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Old 01-25-2012, 09:44 AM   #1
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Mysterious Button

I just bought a 2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon on Saturday. I have this mysterious button on the dash under where the key goes. Sometimes I have to push it to start the vehicle and its random when I have to. Sometimes after not being started for awhile and sometimes after its only been off for 45 minutes. Whenever I push it, it resets the radio. Not sure if it is aftermarket or not. Here is my build sheet. If anyone can tell me what it is, I would appreciate it. Thanks!


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*P5 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:45 AM   #2
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Can you post a picture of it?

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Old 01-25-2012, 09:47 AM   #3
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Oh god a mystery button?!?!?!?!?!? I would push the crap outta that thing, is it red? I hope its red, god let it be red, then I'd push it while driving! Will you drive to Indiana so I can push the button? I do like buttons.
We'll need a pick, doesn't sound factory especially since it throws an interruption to the battery line to your radio making it lose its memory. You'll eventually need to pull it and trace the wires to see where its going and what its spliced into.
Do you have a chip keyed jeep? and aftermarket alarm installed?
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Oh god a mystery button?!?!?!?!?!? I would push the crap outta that thing, is it red? I hope its red, god let it be red, then I'd push it while driving! Will you drive to Indiana so I can push the button? I do like buttons.
haha that was great!
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:50 AM   #5
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Can you post a picture of it?
Yeah didn't think about that. Sorry! lol
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:51 AM   #6
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Oh god a mystery button?!?!?!?!?!? I would push the crap outta that thing, is it red? I hope its red, god let it be red, then I'd push it while driving! Will you drive to Indiana so I can push the button? I do like buttons.
HA! Reminded me of this...


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Old 01-25-2012, 09:52 AM   #7
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whoa...did your passenger eject by chance????
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:52 AM   #8
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Can you post a picture of it?
As far as I can tell, its not equipped with an alarm system or anything like that. So I don't know exactly what the purpose of this is.

How do I tell if its a chipped key or not?
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Looks to me like Dragon is going to be disappointed.......Its black....
I wonder if he will still want to push it............
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:53 AM   #10
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Looks like someone probably had an alarm at one time in that Jeep and took it out before they got rid of it.
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Looks to me like Dragon is going to be disappointed.......Its black....
I wonder if he will still want to push it............
I'm a fan of the sniper quote in your sig line btw. hahaha
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:55 AM   #12
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Looks like someone probably had an alarm at one time in that Jeep and took it out before they got rid of it.
OK well thats going to be a pain in my ass. I'm taking it in tomorrow for some upgrades so I might see if they can rip it out for me.

Its just weird that the time period is random when I have to press it to start the vehicle.
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:59 AM   #13
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Please stop pushing the button!!!!!!! This must be connected to my garage door opener....hahahahahaha
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Also, Are you sure you bought a Jeep or a transformer? That build sheet is crazy.
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First, yes, I'd still press the button, and even once unhooked I would keep the button to press on bad days to give me a boost. Stimpy knows what its like... buttons are made for pressin!!

I have no idea why that would be there, even with an alarm, what would it be? a kill switch? a reset for the kill switch that gets activated when the alarm goes off? If that were the case, why would it be so visual?
I'm going with someone installed lights or some other A/M item and did a shit job on wiring and its shorted across another wire with your ignition.

EDIT: Chipped key = Grey Key, non chipped will be black. I was thinking along the lines of the a remote start wired in by what would obviously be a non pro and that button being a kill switch.
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First, yes, I'd still press the button, and even once unhooked I would keep the button to press on bad days to give me a boost. Stimpy knows what its like... buttons are made for pressin!!

I have no idea why that would be there, even with an alarm, what would it be? a kill switch? a reset for the kill switch that gets activated when the alarm goes off? If that were the case, why would it be so visual?
I'm going with someone installed lights or some other A/M item and did a shit job on wiring and its shorted across another wire with your ignition.

EDIT: Chipped key = Grey Key, non chipped will be black. I was thinking along the lines of the a remote start wired in by what would obviously be a non pro and that button being a kill switch.
OK So I just ran a little experiment.

Turn key and start, push button, battery meter never fluctuates.
Turn off
Turn on, still starts without button, program a station in the radio
Turn off.
Push button, turn on and start, radio still programmed.

W......T.......F......
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OK So I just ran a little experiment.

Turn key and start, push button, battery meter never fluctuates.
Turn off
Turn on, still starts without button, program a station in the radio
Turn off.
Push button, turn on and start, radio still programmed.

W......T.......F......
Also Unrelated question. My build sheet says I have 16" moab wheels, which i do, but my spare is a 15". that seems kind of dumb to me plus it has a normal tire. Is this normal from the factory?
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Activates the flux capacitor?
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Activates the flux capacitor?
while driving 85mph hit the button and see if you go back in time
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while driving 85mph hit the button and see if you go back in time
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Jeeps go that fast?

So, now you are pressing the button, and it doesn't clear out the radio.... I'm thinking more and more along the lines of a shorted connection, I bet you'll find it spliced into the battery line that runs your radio.
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It does look like the button they call the valet button on some aftermarket alarms and remote starts. It allowed people to start the vehicle without using the key fob after the alarm had been de activated. Never saw the purpose myself, who herre gets valet parking. But that would explain how sometimes you need to hit it and when you do it messes up the radio. Especially if it was a DYI install not done correctly.
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That looks like a momentary switch, I would take out that panel and trace the wire to see where it goes...
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I agree I'd push the shit outta it, especially if it is not connected to anything.
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Jeeps go that fast?

So, now you are pressing the button, and it doesn't clear out the radio.... I'm thinking more and more along the lines of a shorted connection, I bet you'll find it spliced into the battery line that runs your radio.
So I took the panel off and followed the wires to this thing attached to the battery. Any ideas? No logos or anything on it.
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I don't, but this is the funniest thread I've ever read.
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So I took the panel off and followed the wires to this thing attached to the battery. Any ideas? No logos or anything on it.
OK its an automotive battery disconnect device, but no manufacturer listed on it. I take it this isn't factory? Also why would someone put one on?

EDIT:

I found the specific one in case anybody was wondering.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190464455974...ht_1611wt_1270
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I can't think of a reason, unless they had something that was draining the battery and the disconnect was a quick fix.

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