Need a new soft top - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 06-05-2014, 06:11 AM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
Need a new soft top

I live in Fl where the weather is warm to hot most of the time. Ive got and 04 TJ with i believe a factory top still. The top appears to be a hard plastic with cloth inside. Its an absolute bear to put back up. It normally take two people and takes the fun out of running topless. I dont have a garage, but us 303 on it after a wash. I noticed the last time some of the seams are breaking from having to pull so hard to get it back up. Summers here it likes to rain about every afternoon. There seems to be a lot of options for the soft tops. I just replaced the upper door with sliding glass.... why so Ahole did a five finger discount on mine right in my own drive way. I replaced it with BEST and it appears to be sail cloth. Whats the best choice for replacement material and by who? Also, how hard are they to swap out?

Dew

Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 06:52 AM   #2
Jeeper
 
SurfKaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: St. Augustine FL
Posts: 1,631
Get a Bestop. Factory replacement if you have the hardware or you could go the trextop NX version if you don't. Not real sure what top you have when you say 'hard plastic with cloth inside'? I assume that's hardtop, especially if it takes two people. Either way Bestop is your best route for quality.

SurfKaster is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 09:31 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 198
Go with the Softopper for the TJ (Jeep Wrangler TJ - Jeep & SUV Tops). Got mine about 3 months ago and love it. Can have it off it under a minute, back on in about the same amount of time - by myself. Frameless so you have cleaner lines with it down and you can store the rolled up top behind the rear seat.
grogcummins is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 10:50 AM   #4
Bet
Jeeper
 
Bet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 242
Fan of my Softopper, got a pair of used door surrounds first though. For a frameless top that lots of people say looks loose, i get very minimal flappage and it seems quieter than my old bestop. I enjoy running safari style with it, partially because I'm lazy, and partially because I like having something to keep my head out of the blazing sun.
__________________
Ol' Red - '00 TJ

Bet is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 11:47 AM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
Mine is a soft top. But it looks like cloth with a sprayed plastic seems durable enough, but its like it shrank even after being in the warm sun it hard to pull the back down without help. Im assuming i have all the factory parts since there are bars that run across inside which i think the top is velcroed to them. Im more than pleased with the BEST upper doors witch i believe has sail cloth material. Anyone know which is more durable.... Also, take it somewhere or do it yourself?
Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 03:14 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
DarthLEGO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 383
Images: 2
X3 on Softtopper. And if you do get one, just make sure you get the right model. One has their surrounds and one if you have factory ones.

I would suggest doing like Bet said and try finding some used surrounds. I did and it makes it nice and tight. The ones that they offer just don't look like they offer a perfect seal.

To give you an idea of how fast they come off, I have taken mine all the way off at stop light. And they go on in less then 5. Plus I have an LJ so that is a lot more canvas and plastic. LOL

Next suggestion is if you plan on being topless a lot is to pull your carpet and probably line your tub. I live in FL too and I just love our summer storms. I leave mine outside all day at work and if we get hit with downpour and she is nekkid, everything is good. When I get off, I just pull my floor plugs and the seats are usually dry because the sun has popped back out.
__________________
Driving a Jeep is like riding in a roller coaster everyday!
DarthLEGO is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 03:19 PM   #7
ExtremeTerrain.com Sponsoring Vendor
 
XTRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Malvern, PA
Posts: 3,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewcon4414 View Post
Mine is a soft top. But it looks like cloth with a sprayed plastic seems durable enough, but its like it shrank even after being in the warm sun it hard to pull the back down without help. Im assuming i have all the factory parts since there are bars that run across inside which i think the top is velcroed to them. Im more than pleased with the BEST upper doors witch i believe has sail cloth material. Anyone know which is more durable.... Also, take it somewhere or do it yourself?
Depending on your budget, the Bestop Replacement Tops are great. If you're looking for something more budget friendly but still sailcloth, the Barricade Replacement Tops are really solid.

They're pretty easy to install yourself. They come out of the box a little tight but once you stretch it over the frame the first time you'll be all set! Let me know if you have any questions or if you'd like a quote!

-Ryan
__________________
Ryan H. | ExtremeTerrain.com Off-Road Outfitters
Toll Free: 800-988-4605 | Mon-Fri 10AM-6PM EST
Free Shipping on Orders Over $75!
EARN UP TO $200 TOWARD YOUR NEXT PURCHASE!
PM me for our WranglerForum Discount Code (must have 25 posts) or Price-Matching!
GET YOUR FREE JEEP PARTS CATALOG!
XTRyan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 04:36 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
NeitherFanboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Humble, Texas
Posts: 260
I know I will be the minority, but I bought a bowless soft top and really hate it. Takes longer to put up and down that the factory top, and harder to do when I am by myself. Plus, it ponds water above the front seats (a lot) and when it does, it leaks. Just waiting for it to wear out so I can go back to the factory top (glad I saved the hardware).
NeitherFanboy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 05:02 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
Someone recommended this: Home This seems like something i might be interested in. If it can be installed using my current top.... that would be just the ticket for my use. Anyone ever install one of these on their TJ?

Dew
Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-05-2014, 05:05 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Whitey28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 35
Just got a bestop replace a top last week from amazon. $400 total. Took less than 30 min to install. Fit perfect.
Whitey28 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 09:09 AM   #11
ExtremeTerrain.com Sponsoring Vendor
 
XTRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Malvern, PA
Posts: 3,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeitherFanboy View Post
I know I will be the minority, but I bought a bowless soft top and really hate it. Takes longer to put up and down that the factory top, and harder to do when I am by myself. Plus, it ponds water above the front seats (a lot) and when it does, it leaks. Just waiting for it to wear out so I can go back to the factory top (glad I saved the hardware).
The frameless soft tops aren't really designed to take up and down. The nice part about the Bestop Trektop NX is that you get the sunrider feature to let some sun in without taking it all the way down. I know the new tops come with a bow to keep water from pooling on top, but I'm not sure what brand/model you have.

-Ryan
__________________
Ryan H. | ExtremeTerrain.com Off-Road Outfitters
Toll Free: 800-988-4605 | Mon-Fri 10AM-6PM EST
Free Shipping on Orders Over $75!
EARN UP TO $200 TOWARD YOUR NEXT PURCHASE!
PM me for our WranglerForum Discount Code (must have 25 posts) or Price-Matching!
GET YOUR FREE JEEP PARTS CATALOG!
XTRyan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 10:50 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 404
Sailcloth and Bestop. The only tops I have experience with and I'm 3 for 3 with Bestop.

If you want to know, I run the bestop halftop and it's badass!
Muddeprived is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 01:02 PM   #13
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 198
Quote:
Originally Posted by XTRyan View Post
The frameless soft tops aren't really designed to take up and down. -Ryan
I've really had zero issues with taking the Softopper up and down. In fact, on my way home yesterday I saw a thunderstorm up ahead. Pulled under a bridge to put the top (full disclosure - just the top, not the windows or uppers as I didn't have them) up. At the same time another TJ pulled up behind me to do the same with his factory (read: Bestop) framed top. I had mine on, secured (both rear straps and the center strap) and was rolling before he had his ready to clamp on.

I know at least one on here had a poor experience with their Softopper (can't recall the name right now). And maybe the other frameless work as well as the Softopper. But this one really did everything I wanted it to:

Easy on/off
Can still carry the top even when off easily
Very clean lines with the top down and stowed (factory framed top stuck up a good 6" to 12" above the tup.
Very clean lines running "safari" style (i.e. no frame in the way in the back)
Zippers very easy to use (to be fair, my comparison was a 17 yo original top)

Definitely more expensive than either Rampage's or Smitty's but, at least to me, it seems worth it.
grogcummins is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 01:34 PM   #14
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
Ryan..... i like the trektop NX look. Any mods to the current framework or do you just put it over the existing factory framework and you have the open roof? Kind of new at this so im not understanding when some are talking frame less. Ive got Best Door uppers.... black sail cloth, love um. Sounds like its a bear to get on.... does it loosen up or is it a constant fight to take it all the way down and back up? Thats my complaint now... to tight and its been on there for years. I like the window option .... do you have to take out the windows or at least the back one with it open? pretty pricy but how often do you have to change one out?

Dew
Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 02:00 PM   #15
Jeeper
 
Wildoffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 21
I have the best top trek top. Very pleased with it. Better version of the old Viking fast back soft top, and uses the factory roll cage for support. They have added in a few things that decrease the noise and seal the top a lot better with this version.

Click image for larger version

Name:	image-2568307249.jpg
Views:	70
Size:	195.5 KB
ID:	1177914
Wildoffroad is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-06-2014, 03:51 PM   #16
Full Size Jeep Dr.

WF Supporting Member
 
lindel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: The land of Salted Iron
Posts: 2,204
Another vote for the Softopper. Completely on or off in less than 10 minutes, including the door surrounds. It goes on nice and tight, so little to no ponding of water. Available in 4 colors, all sail cloth, made in the USA, with or without tinted windows.

Since you have a factory soft top, use your factory door surrounds and get the TJ02 model.

Jeep Wrangler TJ - Jeep & SUV Tops

Check out the videos on their website and on YouTube.
__________________
His: 1999 Flame Red TJ, With a few mods...

Hers: 1987 Grand Wagoneer, stock w/Falken Wildpeak ATs
lindel is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-08-2014, 02:17 PM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 18
I really like my sailcloth trektop nx. It is very quite also for a soft top when running down the highway. My wife loves the sunrider feature too!
thebirdman is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-08-2014, 07:42 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 39
I have the NX model and i would like to see others with the sunrider open, they just look diff where the sides clip into the door surrounds when flipped back.
showtime is online now   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-09-2014, 01:23 PM   #19
ExtremeTerrain.com Sponsoring Vendor
 
XTRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Malvern, PA
Posts: 3,202
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewcon4414 View Post
Ryan..... i like the trektop NX look. Any mods to the current framework or do you just put it over the existing factory framework and you have the open roof? Kind of new at this so im not understanding when some are talking frame less. Ive got Best Door uppers.... black sail cloth, love um. Sounds like its a bear to get on.... does it loosen up or is it a constant fight to take it all the way down and back up? Thats my complaint now... to tight and its been on there for years. I like the window option .... do you have to take out the windows or at least the back one with it open? pretty pricy but how often do you have to change one out?

Dew
Dew,

There isn't a typical frame used with the Trektops. They go directly onto the roll bar and only have a small frame for the sunrider feature. They should loosen up for you after it's installed and in the sun. It really isn't designed to take up and down like the factory soft top though. The windows come out and form what is essentially a safari top. You don't need to remove the windows to open the sunrider.

They will hold up well for you and you shouldn't be replacing them very often. I think you'll find a lot of people that say they're worth the money! Let me know what other questions you have.

-Ryan
__________________
Ryan H. | ExtremeTerrain.com Off-Road Outfitters
Toll Free: 800-988-4605 | Mon-Fri 10AM-6PM EST
Free Shipping on Orders Over $75!
EARN UP TO $200 TOWARD YOUR NEXT PURCHASE!
PM me for our WranglerForum Discount Code (must have 25 posts) or Price-Matching!
GET YOUR FREE JEEP PARTS CATALOG!
XTRyan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-10-2014, 03:49 PM   #20
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
Thanks Ryan. I was looking at a kit to make any soft top sunroof capable at about $60.... but there is some cutting involved to the frame work and im not sure about that. Thats why i asked if you had to cut the frame for it to come back. So it has its own elbow independent of the main framework?

Dew
Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-10-2014, 04:05 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
n00g7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Northern VT // Western Wisconsin
Posts: 2,020
I like the Safari + Deck Cover combo instead of the soft top.
__________________
That moment when you look at a really nice JK and think to yourself, "Well I SUPPOSE I could see myself trading in my TJ for one of those, but for those ugly ass door handles."
n00g7 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-10-2014, 04:11 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
dealerjoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Greenbrier,WV
Posts: 291
Take it from my recent beach trip that the safari and deck cover combo is good for sprinkles or small showers, but in a storm you better have the drain plugs pulled. I went to jump in to go out for dinner after a hour long storm and had three inches of water in the floorboards. Needless to say I now know where the plugs are lol
__________________
Jeep Life!!!
2012 JKUS Dozer traded after 2.5yrs, 28,500m -> 2014 JKUS Copperhead
dealerjoe is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-10-2014, 04:18 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
n00g7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Northern VT // Western Wisconsin
Posts: 2,020
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealerjoe View Post
Take it from my recent beach trip that the safari and deck cover combo is good for sprinkles or small showers, but in a storm you better have the drain plugs pulled. I went to jump in to go out for dinner after a hour long storm and had three inches of water in the floorboards. Needless to say I now know where the plugs are lol
I have a tarp for when it's parked.
__________________
That moment when you look at a really nice JK and think to yourself, "Well I SUPPOSE I could see myself trading in my TJ for one of those, but for those ugly ass door handles."
n00g7 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-10-2014, 04:34 PM   #24
Jeeper
 
THE BIG SITT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 188
I have the Bestop Trektop. It came with the Jeep so I don't know any better, but I can say that it seems very nice. I have taken it on/off 5 times in the last month now. Every time it gets easier (combination of the weather warming up and me figuring out the intricacies of the top). Once you get the hang of it, you could probably get the top on in 10-15 minutes. Less if you don't take off the door surrounds (I have to in order to get my cargo net over the back).

The hardest part is getting all the zippers started. My recomendation is to start them all half way or so, secure the little channel things on the sides and back, and then zip them the rest of the way. I have also heard that it helps to lay it out in the sun before installing, but if there is sun to lay the top out in, then why are you putting the top on?
THE BIG SITT is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-11-2014, 05:35 AM   #25
Newb
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 8
I live in Fl where the weather is warm to hot most of the time.
sdhf is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-11-2014, 09:30 AM   #26
Jeep Flip-Ur-Top Commercial Member

WF Supporting Member
 
Markrak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Gloucester, VA
Posts: 130
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewcon4414 View Post
Someone recommended this: Home This seems like something i might be interested in. If it can be installed using my current top.... that would be just the ticket for my use. Anyone ever install one of these on their TJ?

Dew
I did install this on my 2000TJ when I was prototyping the product, and have installed about 25 of them locally....if you would like to PM me I can give you my phone number and try to answer any questions you may have.
Mark
Markrak is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-12-2014, 12:44 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 28
I live in Fl also.... lets not forget about our rain almost every afternoon during the summer. So.... it appears there is a difference between a SUNRIDER and a NX..... whats the difference? Material left showing once the windows are removed?

Dew
Dewcon4414 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-12-2014, 07:59 PM   #28
Bet
Jeeper
 
Bet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PA
Posts: 242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markrak View Post
I did install this on my 2000TJ when I was prototyping the product, and have installed about 25 of them locally....if you would like to PM me I can give you my phone number and try to answer any questions you may have. Mark
Just ordered one of your fliptops for my dad for a Father's Day gift!
__________________
Ol' Red - '00 TJ

Bet is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-24-2014, 05:28 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
mikhail2400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Jesup GA
Posts: 549
Just put in an order for the softopper. With tinted windows and shipping total came to $589.25. A bit cheaper than I was expecting to pay for other tops I was looking at.
You guys sold me on it with the easy install and removal talk.
mikhail2400 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 06-24-2014, 08:26 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
blade4804's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Euless, TX
Posts: 256
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewcon4414 View Post
Mine is a soft top. But it looks like cloth with a sprayed plastic seems durable enough,
what happened to your factory soft top? its not supposed to be hard or have a plastic feel. if you bought it like this, someone may have plasti dipped it to make it more rigid but thats crazy. click here for a smittybilt softtop replacement for under 300, its super easy to install. takes about 10 to 15 minutes.

once you have a new top you can get the flip your top upgrade

blade4804 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



« Lift kit | Day 1 »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Download our Mobile App

» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 AM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC