This is not a flame.
I am not trying to insult anyone. I am just looking for some answers before I buy a Jeep.
I am considering purchasing a TJ to use as my daily driver.
I would have thought that the fuel mileage would have been better than what it is. (Not counting roughing it on a trail, etc.) Just normal 2WD driving.
It would be a normal assumption to expect poor MPG while in 4WD. After all, the idea here is to have fun. I have no problem with that.
I presently own a 2002 F-150 Super Crew Cab XLT that gets around the same MPG, city & highway. Is this due to the non-aerodynamic design of the jeep? Of course, my truck isn't aerodynamically shaped, either.
I just figured that, since the Jeep is a smaller vehicle, has a 4.0L (instead of my 4.6L), is a 6-cylinder, instead of my 8 cylinder, I thought that the Jeep would get better fuel mileage.
Again, this is not meant to be a flame.
I like the Jeep.
I am looking forward to getting one in the near future.
If bad fuel mileage is the way that it is, then so be it.
I'm already doing that with my truck.
At least in the Jeep, I'll be doing it with class.
Bought a 2005 LJ 5 months ago for a DD. 4.0L I get 17 to 18 pretty consistently, no matter what I'm doing. 19.5 if I draft a truck on the Interstate.
Running without doors and the top is awesome- -can't do that in a Prius!
Oh, and the Just Empty Every Pocket phrase....well its true. You're either buying something you want to install, or something you need to install. But they are a pretty basic machine, so most things you can do yourself.
(My wife's DD is a Prius - gets 50 MPG, for a CAFE of 33.5MPG.)
The engines in Wranglers are very very reliable, the payoff is they are very inefficient. Aerodynamics play a huge role as the large straightup front end and windshield is just a giant brake, kinda like the flaps on wings of planes they raise during landing. The Jeep is fighting the air pressure just to traverse the highway. Look at the big V8 in the Corvette getting 25-28mpg. The engine only has to do its job without having to worry much about fighting the air the car is driving through. Put that same engine in a Jeep, it will get nowhere near the same mpg. It's just the nature of the beast.
They are heavier than they look, too... ~4300 lbs, I believe. Mileage is not great, but there are trades that make it worth it. Fun factor, reliability and they are just unstoppable. Also, you can make it uniquely yours. There are buy-and-bolt addons, but the vehicle is basic enough that you can make your own additions for looks or function. I don't dispute your economy statement. You are quite correct. All I can say is that for me, it's a good trade.
I bought an 03 Wrangler Sahara, with the 4.0,and the automatic transmission, and Im averaging 18-19 mpg just driving around the county, and up gravel roads in the mountains. I thought I died and went to gas mileage Heaven ! My 07 f-250 only gets 12 with the same kind of driving.
98 4L manual, non-dd, 3inch lift on 31's with 3.73 gears, always comes in 18.5-19. I live about 25 miles from town and I use the jeep to run in once a week or so. Also I really don't run the jeep over 65mph, I usually take the 2-lane highway into town 55mph road.
1998 TJ-4L-5sp, 3inch Black Diamond W/ 33's GY Duratrac on MT Classic III's., Warn 8K# Winch.
I have an 05 with the 4.0 and 6 speed. At first i got about 15 while I was learning the gearbox, but now I get around 18 or so. I've found that leaving the top on adds about 2-3 mpg, but where's the fun in that?