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Old 03-11-2012, 09:10 PM   #1
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my lift idea tell me what you think

Im about to order my lift, just need your oppinion.. First off, I have a 2000 sahara 6 cyl 5 speed.

Im looking for a 2.5" lift so rought country 2.5" with shocks was one choice but I keep hearing that that kit rides rough. Plus going that route I may get vibrations and other problemes.

So i figured the the smaller the suspension lift, the less problems I may have.

So I saw a bb that is 1.5" without using the factory insulators and includes 4 bump stop extensions. With this low lift i can keep my shock witch saves me $$$ as my shocks are still verry good.

Then I would add a 1" body lift for my total of 2.5" of lift

Total cost would be less than $300 witch my walet loves.

Does my idea make sence? Would I need a mml? If so would that help eliminate anny vibrations I may get?

Anny input on this would be great

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Old 03-11-2012, 09:17 PM   #2
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You shouldn't get any vibrations with that little suspension lift. IMO it seems more reasonable for you to get the BB as opposed to the suspension lift. You will save money and your jeep will still ride good(I have no experience with the RC 2.5 lift FYI). Is this to fit bigger tires?

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Old 03-11-2012, 09:46 PM   #3
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You shouldn't get any vibrations with that little suspension lift. IMO it seems more reasonable for you to get the BB as opposed to the suspension lift. You will save money and your jeep will still ride good(I have no experience with the RC 2.5 lift FYI). Is this to fit bigger tires?
yes its for bigger tires. I bought 31" kumho road ventures.
Im going to join a 4x4 club so ill be using the jeep off road on weekends but still wanna keep the plush ride it has now.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:57 PM   #4
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Get the 2" skyjacker bb with hydro shocks, if you go with a bb. The shocks are lower end, but ride exceptionally well.

It's very doubtful you would get any vibration with a 2" bb . But if for some strange reason you did a mml, or a couple washers between the frame and the skid would fix it.

I just hope you didn't pay to much for the tires. The kumhos don't last very long.
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Unless your trying to go to 33's or looking for rock crawling travel (which IMHO requires longer shocks and springs), just do a 2 inch body lift. I've run 32's for most of my Jeeps life doing this (98 TJ). I don't rock crawl though, if I did I'd go with longer travel options.
The 2'" body lift required a 1.25 or 1.5" engine lift at the motor mount. I dont remember the exact height, but I also had to move the fan shroud higher (no biggee), and an extension for the shifter or drive selector (4x4,4x4lo,etc). Mines an automatic, manual may be easier. I did all of these by myself over a weekend. Extra set of hands would have been helpfull, but none were available. The engine lift was easy and simple. You need a floor jack or course. This is done to negate possible driveshaft vibrations. Never had an issue.
A body lift keeps your center of gravity lower, thats a good thing. If your rock climbing though, you want wheel travel. You can only increase that by new springs and shocks to match. Beyond the disconnects anyway.

Not sure you will keep your cushy ride if those kumbo road ventures are the MT version .
Could of sworn 31's would fit stock with just some minor mods, would have to do some research on that.
Those MT versions look interesting.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:40 AM   #6
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2" body lift is no something I would ever suggest on a tj. I would never go over 1.25" . Especially if you have a manual transmission. You also get more body roll with that tall a body lift. They also look awful!
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Unless your trying to go to 33's or looking for rock crawling travel (which IMHO requires longer shocks and springs), just do a 2 inch body lift. I've run 32's for most of my Jeeps life doing this (98 TJ). I don't rock crawl though, if I did I'd go with longer travel options.
The 2'" body lift required a 1.25 or 1.5" engine lift at the motor mount. I dont remember the exact height, but I also had to move the fan shroud higher (no biggee), and an extension for the shifter or drive selector (4x4,4x4lo,etc). Mines an automatic, manual may be easier. I did all of these by myself over a weekend. Extra set of hands would have been helpfull, but none were available. The engine lift was easy and simple. You need a floor jack or course. This is done to negate possible driveshaft vibrations. Never had an issue.
A body lift keeps your center of gravity lower, thats a good thing. If your rock climbing though, you want wheel travel. You can only increase that by new springs and shocks to match. Beyond the disconnects anyway.

Not sure you will keep your cushy ride if those kumbo road ventures are the MT version .
Could of sworn 31's would fit stock with just some minor mods, would have to do some research on that.
Those MT versions look interesting.
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Look meaty, will be interesting to see how many road miles they will do. As you have already guessed, 31's will fit with NO lift. You may have rubbing on the swaybar at full lock, the amount of rubbing will depend on the back spacing of your wheel/rim. Did you put those on the stock wheels? That's what they look like in the picture. Thought those would be to narrow.
As to a body lift, to each their own. Some people abhore them. Done correctly, they can be an advantage. I see my Jeep as a machine, to be tuned towards its optimal setting for an intended purpose of my design. I wanted ground clearance and low center of gravity. Larger tires and body lift were the best for this. Would I go 3"? No, I couldnt fit 35's doing that alone with out sheatmetal mods. If I had wanted 35's I would still combined the spring and body lift (but probably only have needed to use a 1"). Done properly a body lift has many advantages. Gaps caused by a body lift are an astetic thing, they can be overcome with a little thought and fabbing. BTW, the engine lift also has the benefit of getting your oil pan up an inch or so.
I have seen a 98 TJ that ran 35's without any lift. But he totaly cut apart the front and back wells to do it (along with some other mods to the back end). Me, I would have never done that! But it was his Jeep. Enjoy yours (and lose those plastic bumperettes.

did you change the speedo? It's like a 15 dollar part and takes about 5 minutes.
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Look meaty, will be interesting to see how many road miles they will do. As you have already guessed, 31's will fit with NO lift. You may have rubbing on the swaybar at full lock, the amount of rubbing will depend on the back spacing of your wheel/rim. Did you put those on the stock wheels? That's what they look like in the picture. Thought those would be to narrow.
As to a body lift, to each their own. Some people abhore them. Done correctly, they can be an advantage. I see my Jeep as a machine, to be tuned towards its optimal setting for an intended purpose of my design. I wanted ground clearance and low center of gravity. Larger tires and body lift were the best for this. Would I go 3"? No, I couldnt fit 35's doing that alone with out sheatmetal mods. If I had wanted 35's I would still combined the spring and body lift (but probably only have needed to use a 1"). Done properly a body lift has many advantages. Gaps caused by a body lift are an astetic thing, they can be overcome with a little thought and fabbing. BTW, the engine lift also has the benefit of getting your oil pan up an inch or so.
I have seen a 98 TJ that ran 35's without any lift. But he totaly cut apart the front and back wells to do it (along with some other mods to the back end). Me, I would have never done that! But it was his Jeep. Enjoy yours (and lose those plastic bumperettes.

did you change the speedo? It's like a 15 dollar part and takes about 5 minutes.
Ya I bought factory steel rims for $50 set of 4. The rims that came with my jeep are 16" and I wanted 15" rims cause tires were less expensive and wanted 2 set of tires. They do rub so im ordering 1 1/4 inch spacers.

As for the mml ya it is a benifit as it tucks in the engine 1 inch higher so thats another bonus.

Bumperettes lol well to be honest they dont bother me, if I break 1 while forwheeling then ill take them off.

Speedo gear, I havent looked into it, Least of my worries.
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yeah, bumperettes were one of the first things done back when TJ's first came out. at least by some people. Guess we tried to make them look a little more CJ ish, but it also provided a storage space for the hilift bar. The speedo gear, goes into the topside of the transmission. Just a wrench turn to do. Basically the reason for it is to just change the teeth to match your wheels and gearing, so your speedometer is more accurate. Saves on tickets. But if your stock wheels were 30" or close and you just went to 31's it may not be worth the trouble. there used to be a calculator on the web somewhere that you could use to figure out the change.
The best wheels I ever bought were genuine Alcoa 15x10's. Not sure if they even make them anymore. Light, strong and near perfect backspacing for Jeeps.
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:35 PM   #11
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I ran a 2" re bb and it served me well. You can throw on a bl and upgrade to 33's with no real problems.

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