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Old 12-04-2008, 11:03 AM   #1
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NE one sorry they installed 35's?

I am in the planning stages of my TJ build. As you probably know, many modifications are dependant on other modifications. Because of this I believe the first decision I need to make is tire size. Right now I am floating between 35's and 33's. I am leaning towards 35's but I do not want to "over build". So.....

Is anyone sorry they went with 35's instead of a smaller tire?

My TJ is a weekly driver around the neighborhood. It also gets flat towed to the So Cal desert several times a year and I want to keep it useable on the freeway. I am not interested in destroying my jeep on the Hammers but I do want a very capable rig.

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #2
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I am in the planning stages of my TJ build. As you probably know, many modifications are dependant on other modifications. Because of this I believe the first decision I need to make is tire size. Right now I am floating between 35's and 33's. I am leaning towards 35's but I do not want to "over build". So.....

Is anyone sorry they went with 35's instead of a smaller tire?

My TJ is a weekly driver around the neighborhood. It also gets flat towed to the So Cal desert several times a year and I want to keep it useable on the freeway. I am not interested in destroying my jeep on the Hammers but I do want a very capable rig.
I know guys that run both 33" and 35" I myself have 35" and just last weekend I was out with a few other jeeps with 33" on a very rocky and rutted trail I did not hit my axle but one time on this particular trail but the other guys where banging there Axel a lot that day.
That two inches does make a difference at times, also the line you chose does also but sometimes..... as you well know you just have to go for it I'm geared with 4.88 with a 3 speed auto tranny and on the road running about 65 its at 3000 rpm but I usually drive 60mph but if you have a 4 speed auto or a 5 speed manual I think you wont be sorry you went with 35"

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:23 PM   #3
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If you can afford the mods to accommodate 35's I'd say do it. Having a D35 in the back of mine discourages me from this. Plus a brake upgrade, new gears and upgraded steering. Having 33's has kept me off some runs that require 35' or larger tires.
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If you can afford the mods to accommodate 35's I'd say do it. Having a D35 in the back of mine discourages me from this. Plus a brake upgrade, new gears and upgraded steering. Having 33's has kept me off some runs that require 35' or larger tires.
Good point, the D-30 also needs an up-grade for 35s, and a 4" suspension needs help to keep from rubbing too bad.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:45 PM   #5
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im sorry that i went to 39s only b/c it rides like a marshmallow now......i miss driving it on the street as much but you have to make a decision.....i dont think that there is anywher that a jeep on 35s can go that a jeep on 33s cant.....ive struggled on obstacles with mine on huge tires and then watched a fairly stock jeep make it look easy.....i would run the 33s and lock that thing up an dyou will be fine
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:33 PM   #6
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Well is sounds like for the most part guys are not sorry they spent the extra $$$ to get on 35's.
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:41 PM   #7
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If you have the money for the right lift and have the proper axle's and upgrading brakes and gears and some of the rest that come with 35's, go for it.

I go out every couple of weeks on the rocks and one buddy has 33's. He wishes he had 35's and while we haven't left him behind before, there have been times where he was on the winch or took the bypass.

Remember the extra cost associated with 35's in tires, and the things mentioned above. If you NEED them, you won't regret it. If you don't, it's overkill. Up to you
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Old 12-04-2008, 07:47 PM   #8
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the only thing i'm sorry about is i that i didnt join this forum earlier before i bought my rig and find out which differentials are which.. I ended up w/ a d35 because of lack of experience. I love my 35s even though i have to baby em. If i had a stronger differential i would have gone with 36s or 37s.

anyhow here is 6" of lift and 35s
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:04 PM   #9
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Good point, the D-30 also needs an up-grade for 35s
IMO thats not true.
A stock Rubicon D44 front axle works fine with 35s.
The TJ D30 has the same axle shafts, U-joints, ... Only the diffrential is different. The D44 has a bigger ring gear.
Why should I upgrade my axle shafts and U-joints. They are the same than in a Rubicon.
I have 35s on a stock D30 and I don´t take care of my TJ when I´m wheeling.
When yopu use your brain and dont drive with full throttle all the time the stock D30 is ok with 35s.
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Old 12-04-2008, 10:10 PM   #10
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Well I'm sitting on D30/D44 so 35's is the largest I would go. IMO to do 33's right I need about 3.5" suspension lift, gears, lockers, SYE, rear double CV DS, and wheels with the correct offset. With all of this investment, I would go ahead and use after market UCA and LCA to get the full flex out of it.

Looking at the cost of all this, I don't think it would be that much more to go 4.5" lift, LA, and 35's.

Not to mention the fact that I have friends on 35's and no real desire to be the weak link in the group.

I better go measure my garage door height to make sure the TJ will still fit with 35's.
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A stock jeep on 35" tires with the right lift, and axles, and lockers, is almost as capable as a extreme built rig. It is the breaking point of building some thing much stronger, and more capable. If handled right, it is a very capable rig. But if you have reached this point, in your build, you won't truely be happy until you build the ultimate strectched out rig, that can handle it all. But be ware, once you build the ultimate machine, you will soon tire of the whole thing. It is the struggle that keeps us wanting more, and once you reach the top, it all looses meaning. Not really......... It is work that make's one loose interest in playing............
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IMO thats not true.
A stock Rubicon D44 front axle works fine with 35s.
The TJ D30 has the same axle shafts, U-joints, ... Only the diffrential is different. The D44 has a bigger ring gear.
Why should I upgrade my axle shafts and U-joints. They are the same than in a Rubicon.
I have 35s on a stock D30 and I don´t take care of my TJ when I´m wheeling.
When yopu use your brain and dont drive with full throttle all the time the stock D30 is ok with 35s.
Nicolas, this is not entirely true. D44 inner axle shafts are 30 spline over the 27 spline D30 inners. Yes the outers and the ujoints are the same, however there is some substantial beef on the internals of the Rubi D44 over the 30.

Now that being said if you are running 35's on your D30 and are wheeling it hard consistently I would highly recommend a set of chromoly axle shafts. Yes the stock ones can handle some punishment, but the Chromo's will bring greater piece of mind.
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i wheeled my stock d30 on 36s for years and i wheeled it harder than most every would.........axle shafts are 15 bucks around here and we can change them in about 10 minutes so i find no point in actually spending the money on chromollys.........i would say that the one true upgrade to do would be good u joints in both the d44 and the d30.....that is the true weak link in both front ends
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:59 AM   #14
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Im sorry bought 35's..I have a total of 8inches of lift and I should of went with 37"s..Other then that im as happy as a pig in shit
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Nicolas, this is not entirely true. D44 inner axle shafts are 30 spline over the 27 spline D30 inners. Yes the outers and the ujoints are the same, however there is some substantial beef on the internals of the Rubi D44 over the 30.

Now that being said if you are running 35's on your D30 and are wheeling it hard consistently I would highly recommend a set of chromoly axle shafts. Yes the stock ones can handle some punishment, but the Chromo's will bring greater piece of mind.
IMO the inner axle shafts have the same diameter and it´s the same material, the only difference is 27 vs 30 spline. There shouldn´t be a big difference.

I already have Chromo´s but I didn´t install them yet. I wondered how solid the stock axle shafts are. So many people told me that they will brake the first time I´m wheling with 35s and a locker. But they still work.
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the inners have the same blank diameter but the d30 axleshafts are turned down to accomadate the 27 splines instead of the 30.....the edge of the splines are where 99.9% of axle shafts break and that is why d30 inner shafts are weaker than the m44.....but all in all the u joints are the weakest link of both axles....

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