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Old 10-18-2010, 10:16 PM   #1
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Mudding question

Hey everyone! So, first I want to say that I understand when you off road your jeep you run the risk of breaking something. Is there anything you Jeepers do before you go off roading (specifically mudding) to help keep damage to a minimum? I don't do anything crazy and I still find myself breaking something every time I go off road: u-joints, sway bar links, driveshaft, wheel bearings, ball joints, etc.

My jeep has 140,000 miles on it. Could this be a factor for all the broken parts? Oh and sometimes it takes months for it to break but it always happens after I mud it.

Any help is appreciated! I love off roading but it's putting a dent in my poor college student budget
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Hey everyone! So, first I want to say that I understand when you off road your jeep you run the risk of breaking something. Is there anything you Jeepers do before you go off roading (specifically mudding) to help keep damage to a minimum? I don't do anything crazy and I still find myself breaking something every time I go off road: u-joints, sway bar links, driveshaft, wheel bearings, ball joints, etc.

My jeep has 140,000 miles on it. Could this be a factor for all the broken parts? Oh and sometimes it takes months for it to break but it always happens after I mud it.

Any help is appreciated! I love off roading but it's putting a dent in my poor college student budget
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Maybe skid plates? Reinforce the parts your breaking with stronger ones? You shouldn't be breaking things tho
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ok, just coming back today from playing in the mud I could say a few things. many times I went by myself and never got stuck, BUT today a buddu of mine came and we got both stuck !! so if possible go with somebody so if 1 get tsuck the other can pull you out.
everytime I go off road , I check all my fluids level, then go to gas station, fill her up, buy a couple bottle of water and snacks (everytime) then buy an extra gallon of windshield fluid .
have a tow strap, a low profile jack, some 2x4 or 2x6 (for the jack to have a good plateform and not sink in the mud. a folding shovel (miltary style works good) a cell phone. on my to buy list is ( if I can found them) some "sand rail" that can be placed under the tire for grip when stuck. a locker for the front will also be on my whish list.
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I forgot, the fact to have some rock slider is nice as you can use the jack right there and dont have to go all the way under the car !
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Drive your friends jeep and you can break all the stuff you want without breaking your budget!
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ok, just coming back today from playing in the mud I could say a few things. many times I went by myself and never got stuck, BUT today a buddu of mine came and we got both stuck !! so if possible go with somebody so if 1 get tsuck the other can pull you out.
everytime I go off road , I check all my fluids level, then go to gas station, fill her up, buy a couple bottle of water and snacks (everytime) then buy an extra gallon of windshield fluid .
have a tow strap, a low profile jack, some 2x4 or 2x6 (for the jack to have a good plateform and not sink in the mud. a folding shovel (miltary style works good) a cell phone. on my to buy list is ( if I can found them) some "sand rail" that can be placed under the tire for grip when stuck. a locker for the front will also be on my whish list.
A mini ladder style tire ramp works better IMO.
You Jack it up and place it under the tire and the tire has instant traction.
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Common issue that occurs after I go mudding: squeaking or a high pitched chirp. For example right now when I accelerate in reverse (only happens in reverse, and only when I release my clutch and give it gas) I hear a loud squeak from the rear of the jeep. Any ideas? Now I haven't gone mudding in a couple of months because of the fear of ruining something else. You guys mud in 4 high right? Could I possibly be cleaning it wrong? I'm confused because you guys say you never break anything, but something always breaks on me.

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I forgot, the fact to have some rock slider is nice as you can use the jack right there and dont have to go all the way under the car !
ummm. you broke the cardinal rule!


Here's my perspective. At 140k, you have to expect stuff to break. Whether its due to being worn out, or you being to hard on it I cannot say, but things wear out.

Once you replace it, it shouldn't break again, if it does you either cheaped out on parts, or you are too heavy on the skinny pedal.

Best way to clean it is to get a sprinkler that sprays in a moving arc. move it every 10 mins or so. I got my under carriage impressively clean this way.

Grease things with Grease fittings.

My 01 has 128k on it. The only things I have replaced are items that wear out. (water pump, and Clutch). I wouldn't blame my offroading for either of them breaking.
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Common issue that occurs after I go mudding: squeaking or a high pitched chirp. For example right now when I accelerate in reverse (only happens in reverse, and only when I release my clutch and give it gas) I hear a loud squeak from the rear of the jeep. Any ideas? Now I haven't gone mudding in a couple of months because of the fear of ruining something else. You guys mud in 4 high right? Could I possibly be cleaning it wrong? I'm confused because you guys say you never break anything, but something always breaks on me.

Sorry for all the questions, but I've read enough on this forum to know that most of the people on here are jeep geniuses thanks in advance!
Bro it sounds to me your wheelin too hard!! This is a well known fact that if your wheelin with buddies you tend to want to wheel a little harder because either your friends are aging you on or you want to show your bros I can do it, I wheel mine on all kinds of terrains mostly trails and rock, but I have done alot of mudding to which I really don't like because I hate the clean up later! But usually the offroad parks I go to around my area you have to go through some killer mud and water to get to the trails you want, and I haven't broke a part yet!! With the mileage your jeep has you might want to replace the parts that are breaking with stronger parts and NOT go back with OEM!!! The way your suppose to do it like me and my bros build rock crawlers and stuff on the side and what you do is you go wheel it hard then you find your weak links and replace with bigger better and stronger parts, then wheel it hard again and repeat the process until no more parts are breaking on you! Then you will have a pretty strong jeep that you can wheel as hard as you want and you don't have to worry "am I gonna break something when I go", then again the old saying goes in the jeep world, "if your not breakin parts then your not wheelin hard enough" LOL, oh and believe me dude your not the only one that gets a little nervous when your about to go out wheelin, we all do!! But don't let it scare you man it's all part of owning a JEEP PIGGY BANK!!! Because your constantly putting money into it!! Have fun and keep it wheelin.

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ummm. you broke the cardinal rule!


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Bro it sounds to me your wheelin too hard!! This is a well known fact that if your wheelin with buddies you tend to want to wheel a little harder because either your friends are aging you on or you want to show your bros I can do it, I wheel mine on all kinds of terrains mostly trails and rock, but I have done alot of mudding to which I really don't like because I hate the clean up later! But usually the offroad parks I go to around my area you have to go through some killer mud and water to get to the trails you want, and I haven't broke a part yet!! With the mileage your jeep has you might want to replace the parts that are breaking with stronger parts and NOT go back with OEM!!! The way your suppose to do it like me and my bros build rock crawlers and stuff on the side and what you do is you go wheel it hard then you find your weak links and replace with bigger better and stronger parts, then wheel it hard again and repeat the process until no more parts are breaking on you! Then you will have a pretty strong jeep that you can wheel as hard as you want and you don't have to worry "am I gonna break something when I go", then again the old saying goes in the jeep world, "if your not breakin parts then your not wheelin hard enough" LOL, oh and believe me dude your not the only one that gets a little nervous when your about to go out wheelin, we all do!! But don't let it scare you man it's all part of owning a JEEP PIGGY BANK!!! Because your constantly putting money into it!! Have fun and keep it wheelin.

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Thanks for all the tips,it will help a lot!! Now, I did seem to notice that once I put lift/tires/wheels on, more things started to break, but please realize that I'm not one to wheel too hard lol. I have no hub caps on my wheels, will that let more crap seep through and damage things? When I ran it stock it seemed fine
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ummm. you broke the cardinal rule!

Here's my perspective. At 140k, you have to expect stuff to break. Whether its due to being worn out, or you being to hard on it I cannot say, but things wear out.

Once you replace it, it shouldn't break again, if it does you either cheaped out on parts, or you are too heavy on the skinny pedal.

Best way to clean it is to get a sprinkler that sprays in a moving arc. move it every 10 mins or so. I got my under carriage impressively clean this way.

Grease things with Grease fittings.

My 01 has 128k on it. The only things I have replaced are items that wear out. (water pump, and Clutch). I wouldn't blame my offroading for either of them breaking.
Another good way to clean the undercarraige is to winch the jeep vertical (tie the winch to a tree) and then just let it pull up till about a 60-70 degree angle then spray with high pressure washer
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Thanks for all the tips,it will help a lot!! Now, I did seem to notice that once I put lift/tires/wheels on, more things started to break, but please realize that I'm not one to wheel too hard lol. I have no hub caps on my wheels, will that let more crap seep through and damage things? When I ran it stock it seemed fine
No problem bro!! Now do u mean u have no center caps on your rims? If so then it could cause some because you gotta keep those bearings clean where your axle shafts go in! Unless you have the manual locking hubs there then obviously you can't have a center cover! Now the covers won't seal completely meaning if your doing heavy mudding your still gonna get some in there but as in the previous post when doing cleanup you need to make sure all your moving parts are cleaned and any part with grease fittings need to definitely be cleaned and regreased!! LOL that's the price you pay when you wanna play in the MUD!!
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Thanks for all the tips,it will help a lot!! Now, I did seem to notice that once I put lift/tires/wheels on, more things started to break, but please realize that I'm not one to wheel too hard lol. I have no hub caps on my wheels, will that let more crap seep through and damage things? When I ran it stock it seemed fine
Also YES!! Putting on a lift and larger tires and wheels you basically found your weak links in the drive train, now just buy and put on better heavier duty parts and you shouldn't have any problems!!
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Thanks again hostile! Any thoughts on that squeak I'm hearing from my rear? I took it to a shop ( i trust them and they specialize in jeeps) and they said nothing is wrong with it but I hear it big time, especially in the morning
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Thanks again hostile! Any thoughts on that squeak I'm hearing from my rear? I took it to a shop ( i trust them and they specialize in jeeps) and they said nothing is wrong with it but I hear it big time, especially in the morning
Hmmm.. Maybe a squirrel is nesting back there!! Lmao just kidding, probably just something need to be lubed or greased up!! When do you hear it? Like while moving forward or backwards or what? Also does it stop after it warms up and you've been driving it a while or does it do it all the time?
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Hmmm.. Maybe a squirrel is nesting back there!! Lmao just kidding, probably just something need to be lubed or greased up!! When do you hear it? Like while moving forward or backwards or what? Also does it stop after it warms up and you've been driving it a while or does it do it all the time?
Lol. It only happens in reverse but only when i accelerate. It doesn't do it if I just roll back
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Another good way to clean the undercarraige is to winch the jeep vertical (tie the winch to a tree) and then just let it pull up till about a 60-70 degree angle then spray with high pressure washer
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You could have a seal that isn't sealing very well. I've also had small rocks get in between rotors and dust (mud?) shield.

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Common issue that occurs after I go mudding: squeaking or a high pitched chirp. For example right now when I accelerate in reverse (only happens in reverse, and only when I release my clutch and give it gas) I hear a loud squeak from the rear of the jeep. Any ideas? Now I haven't gone mudding in a couple of months because of the fear of ruining something else. You guys mud in 4 high right? Could I possibly be cleaning it wrong? I'm confused because you guys say you never break anything, but something always breaks on me.

Sorry for all the questions, but I've read enough on this forum to know that most of the people on here are jeep geniuses thanks in advance!

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