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Old 09-16-2010, 12:11 PM   #1
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I have a question for forum members, I am looking to buy a wrangler. I used to have dune buggy, wife misses going off road and now wants a jeep. So, I have 5k to spend and really looking for a rust free jeep, I am a mechanic and can fix anything else. I want to know the pros and cons of 4cyl vs 6cyl and what is the good and bad of YJ vs TJ?
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Some differences:
- TJ is the best Jeep ever.
- TJ has coil springs versus leaf springs on the YJ.
- as of 2003, the soft top is sailcloth, a superior material to the denim used in the past.
- a longer wheelbase TJ, the LJ, is available.
- sound bars and sound systems are better in the TJ.
Getting a TJ in good shape for 5K will be a challenge. They hold their value much better than a Lexus and about 10% better than a 4Runner based on KBB for my 2003 TJ Sport

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Some differences:
- TJ is the best Jeep ever.
- TJ has coil springs versus leaf springs on the YJ.
- as of 2003, the soft top is sailcloth, a superior material to the denim used in the past.
- a longer wheelbase TJ, the LJ, is available.
- sound bars and sound systems are better in the TJ.
Getting a TJ in good shape for 5K will be a challenge. They hold their value much better than a Lexus and about 10% better than a 4Runner based on KBB for my 2003 TJ Sport
If I do get TJ, it will be a 97 or 98, cant afford anything newer. Another question- do the four and six cylinder TJ's have the same axles and brakes? Or does the six have better axles? I am asking as I will be installing a V8 at some point in time. I have done 6 V8 conversions, all on YJ's in my shop. Last one had a 6.2 LS engine, trans and transfer case from a 2007 Escalade. It ate the axles in four weeks. Now has a dana 44 in front and Ford 9" in the rear.

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Between 97 or 98, I'd go for the 97 as the 98 lost a few features like the ability to display its own DTCs (diagnostic trouble codes) and a few other minor things. I would rather have my old '97 TJ that was stolen instead of my present '04.

The 4.0L and 2.5 engine-equipped TJs both came with the same axles and brakes, a Dana 30 up front and a Dana 35c in the rear. However, for the 4.0L equipped TJs, the Dana 44 was an optional extra-cost upgrade to the standard rear Dana 35c. So if you look, you may get lucky and find one that has the optional Dana 44 in the rear. The Dana 30 will be the front axle for all of them. Only the 2003 and newer Rubicons had a Dana 44 front and rear.
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Between 97 or 98, I'd go for the 97 as the 98 lost a few features like the ability to display its own DTCs (diagnostic trouble codes) and a few other minor things. I would rather have my old '97 TJ that was stolen instead of my present '04.
My 2003 has the "key dance" capability if that is what you are referring to. My 2003 also has the chip in the key. Somebody tried to steal it but, unlike your situation, they weren't successful although they caused over $2,000 in damages trying, new steering column included.

A half decent 1997 for $5,000 seems possible.
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1997 wrangler 4.0 auto trans. Warn winch, bumpers and rock gards, york air compressor. I paid 6500 for it.
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That is a great looking Jeep. How much lift and what size tires? Congrats.

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My 2003 has the "key dance" capability if that is what you are referring to.
Yes it does. But the '98 he was asking about does not.
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1997 wrangler 4.0 auto trans. Warn winch, bumpers and rock gards, york air compressor. I paid 6500 for it.
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My 2003 has the "key dance" capability if that is what you are referring to. My 2003 also has the chip in the key. Somebody tried to steal it but, unlike your situation, they weren't successful although they caused over $2,000 in damages trying, new steering column included.

A half decent 1997 for $5,000 seems possible.
Or have a personal gps, low Jack and if they steal. Track it down and take a crow bar to the robber.
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That is a great looking Jeep. How much lift and what size tires? Congrats.

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Hey Jeff,
It has a 6" lift, not sure what kind, still learning my way around Jeeps. i modify the drivetrains all the time in my shop, just know nothing about they rest. It has 35" nitto tires. It is going to get a Ford 9" with discs that is laying around in my shop and I am working on buying a LS engine, trans and transfer case for it shortly. I installed a 6.2 Escalade drivetrain in another Jeep with 40" tires, amazingly the GM drivetrain weighed less than the Jeep drivetrain.
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Sounds like that thing will be a monster by the time you finish.

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