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Old 03-12-2008, 11:12 PM   #1
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My 1st Jeep experience is not good so far.

I just bought my 1 st jeep Saturday. Its a 97 4.0l sport. with 112 k Its black with a 4" lift.Ipaid $5500.00 . Now the issues, The owner went mudding and lost the gas cap and mud found its way to the tank . That means it sputters when you give it alot of gas. I dropped the tank yesterday and put a new fuel pump and drove it around the block and it runs great . that made me happy.Today is a diffrent story, Idrove it 1/2 mile and it died and would hardly run . I had to pull it home. Found it only has 15 psi . Iguess Ifound the only bad fuel pump .Yes I did buy it from oreillys auto parts.So I will be pulling the tank tomorrow and changing it out again? And the suspension well it feels like the back end sways left to right when you hit dips in the road. It feels sloppy. like not a stiff ride. You can rock it back and forth real ez by hand so you can amagine how it is on the road.This is my first time in a jeep so I hope they ride better and feel safer than the one I purchased.Any Ideas because I am ready to ride.

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Old 03-12-2008, 11:21 PM   #2
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did you also install a new fuel filter? perhaps the filter is plugged.

the back sways left-to-right on bumps. that´s normal because of the trackbar.
when the axle goes up and down it also moves a bit to the right or left.

the front axle does the same in the other direction.

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Old 03-13-2008, 12:10 AM   #3
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Well its not gonna ride your stang, buddy. But its deff. an addiction and a way of life. A lifted Jeep rides differently than a stock height vehicle but unles your takin corners at 60mph you'll probably be fine. Just what comes with the vehicle. Congrats on your purchase!
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Old 03-13-2008, 12:32 AM   #4
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Not to be insulting but make sure the rear (and front) swaybar is connected. Also, good shocks go a LONG way in ride improvement. Sounds like you're almost finished with "Phase 1" of the Jeep initiation. Good luck.

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Old 03-13-2008, 12:35 AM   #5
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There are several things you can do to make it drive and ride better though. My fried had a 2000 with a 4 inch lift and 35 and it was downright scary to drive. I now have a 03 with 5 inches of lift and 35 MT's and it's not that bad at all, not stock granted but not bad. It all depends on what you use and how you use it. I have probably one of the cheapest pieced together lifts but with the right components it can still work well. There are many people on here to help and they can point you in the direction of what is wrong and how to fix it. Good luck!!
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:37 AM   #6
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check if it has a swaybar connected in the rear. I have a 3.5-4'' lift and it rides verywell.. a lot stiffer than stock. but it does wobble when you go over bumps or ditches on the road.. its because to the front and rear double axels...


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Old 03-13-2008, 01:51 AM   #7
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you think there was a possibility of mud in the gas tank and all you did was replace the fuel pump? like said above, for sure replace the fuel filter, but also, while you had the fuel tank down, couldnt you have "flushed" it some how? i know crud can sit and settle at the bottom of a tank, ive never done it before, but theres gotta be a way to clean it out somehow.
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you think there was a possibility of mud in the gas tank and all you did was replace the fuel pump? like said above, for sure replace the fuel filter, but also, while you had the fuel tank down, couldnt you have "flushed" it some how? i know crud can sit and settle at the bottom of a tank, ive never done it before, but theres gotta be a way to clean it out somehow.
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and the back end on my TJ doesn't sway at all when I hit bumps, but i did catch a little air once going through an intersection. Make sure your front and rear swaybars are connected
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Old 03-13-2008, 02:26 AM   #9
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drop the tank, go to the gas station and just spray it with the nozzle zoolander style.. works like charm

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dont worry though, once you fix the problems, you will love that thing, i enjoy everything in my tj besides the crappy gas mileage
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dont worry though, once you fix the problems, you will love that thing, i enjoy everything in my tj besides the crappy gas mileage
trip.. whats up with the plexiglass bumper mod you were going to do for better mpg?
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well now i installed the bigger tires, i gotta go through at least 1 tank of gas to see what mpg i'll be getting with the new rubber. (that is the 2nd tank of gas but my first one was 1/2 highway so i cant count that)
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Old 03-13-2008, 07:30 AM   #12
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the mud in the tank problem was addressed above, the side to side sway could be trackbar related as above but you need to check and see if the rear trackbar mounts into a bracket at the axle and see if it has worked loose. Mine did a couple of times before I welded it and would cause the rear end to "wag" like a tail.
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I will check on the sway bars today when I drop the tank . I did clean the tankwell by rincing out with fresh gas and sponging up the excess until clean.Now there is a filter connected to the bottom of the pump, Thats the only filter I seen. Is there a filter somewhere else that I dont know about.I really appreciate everyones experienced input on my situation I owe everyone a Bud light , but you have to come to Houston Texas. Thanks
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Carefull offering up the Bud Light, you will have 40 guys showing up at your door tomorrow night.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:40 AM   #15
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There is only one fuel filter and it is attached to that super expensive fuel pump tower, there is no in-line filter between that and your intake plenum. Check for a recall on your vehicle, mine was replaced for free.
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There is only one fuel filter and it is attached to that super expensive fuel pump tower, there is no in-line filter between that and your intake plenum. Check for a recall on your vehicle, mine was replaced for free.
This implies, an after market fuel pump.
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CERTAIN AFTERMARKET AIRTEX ELECTRIC FUEL PUMPS INSTALLED FOR USE AS REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT FOR CERTAIN 1997-2004 JEEP WRANGLER; 1997-2001 JEEP CHEROKEE; 1997-2004 JEEP GRAND CHEROKEE; AND 2000-2003 DODGE DAKOTA VEHICLES. THE PLASTIC ELECTRICAL GROMMET CONNECTORS AT THE TOP OF THE FUEL PUMP MODULE ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AUTOMOTIVE FUELS AND MAY DEGRADE CAUSING A POTENTIAL LEAK PATH FOR FUEL.

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There is only one fuel filter and it is attached to that super expensive fuel pump tower, there is no in-line filter between that and your intake plenum. Check for a recall on your vehicle, mine was replaced for free.
how expensive is the fuel pump?
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how expensive is the fuel pump?
Its $110.00 +- I just checked a couple of weeks ago when I thought I needed one. That was at NAPA
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that was how much I thought it would cost.. average price.. motocycle pumps are double the price; but then again it is just a bunch of plastic...
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well now i installed the bigger tires, i gotta go through at least 1 tank of gas to see what mpg i'll be getting with the new rubber. (that is the 2nd tank of gas but my first one was 1/2 highway so i cant count that)
Damn I wish I went that long between tanks.
1 tank lasts me exactly 2.5 days. Fill up monday morning on the way to work which will last me until wednesday night on the way home.
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:17 PM   #21
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Scoob maybe you should do the test lol
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:39 PM   #22
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Life is getting a little better. I installed the new fuel pump yesterday , so it is working fine. I also installed my new side steps . now I am just waiting on ups to deliver my new fender flares. It looks funny driving around with no flares. Thanks for the info everyone.

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