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Old 07-24-2014, 10:15 PM   #1
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Mud in my headlights

Went wheeling pretty hard last weekend. Returned home and found that both headlights were half full of mud. Not muddy water, but MUD. When I bought the jeep it had some type of conversion from the sealed units to a KC housing and Phillips H4 bulbs (I think that's correct). I've tried doing some research but I have no clue when it comes to the lights. The rubber gasket that somewhat seals the housing and bulb is completely shot on each. I'm definitely going to have to replace the housing or go back to sealed units. Tried cleaning them to no avail. What is an inexpensive alternative? The bulbs are good but the gasket is shot. I don't even know what they are compatible with.

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Old 07-24-2014, 11:13 PM   #2
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When I got my Heep, the PO had a set of halogens in place of the OEM lights. Failed me on the state safety inspections so I had to replace with factory lights so I could get her registered ( the Heep used to live in Pa where aftermarket headlights were allowed, but in order to get her registered in Nanny State Maryland, I had to have factory headlights).

I have never had problems with the factory lights at all.

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Old 07-25-2014, 02:00 AM   #3
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I'm thinking of going back to a sealed bulb, but I would like to keep something similar just for the sheer light output compared to stock. Not sure if it's easier to replace the KC housing since my bulbs are good or what?
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And I'm wondering why/how the mud got in to begin with. Guessing it had to do with rotted rubber gasket. I'd like to avoid that in the future.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:27 AM   #5
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The only opening should be the bulb opening and that should not be much of a gap to begin with. "Mudd" should not get through there. Remove the housing and submerse in water/flush the the inside out/washs with a lot of soapy water. Hopefully there will not be a lot of residue/film left on the inside of the lens and reflector. There is no way to really get anything in there to wipe it off.
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Old 07-25-2014, 02:48 PM   #6
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The only opening should be the bulb opening and that should not be much of a gap to begin with. "Mudd" should not get through there. Remove the housing and submerse in water/flush the the inside out/washs with a lot of soapy water. Hopefully there will not be a lot of residue/film left on the inside of the lens and reflector. There is no way to really get anything in there to wipe it off.
Agreed. Already tried cleaning the housing. Pretty sure they are goners. Wondering if I should go back to stockers or buy new housings. I'm guessing the bad gaskets were on the housing and not the bulbs... I'll have to go look
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Yes, the gasket is part of the housing with H4s. I certainly wouldn't recommend going back to stock, but I would recommend replacing the KCs with a glass e-code housing such as Hella, IPF, or Bosch. That, and maybe avoid scenarios where you're deep enough in mud to get up to the headlights anyway
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Completely remove the headlights and give the bulbs a quarter-turn to unlock and remove them from the enclosure. Then just hold the headlight enclosure so the opening is at the bottom and flush them out with a garden hose. Voila, no more mud inside. Yep you may end up with water spots inside from the garden hose water but if you give the insides a final rinse with distilled water from the grocery store, there won't be any water spots left inside.

Do not touch the glass on the bulbs with your bare fingers. Oil from your fingertips will cause a lot spot on the glass which can pop the bulb. If you do touch the bulb glass, just wipe it clean the bulb surface with something like denatured alcohol.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:53 PM   #9
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Thanks for the tips. I've already taken the housing out and tried cleaning with water, more water, hot water, dish detergent, and even a camelbak bladder brush. Must not looking good. Also, the bulbs were secured in the housing by a funky metal clip. It wasn't the usual quarter turn and pop out scenario. The rubber gasket from the housing is shot. Looks like I need to find new ones that the bulbs will fit in, that is unless I buy those new also.
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The clips are normal for H4s as well.

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