather data based on numbers experience and opinions of people here who wheel and use the products.

For the naysayers to my opinion. I work in the industry (everyday), I installed a set of IPF's on a customer rig yesterday and I own roundeyes headlights, rocklights and dome lights. I am happy with all three. The IPF's are nice as well, but unless someone has some numbers we are all screwed, because that should be the only determining factor. Not someones bad experience at a website.
First? If you'd like to hear more information why don't you politely ask instead of the pirate more-holy-than-thou attitude? I don't have to keep track of the members on pirate. Either the E wheelers of the real wheelers. Obviously that seems to be your cup of tea.

Where did I say pirate was the reason? Roundeyes was the reason. I just happened to win a set of their junk on pirate through a giveaway they sponsored! Pirate has nothing to do with it. I am not going to diss roundeyes headlights and from my readings over lighting I found that their headlight choice is top notch. However, my experience with their customer service was horrible. All 4 times I had to call to get my product that they gave away on pirate I just felt like telling them to keep it and give it to someone else. Now after actually getting their product and installing it on my wifes jeep I actually feel robbed of my time. It isn't as suggested on their website. It doesn't perform past anything I think it should and I have uninstalled it and put that part back to stock.

I think you need to get off pirates cock for a minute. If you love it so much why don't you pony up for the red star and support the board? Don't come to another board, defend one that you like, and push blame onto other members because they said something bad about another instance you completely took out of context.

If you would like to get into a pissing match we can take it up on pirate where said conversation is the norm. If you feel like you need to contact me here PM me and keep it out of this thread. If you would like to continue this thread with your opinion I would encourage that as well. More opinions are what this web forum is all about.
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So Mr. Cliff, do you have any experience with RoundEyes headlights, or just their other products? As much praise as I have heard over Curbbie or w/e, I am not too interested in tracking down a part and then not being able to find something later when I need it.

Now I am between IPF and RoundEyes. Delta is out, and so are the cheap nock offs. Like I said before, RoundEyes looks clearer, but IPF is sealed (not sure thats really a better thing yet). I like the look of the round eyes better (Clear lense as opposed to the patterns all over the glass) but I think those patterns are for a purpose are they?

Is there really this big of a difference, or should I just order the darn IPFs and deal with it?

Finally, are the IPFs E-rated or what? I havent seen any website say they are E-Rated or DOT. I really want E-Rated lights instead of DOT, and I deffinatly dont want something not rated at all.

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I have seen the roundeyes lights in person only during the day time so I can't compare the two side by side. I also believe unless you sit each jeep next to each other and view them at the same time, minding each jeep is exactly the same in respects to wiring, battery, and bulbs, you would be really hard to tell the difference between the two as far as light output. Light patterns will be different and that should be easy to tell.

I haven't compared the two different housings to each other. I have only compared IPF E code housings, with an optima yellow top in each, and the different IPF bulbs. That is where I base my opinions. The fat boys with e code housings, ipf relay, and a yellow top were considerably brighter and cleaner than my yellow top, e code housings, and magic bulbs. Their lense is designed to give you a specific pattern for driving. I have no problems with the patterns I get as it illuminates tons of the road in front of me. But I haven't compared lense to lense so the roundeyes could be french toast and I just don't know it. LOL!

The e-code rating is not DOT approved. For awhile IPF went to a non E Code housing that was DOT approved. Enough people complained about the difference and their sales went down. So they switched back to the E-Codes. I wouldn't run anything other than the clear lense like the roundeyes, or the E Codes like the IPFs. As you can tell, with my jeep, I don't really care about the DOT

The IPF lights are easy to get at any number of dealers. ARB is smart with their product distribution so you can get those housings at any one of their dealers across the nation. The price is right and I know some of those dealers that left me feeling like a floating cloud.
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Alright, I ordered a set of IPF-920H housings and the fatboy bulbs. I couldnt find any website that said weither they were E-Code or not, DOT, nothing. The E-Codes that you bought, were they the IPF-920H model number?

Thanks everyone so far I dont have a lot to spend, so when I do I make sure I am not saving up over weeks for nothing
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WOW Rockodile, wake up on the wrong side of the bed or did someone piss in your corn flakes? either way calm the hell down. if you have a difference of opinion on a post then just share your opinion on the matter dont tear into someone elses! i have been on here around a year now and thats the first time i have seen somethin like that. although seeing you get that upset over something so small kinda gave me a laugh so thanks. anyways, thats just not how we roll on here...

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WOW Rockadile, wake up on the wrong side of the bed or did someone piss in your corn flakes? either way calm the hell down. if you have a difference of opinion on a post then just share your opinion on the matter dont tear into someone elses! i have been on here around a year now and thats the first time i have seen somethin like that. although seeing you get that upset over something so small kinda gave me a laugh so thanks. anyways, thats just not how we roll on here...

mr. cliff - keep it up, if i have a ? about things i always make sure and take in what people like you scout, and jerry, have to say it.

x2 I learn more from Scout, Jerry and Mr. Clifford (along with a few other ones here) than I did at school or in the field Makes me wish I had just paid them instead..
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WOW Rockodile, wake up on the wrong side of the bed or did someone piss in your corn flakes? either way calm the hell down. if you have a difference of opinion on a post then just share your opinion on the matter dont tear into someone elses! i have been on here around a year now and thats the first time i have seen somethin like that. although seeing you get that upset over something so small kinda gave me a laugh so thanks. anyways, thats just not how we roll on here...

mr. cliff - keep it up, if i have a ? about things i always make sure and take in what people like you scout, and jerry, have to say about it.
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x2 I learn more from Scout, Jerry and Mr. Clifford (along with a few other ones here) than I did at school or in the field Makes me wish I had just paid them instead..
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I would buy the IPF e Codes and fatboy bulbs over the Round Eyes. Reason? I won a set of Dome lights from round eyes on Pirate. Even that was a bad experience.
What exactly does this tell us?

I deduced that either you had a problem with Roundeye or Pirate. And in all actuality you didn't have any relevant information on headlights but rather "DOME LIGHTs" until my lame post cornered you into giving information.

You can call me whatever you like whenever you like. But in my opinion no matter what you do I think it would be a wise idea in the future to only post things that have relevance, like "I wouldn't buy from Roundeye because I received poor customer service". Or, "Those lights do not put out nearly the candlepower of the IPF lights". We the readers only get the info you give, if we get bad info we can make rash decisions and blatantly post irritating and worthless words like I did.

I have been owned

At least you put some substance into the post though by giving actual information other then "Roundeye sucks dude". That is much better information. As for butt"Pirate" .com, I go there because they have the FOTR information posted in the Rubicon trail section. I don't go to the other forums on that board as can be seen by my whopping 19 posts since 2004. And I certainly wouldn’t waste $20 a year to have a star next to my name.

So since this has ruffled so many feathers and pissed off so many folks I think you should ban me! That is the best thing you could do!!
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So since this has ruffled so many feathers and pissed off so many folks I think you should ban me! That is the best thing you could do!!
Rock, You have a PM. There won't be any banning needed. Everyone's opinion is equally valued around here. There will always be times when shit flies we just run this board in a manner where hopefully it won't stick and cause ill will towards others.

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