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Old 09-07-2012, 05:12 PM   #1
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Need help with my lift - OME 2 inch

I'm attempting a OME 2" lift. I managed to get the old, original springs out (step #1).

When attempting to get the new springs in, I cant get the suspension to articulate enough for the longer spring. I have read posts where folks can get 4 inch lifts installed without much of a problem. After maneuvering the vehicle quite a bit, I'm stuck. I dont know what I'm doing wrong.

Here are pictures of the new spring, front drivers side. This is spring "A". I need about 3 inches more of a drop in order to get this spring installed.

Both front sway bar links are disconnected.
Both front shocks are disconnected.

What else can I do (besides using an external spring compressor, which I dont have) to get room for the new spring? Does a portion of the steering need to be disconnected?

Whether I jack up the passenger side to the bump stop, or let the whole suspension hang, I cant get these springs installed. The jeep is up in the air at the frame, using jack stands.









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Old 09-07-2012, 05:28 PM   #2
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Looks like you already installed the shock. Disconnect that from top or bottom. When I did mine (same lift) I also had the whole axle hanging and I disconnected the track bar as well.

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Looks like you already installed the shock. Disconnect that from top or bottom. When I did mine (same lift) I also had the whole axle hanging and I disconnected the track bar as well.
Good thing I didn't pay attention to what you said. As in you disconnected the shocks. My mistake
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #4
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Good thing I didn't pay attention to what you said. As in you disconnected the shocks. My mistake
No worries! :-)
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have you disconnected the axle end of the track bar? doesn't look like it... did you loosen the control arm bolts? not remove...just loosen? that will help unbind the bushings, and keep them from destroying themselves. retorque when the weight is back on the axles. why don't you want to use spring compressors? you should have those for a lift install. OME springs have a long unloaded length (which is a good thing)...you want spring compressors...they are your friend and can be rented at almost any auto parts store.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #6
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have you disconnected the axle end of the track bar? doesn't look like it... did you loosen the control arm bolts? not remove...just loosen? that will help unbind the bushings, and keep them from destroying themselves. retorque when the weight is back on the axles. why don't you want to use spring compressors? you should have those for a lift install. OME springs have a long unloaded length (which is a good thing)...you want spring compressors...they are your friend and can be rented at almost any auto parts store.
I have not disconnected the axle end of the track bar. Didn't see that step in previous posts.

I have borrowed the spring compressor from Advanced Auto, but it's only an internal compressor. You cant get the long bolt out after compressing and installing.
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OK- trackbar disconnected at the axle. A little more articulation, but still not enough to get the spring installed on the drivers side.

Will have to hunt down an external spring compressor.....

Beer time!
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Put bottle jack between axle and body/frame. Go slow and this will open things up for you. I say again be carefully
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:32 PM   #9
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Don't know if you have an auto trans with skid plate, but on mine the front drive shaft would hit the skid before the axle would drop all the way down.
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@ LJMJ- I have a manual. I was hitting the lower arm on the passenger side, though. I removed the steering damper, and that gave the axle a little more flex.

After removing the trackbar at the axle, and using the inside compressor on the outside (just enough to get about an inch of compression- yeah, I'm a redneck), and literally standing on the brake rotor, I got the springs in. YEAH!

<I had to say literally in the post, since Biden did such a good job last night.>

I cant seem to get the axle to flex in the right direction in order to get the trackbar to line up so I can get the bolt back in. Seems to be such a chore with this lift install.

Back to more beer, and some sleep. Will continue bolting things back together in the morning and try the rear springs after that.

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@ LJMJ- I have a manual. I was hitting the lower arm on the passenger side, though. I removed the steering damper, and that gave the axle a little more flex.

After removing the trackbar at the axle, and using the inside compressor on the outside (just enough to get about an inch of compression- yeah, I'm a redneck), and literally standing on the brake rotor, I got the springs in. YEAH!

<I had to say literally in the post, since Biden did such a good job last night.>

I cant seem to get the axle to flex in the right direction in order to get the trackbar to line up so I can get the bolt back in. Seems to be such a chore with this lift install.

Back to more beer, and some sleep. Will continue bolting things back together in the morning and try the rear springs after that.

Thanks Y'all!
It would have been easier to put the bottle jack that comes with your tj between the lca and the frame then you wouldnt of had to deal with the track bar or ca bolts
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It would have been easier to put the bottle jack that comes with your tj between the lca and the frame then you wouldnt of had to deal with the track bar or ca bolts
I was thinking that, but the LCA was already hitting the axle bracket, so I thought that was as far as it would flex.

Hindsight is always 20/20, and posting on here helps me learn from all of the smart fellers. The rear springs will hopefully go a bit easier tomorrow.

Still gotta get the trackbar back together. Is there some fancy way to get this accomplished with a bottle jack and a beer?
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Trackbar- well, this guy used a come-along. I have one of these. Think I'll give it a try in the morning.

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I was thinking that, but the LCA was already hitting the axle bracket, so I thought that was as far as it would flex.

Hindsight is always 20/20, and posting on here helps me learn from all of the smart fellers. The rear springs will hopefully go a bit easier tomorrow.

Still gotta get the trackbar back together. Is there some fancy way to get this accomplished with a bottle jack and a beer?
Disco the swaybar and shock then wedge the bottle jack between the lca and the frame then just jack it up, drop the spring etc.
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Try removing the the bump stops, that will give you a couple more inches to work with. I did this did this same lift earlier this year and used a long pry bar to help get the springs in place.
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Trackbar- well, this guy used a come-along. I have one of these. Think I'll give it a try in the morning.
good gawd thats a mess.

just turn the steering wheel and have someone stick the bolt it. if noone is around, then lay on your back, hold the bolt in one hand and push on the frame with your legs.

no need for ratchet straps, come-alongs or any of that jazz.
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When you go to do the rear axle, try using a jack to lift the opposite side of the axle up. This will push the side you are working on down giving you more room to remove/replace springs. If you still don't have room, a bottle jack can be used between the axle and frame for the last little bit. Be mindful of brake lines and go slow.

I hope you have been PB blasting those rear shock bolts :-)
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@UnlimitedLJ04- Yeah, it's a pain doing this by myself. I'm a 160lb desk-jockey, so using tools to help get the job done is my only way through this. I tried pulling on it last night while I was raising/lowering the axle, trying to get the bolt back it. I was raising it so far, I almost moved the jeep off the jack stands.

@BLK00TJ - yep, I'll definitely use the bottle jack between the frame and the axle to get more separation when I work on the rear springs.
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@UnlimitedLJ04- Yeah, it's a pain doing this by myself. I'm a 160lb desk-jockey, so using tools to help get the job done is my only way through this. I tried pulling on it last night while I was raising/lowering the axle, trying to get the bolt back it. I was raising it so far, I almost moved the jeep off the jack stands.
I'm confused as to why you are trying to reconnect the track bar while the jeep is still on jack stands?
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I managed to get the trackbar back together, and just about wrapped up with the front end.

Thanks to everyone with their helpful suggestions.
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I managed to get the trackbar back together, and just about wrapped up with the front end.

Thanks to everyone with their helpful suggestions.
Awesome. When you get it all installed you should test it out. MJC is getting a trip together for 9/22 up at Rausch Creek. One of the guys that's going lives in your area.
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Awesome. When you get it all installed you should test it out. MJC is getting a trip together for 9/22 up at Rausch Creek. One of the guys that's going lives in your area.
Would love to. I saw some videos on the local FB post of the new trail in "the back" area that is a blue course. That was an inspirational video. I would post a copy/link here, but I cant figure out how to share a video from FB out to here. There's no copy link, etc... so it must no be a public video.

Here's the view, though. Spectacular!

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Would love to. I saw some videos on the local FB post of the new trail in "the back" area that is a blue course. That was an inspirational video. I would post a copy/link here, but I cant figure out how to share a video from FB out to here. There's no copy link, etc... so it must no be a public video.

Here's the view, though. Spectacular!

It's definitely a fun place for every level of build from stock all the way up to the biggest rig you can think of. I always have fun and get ideas every time on what I need to upgrade next. Here's half of my clumsy decent down trail 17 which is marked as a red but I think it's more of a black. This was 2 weeks ago. My seatbelt locked up on me so I had trouble leaning out to see what was in front of me. This trail is the reason I'll be replacing my gas tank skid tomorrow.


And getting stuck coming out of the Fire Pit.

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