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Old 08-17-2007, 10:35 AM   #1
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my new bias baja claws

I replaced the 35" MTRs that were on my jeep with these Bias Baja Claws. I really liked the MTRs, they wore great on the road, aired down to 6 or 7 psi and theyd still hold a bead. They grips pretty good at that air pressure on the rocks but the sidewalls were not their strong point.

I had plugs in 3 of the tires and patches on the other two. I've replaced two of the MTRs since I've had them in a little under a year with new ones because of sidwall cuts... and those two now have the plugs in them.

So when it came time for new tires I went with the Bias Baja Claw. A couple of my friends Joe (Absolute Offroad) and JD (Crawldad) have the competition baja claws and they are they best tire out there for the rocks. the rubber compound is like glue but they would litterally wear out in a week from driving on the road. So I decided to get the regular Bias instead of the Comp. The comp are also close to around $400 per tire so thats another reason.

The 35" bias claws run a little shorter than most other 35" tires. I rolled one of my old mounted MTRs up next to my new mounted 35" claw and the MTR was larger. I'd say the Claw is closer to a 34" tire but not as small as a 33.

Here's some pictures after I got them home and experimented with air pressures...

I aired down these new tires down to 7 psi and I couldn't tell any visual difference between it the tires aired at 25psi.

7 PSI:



and here is 25 psi shown below...



so I aired down to 5psi and I still couldn't see any visual difference...
5psi



an MTR aired down that low would've looked very much flat. Good news is these 35" bias claws Aired down to 5psi are going to give me about the same clearance as a larger aired up MTR...

they need to be broken in I think and should still flex and wrap around the rocks. I'll let you know if I like them or not after a months or so.


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It was my impression that MTRs were supposed to have a much tougher sidewall than other radials. You must spend a bunch of time in the rocks and really stress the sidewalls. It will be interesting to see how these hold up for you, my guess is much better due to the bias ply construction.

I also think they should bulge more after the sidewalls soften up some, but not as much as a radial.

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your gonna hate those bias plys on the road if your on it much. a friend of mine has bias pit bull rockers and he loves them wheeling and hates them everywhere else. he will never buy a set of bias again. he has 37s i believe.
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Old 08-17-2007, 01:22 PM   #4
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Not to hijack this thread, but since we're talking about the Baja Claws, does anyone have any experience with the radials? Were the radials not an option for you....why the bias? Just curious. I'm looking at getting a set of 33's soon and would like as much feedback as possible.
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-edit- By the way, that is one mean looking Jeep you have there!! Very cool.....
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I made this decision because with radials I was getting less 20k miles per tire because of cut sidwalls. And not just the sidwalls. One of my MTRs tread blocks was completely ripped away from the tire leaving a 2" patch of cords showing. Amazingly it still held air. SO the tread willdefinately wear faster with these bias, but the tire carcus(sp?) itself will hold up much longer.

The only other radials I was considering were Super Swamper TRXUS or IROK. The Irok radial was a little too large for my jeep and the TRXUS were on backorder so I made a last minute decision. But those were the only radials I was considering whose sidewalls wouldve stood a chance considering how my MTRs were ending up. I had TRXUS MTs previous and was very happy with them.

I'll keep this thread updated occaisionally with photos after more trail and road use.

*edit: talk to Jack (1blkjp) about the radial claw... him and joe are running them on some of their jeeps. They are also a great tire and Jacks radial claws did better than my MTRs aired at 6 psi on Axle alley. I considered them but went with the BIAS just because I wwas sick of ripping up the radials... it was a give and take decision.
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That's cool. I was just wondering about the radial Baja Claw and its wear characteristics.

Definately keep us posted as to your experience with the bias plys.

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Cavediver - do a search for Scout and Claws, he's running them on his Rubi.
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Old 08-17-2007, 03:23 PM   #8
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That's cool. I was just wondering about the radial Baja Claw and its wear characteristics.

Definately keep us posted as to your experience with the bias plys.

The bias tires have stronger sidewalls than the radial. Although, typically, the radials wear better on the street. He's stating that he had issues with torn or cut sidewalls with his last set of radial tires and that's why he went with a bias ply.

The Mickey Thompson Baja Claw radials are good tires for the average weekend warrior and the daily driver.
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The Mickey Thompson Baja Claw radials are good tires for the average weekend warrior and the daily driver.

That's what I wanted to hear.....
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That's cool. I was just wondering about the radial Baja Claw and its wear characteristics.

Definately keep us posted as to your experience with the bias plys.

diver, I'm running radial Claws and I beat the shit out of them. I think it's the best radial tire out there for mud, rocks, sand etc. For crawling I run them backwards, but for a run like we are doing tomorrow where there is just a lot of dirt trail and stuff I am running them forwards.

I like their sidewalls better than an MTR. I've been with Ben when he cut up some of those sidewalls on his MT/R's and they are a great all around tire, but I'll take the Claw everytime. I finally convince Joe of this and he started running the Comp Claws along with several other of our friends. Hell one of our buddies like his comp claws so much that he's building a 4500 dollar Tru-High 9 to handle them.

Not that I'm bragging, but I'd say that I probably beat my "Radial" Claws up more than anyone else on this board and I really don't want to ever run anything else.

Hey Ben, Claws look good. I'm sure I'll see you in the morning.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:29 AM   #11
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Thanks, Jack. Knowing you all are out there beating the hell out of these tires gives me some peace of mind. I definately won't be putting them through as much as you all do, and if they hold up to the torture you're putting them through, they shouldn't be giving me ANY problems!! I appreciate the input....
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Jordan, now don't get me wrong I have and will cut sidewalls. I blew the hell out of one on a night run a few weeks ago. But overall they are a bad ass tire.
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I'm getting ready to move to Kansas from southern California. No more Mojave Desert for me. I'm getting stationed at Fort Riley for a couple months prior to my team deploying overseas. I'll have some time to play in Kansas, but it probably won't be in any big rock gardens where I'll have to worry about cutting my sidewalls. I'm planning on looking up Mr. Clifford since he's in the area. Hoping he'll take me under his wing and show me some of the in and outs of wheeling there. Of course, to follow him through some of the stuff his Jeep is capable of I'd have to have my helo crew!
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:08 AM   #14
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I like those tires alot. Post some pics of them is action!!
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Ben, it looked like your new tires did good yesterday.
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The tires ROCKED! I originally aired down to 6 psi but from the heat of the day (115+) the tire pressure eventually increased to 8.5 psi by the end of the day. Even at that pressure they totally kicked butt compared to the MTRs. Crown King isn't super challenging but it does have its share of fun obsticles. Where i wouldve spun a tire before getting traction the jeep just crawled effortlessly up and over. I love these tires... even if I have to buy new ones within another year because of tread wear.

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