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Old 02-01-2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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More Light at night!!!

Ok guys & gals I want more light when driving. I replaced my stock lights with Hella E codes but I would still like more light especially off to the right side of the road. I managed to hit 2 deer within 4 weeks of each other recently. So should I get fog lights or do driving lights? Since I do not have stock fog or driving lights will I have to do a complete wiring for these?

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Old 02-01-2013, 06:43 PM   #2
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I have a set of 6" hella 5000 driving lights on mine. I wired the relay into my high beams. They are super bright and have been told they weren't street legal but I always hit the lowbeams when meeting oncoming traffic. I got em about 5 years ago from autozone for $75.

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Old 02-01-2013, 08:57 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advice I think I will look at advanced tomorrow for some driving lights.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:43 PM   #4
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fog lights have a short, wide pattern
driving lights have a longer, narrow pattern

i would say fog lights would be the better option for your bumper.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:21 AM   #5
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2 deer in 4 weeks? I love in the middle of elk country, dd a geo with bad head light len's, bad night vision and haven't hit one (deer eyes shine in light unlike elk). so my first bit of advice is SLOW DOWN and pay attention. I'd look at truck lite leds or jw's. northridge has truck lites and rigid driving lights for $775.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by bondosgto View Post
...... so my first bit of advice is SLOW DOWN and pay attention.
THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

We see deer standing in the road and crossing almost every morning and evening. I have hit one, but it came down an embankment and ran into the side of the vehicle.

Our rule of thumb is: "Under 30 MPH" until we get out of the "congestion".
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:26 AM   #7
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Both deer I hit there was no way to avoid. The first one his feet never hit the ground when he jumped off the bank. Second jump from a bank out of a wooded area right into the windshield. I think maybe some fog lights directed towards the right side might be a better fit?
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:38 AM   #8
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i would suggest fog lights and upgrading your bulbs in your e-codes to the hella 80-100w bulbs. i run them on the stock wiring and have never had a problem and they produce alot more light than the 55-60w bulbs.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:17 AM   #9
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have you considered driving lights mounted on the A-pillars?? I love mine.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:27 AM   #10
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Try these. I loved mine while I had them but the owl that hit them decided to take them out after only 6 months of use...
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Old 02-02-2013, 01:29 PM   #11
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This formula will give you great lighting if followed carefully. The first thing you do is upgraded headlights, then foglights, and then reverse lights.

1) Replace the existing sealed beam headlights with aftermarket halogen headlights that use E-Code reflectors. In order of quality from best to worst brands are Cibie, Marchal, Bosch, and Hella. Avoid cheap Asian made reflectors.

2) Upgrade your Jeep headlight wiring with a new wiring harness or (if you know about wiring) install relays that run the lights straight from the battery. Use 12-guage wire if you DIY. Do this BEFORE increasing bulb size.

3) Go to this page and get upgraded H4 bulbs. Susquehanna MotorSports - Auto Performance Products Catalog

I like and use part number HL78159 which has 100w high beams and 85w Low beams. The other alternative if your eyes are age 60 or over is part number HL78142 which is 130w High beam and 90w Low beam. You can also find even brighter bulbs such as 250w/150w but I DON'T reccomend them because they produce too much light and spoil your night vision.

4) Print and use this exact aiming procedure while somebody who is approximately the same weight as you sits in your driver's seat. You MUST get the light cutoff right to avoid blinding oncoming drivers.

1) The stock Jeep foglights are preferred because they are very high quality and will accept 100w bulbs. Or use quality aftermarket foglights - avoid plastic lenses and reflectors in favor of metal reflectors and glass lenses.

2) Upgrade the stock foglight wiring with a relay and 12-guage wires.

3) Replace the 55w H3 bulb with a 100w H3 bulb. Grind off or cutoff the little tab on the bulb so it goes into the metal socket of the stock foglight. Most aftermarket foglights are already 100w or larger - and once again, avoid bulbs brighter than 130w. Also, avoid using multiple pairs of lights unless each pair is aimed in a different direction and the light patterns do not overlap. This is important to preserve night vision because it allows you to see things outside the headlight pattern. With too much brightness, your night visiion switches off and you can only see your light pattern.

4) Remove the stock foglights and notice that there are two holes in the bumper, there is a tab that goes into the rear hole and forces the aim to be straight ahead. Grind this tab off and re-mount the foglights, turning the aim outwards while monitoring the foglight pattern on a wall so that the lights barely overlap in the center. This gives you a light pattern 30 to 40 degrees wider than stock, real usefull on country roads to pick out animal eyes.

1) Remove the right taillight and attach a small wire to the harness for the reverse light, to operate a 12v relay. Use a cheap pair of aftermarket foglights mounted on the rear bumper as reverse lights. 35w or 55w lights both work well. Power the lights with a 12-guage wire all the way to the battery under the hood. Mount the relay from underneath the right corner of the Jeep in the space with the carbon canister for the fuel tank.

2) Open the taillight assembly with the four small screws in the red lens. Now using shiny aluminum tape carefully line the inside of the taillight to make a reflector that increases the brightness. The tape is the shiny peel-and-stick aluminum duct tape from the hardware store. Cover the black plastic surfaces with the shiny tape and call it done.

1) Mount HID auxilliary offroad lights on windshield mounts. Keep them covered while on the road to avoid tickets. Mount the switch on the dash in a spare switch slot. This is the only case where the 25w to 35w lights can use a switch with no relay.

It is important that you only use the superbright HID lights offroad, and in this case you are trying to produce daylight brightness around your Jeep, especially when rock crawling - you want to see every rock and rut.

Done. You will be astonished at the high performance lighting you now own, with no visible differences to attract thieves.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:14 PM   #12
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Thanks everyone for the great advice I am going to start with Hella 500 fog lights and go from there. I can alway add small driving lights to the pillars and upgrade my wiring and go with more powerful bulbs as needed. I love this forum I always get great feedback.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:56 PM   #13
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Crap!!! I ordered my Hella 500 fog lights but they are back ordered until March? This sucks because I'm impatient I want my cake and eat now not a months from now. So what other fog lights does everyone have that they like? Looking for something around $100-$120 and I need complete with wiring.

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