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Old 05-04-2013, 06:02 AM   #31
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haha a plan that can't possibly fail

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Old 06-24-2013, 10:59 PM   #32
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I liked Dana's plan



But I bought a hard top since my wife has the iPad/head phones already.

I got it for 850 so...I might just keep it for the trip and resell it, we'll see. It makes some air noise right now but it's dark so ill investigate tomorrow.

I have a best top bikini top but was considering getting a spiderweb shade to use in the mountains instead so I don't have to transport the header. Any thoughts..? Does the spider shade flap at free way speeds?

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Old 06-24-2013, 11:18 PM   #33
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I respectfully disagree. Normally I consider your advice very sage but...
I have a 2001 4.0L 3spd auto, live at close to 9K and have excellent power with stock 3.07 and 31"s (no lift). 16-18mpg no matter how I drive it.
I travel Berthoud Pass, Eisenhower, Lookout, Kenosha... you know, all the fun mtn passes. I can do 70mph up these all day/any day with ease.
Geez... maybe I have a magic Jeep OR those CAIs actually ARE all they're cracked up to be after all... at least up here where I live anyway.
First off, I've no actual experience in CO. terrain but here in IN. we still have some rough countryside.
I have a '98 4.0 5sp with 3.73's and 33's and have no issues running 75mph uphill or down staying in 5th.
As for the actual trip, if you have trouble getting through or up something, don't forget 4lo
Straps, spare, e-kit, folding shovel and some Mt Dew is my usual travel kit. Gatlinburg, TN has some pretty awesome terrain, my baby never once batted an eye at rock, mud or hill.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:45 AM   #34
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anyone (perhaps UnlimitedLJ04) know the status of the Alpine Loop, Lake City, Ouray area with the fires going on up there?
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:57 PM   #35
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I'm leaving Saturday
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Old 07-03-2013, 06:49 PM   #36
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Be safe in your travels and have a great time.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:06 PM   #37
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Did the Alpine Loop today, had a blast.

What's the easiest way to post pics on here? It just asked me for a link...
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:19 PM   #38
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:20 PM   #39
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Got that on from my phone but have man excellent shots from my DSLR on my comp. any suggestions on easy ways to upload pics?
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Glad your enjoying your trip. If you have the chance stop by the Great Sand Dunes on your way back to I-25. I did it about 2 years ago and there are some great trails leading out of the back of the dunes up over the front range and bring you back into Walsenberg. I started off at 8 in the morning did the sand dunes, the trails and had a late lunch in Walsenberg before heading back to Texas. I got into Garland about 3 AM. Once you cross Texline on the way back you will be hard pressed not to turn right back around and go back to stay.
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I upload mine to Photobucket (or equivalent) and post a link to them. Some people use Facebook too.

Glad you are enjoying my home state. Wouldn't want to live anywhere else!

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:02 PM   #42
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Here's my LJ at the top of Engineer (also a test to see if my photobucket link works)

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:04 PM   #43
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My dad's truck on a switch back (pictures make trails look so easy)

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My wife and I at the top of Engineer


more to come from Cinammon, etc.

We also did a trail up to the ghost town of carson today-short but much more difficult than the loop on average (although parts of the loop were interesting...)
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:23 PM   #44
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nice pics.. keep em coming.. be safe!
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Old 07-13-2013, 06:26 PM   #45
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made the long drive home. The hard top ended up being invaluable because of some super high winds we saw in the panhandle and E. NM. The top is so much quieter than my soft top, especially in the wind, that it kept us sane on that long drive.

Anyways i know you guys want more pics and they will follow but here is my "alpine loop trip report"

We left Lake city about 8 am and went up Engineer. After some washboard dirt roads we came to the 4x4 recommended section. This first section ended up being some of the roughest we could face all day. Nothing extremely technical or difficult, just rocky and rough and a relatively shallow climb.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:19 AM   #46
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This trail brought up through the tree line to Engineer's Pass. This pass was my favorite view of the trip (and my favorite pic spot since I'm an Engineer), however I think I liked the Cinnamon trail itself better. The engineer pics are above (sorry, not many action shots were taken since I was the camera operator/driver...)

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Here is my wife and the jeep at the top.


Edit: now having trouble with photobucket photos going directly in the text ( posted first photos from a Mac, now on PC...any suggestions)
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:29 AM   #47
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The way back down Engineer towards Silverton got interesting fast when a dude in a 2WD trailblazer was right around the first corner. Like I said before these trails weren't terrible challenging... but I was in a Jeep where I could put it in 4 lo and basically just coast down the whole way or idle up the little obstacles or steep parts here and there. Doing this thing in a full size 2WD SUV would be have been pretty interesting to say the least. We made it down to Animas where there is an old abandoned mine and the 4WD part stops (or starts depending on your direction) and its basically a bumpy dirt road down to silverton.

Here's the whole group and our view at Engineer Pass

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Around this bend is where we saw the 2WD trail blazer. He asked "where does this trail lead"

I just replied "Lake City...eventually"

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We spent some time in silverton then got back on the trail across Cinnamon Pass back to the Lake City area. The first climb of this trail was the most technical we experienced. I found my skid plates a couple times on some of the bigger rocks/ledges but nothing serious. This is also when it began to sprinkle lightly so we didn't take many pictures on the way up. Here is a picture of my parents recreating a picture they took in my dads '76 CJ 5 (he still owns it, the original owner) in the mid 80's before I was around.
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This is some of the trail back down from Cinnamon (the views are why you do this road)

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Old 07-14-2013, 11:37 AM   #50
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another view of where we're headed

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and us at the pass
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A curious Marmot we met along the way (these guys are everywhere above the tree line)

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Old 07-14-2013, 11:47 AM   #51
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When the road down from Cinnamon got a little easier (basically a 2WD section on the side of a cliff) I let my wife drive. She was a little scared at first but once she got behind the wheel she had a blast. The only hard part is seeing over the steering wheel!

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It was during her time driving that we saw a Honda Civic on the trail. I know I said it was basically a 2WD road on the side of a cliff but you needed a 2WD with some clearance. They looked as if they were trying to turn around and let us pass while they stood there and looked up the road.


All in all its a great day trip. We took our time (especially on the way up) and took a lot of pit stops (3 women). We began between 8 and 9 and were back in Lake City ( I highly recommend the Lake City Café) for dinner. There were several "Nice" restrooms a long the way (the permanent composting variety) and while we saw lots of other groups, we were never being held up or holding anyone up. The only disadvantage to doing the loop is the high number of rental Jeeps and rental Side by Sides and 4 wheelers you run into. The people typically didn't understand passing and yielding and I can guarantee the brake life on a rental jeep up there is next to zero because on the way down I'd be in 4 LO and some dude would pass me just hopping along looking miserable, bouncing all over the place and riding his brakes.

We didn't go to Colorado just to do the trail riding so I didn't do a lot of the side trails off of the loop or the other passes in the area. I would have loved to have done Imogene, etc and maybe even black bear (although I hear you need a little bit "bigger" of a jeep to get over one obstacle there) but we had other things to do like ride horses, fish, etc.

The one side trail we did do was the trail to Carson - a ghost town along Mills Creek outside Lake city. Pics to come.
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The Carson trail was a LONG 4 miles. It was steep and in some parts to bumpy to be fun but lots of parts were fun, including the ghost town. You could continue on to what I believe is called Wager Gulch and the continental divide... but some weather was coming in and we didn't know what the trail contained and didn't want to get stranded. Here is my wife and jeep at the ghost town, you can see the weather coming.
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in an abandoned structure

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Anyway, I will likely get back up there again. My family used to camp in Creede growing up so I hope to have many more opportunities to explore up there but this was my first with my jeep. I'd highly recommend it to anyone - even the most novice jeeper, just be smart and careful.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:02 PM   #53
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I forgot to talk about the road trip portion. In between Creede, CO and Clayton, NM (1 tank of gas) I got a WHOPPING 19.95 MPG (on 85 octane no less). Obviously the downhill helped, and we must have had a good tail wind but this is the best I've ever gotten in a tank and I had a hard top, 2 people and a cargo area full including my rear seat.

The next tank was the windy tank and I got a whopping 14.5, more than a 5 gallon decrease because of a head wind... this perfectly describes the aerodynamics of a jeep...

Having a hard top did make a huge difference like I mentioned before. Additionally the ease of access when travelling is a huge bonus. Getting in and out of the cargo area without unzipping anything is almost worth the $850.
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That looks like good times.. I am happy for you and jealous.. just sent the wife an email with a link here to encourage her to want to go to Colorado as well
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haha, that's awesome.

My wife had a great time and she had never done anything like that before.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:24 AM   #56
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Glad you had a good time! I'm from Colorado Springs and love that area.

As to Black Bear, I did it last year with my daughter in our 97 stock Wrangler. Just had to be really careful in one area.

I'd also highly recommend the Montezuma area near Breckenridge. Saints John, Webster Pass, Swan River trails are all awesome. And you can enjoy Breck/Keystone etc. And Argentine Pass, Santa Fe Peak...all good stuff. Nice intermediate. I really like the Wells book for the rating guidance.

In addition, stuff over Hoosier Pass from Breck (Mosquito Pass and trails near Fairplay) are great as well.

I have real good luck jeeping mid-week. Lots fewer people on the trails. From August 10th through Labor Day weekend is especially dead...

Happy Trails!

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