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Old 03-30-2011, 09:17 AM   #1
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Need help with winch accessory list

I'm going to 4 wheel parts on Saturday to pick up some stuff. I recently installed my first winch on my TJ, the warn m8000.

I want to get the 48' hi lift jack, a snatch block, and anything else winch related that I may need.

So, what do I get?
I'm going to get the 18,000 smittybilt snatch block.
Can I use a tow strap instead of a tree truck protector?

What else do I need for my winch? I'm very new at this...

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A 20' 2" hookless (sewn loops, no steel hooks) snatch strap, a couple 3/4" shackles, and a tree trunk protector are what I'd get in addition to the snatch block. The tree trunk protector is handy for attaching the snatch block to (with one of the shackles) for redirecting a pull angle or for more winching capacity. A good set of leather gloves from the local hardware store too for when you are handling the winch's wire rope.

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I'm going to 4 wheel parts on Saturday to pick up some stuff. I recently installed my first winch on my TJ, the warn m8000.

I want to get the 48' hi lift jack, a snatch block, and anything else winch related that I may need.

So, what do I get?
I'm going to get the 18,000 smittybilt snatch block.
Can I use a tow strap instead of a tree truck protector?

What else do I need for my winch? I'm very new at this...
The difference between a tow strap and a tree saver is the width of the strap. using a wider strap spreads the load on the tree, which is compairativly "fragile" in such that if you cut through the skin all the way around the tree will die. Or at least this is my understanding from biology.

You wouldn't want to use a tree saver as a tow strap because of its large size, its awkward to try to wrap around the frame, or whatever.
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and a tree saver should be static so when winching on it it wont move, where as a snatch rope or strap is dynamic and needs to have give.
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A 20' 2" hookless (sewn loops, no steel hooks) snatch strap, a couple 3/4" shackles, and a tree trunk protector are what I'd get in addition to the snatch block. The tree trunk protector is handy for attaching the snatch block to (with one of the shackles) for redirecting a pull angle or for more winching capacity. A good set of leather gloves from the local hardware store too for when you are handling the winch's wire rope.
I'm a little confused about the snatch strap. What do I use that for?
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A snatch strap is also known as a recovery strap. That type of strap is what you use when helping another Jeep up an obstacle or helping him get unstuck when you don't need or can't properly position yourself to use the winch. This type of strap has just a little bit of built in "give" (stretch) so it won't damage either vehicle if you have to give it a short running start if it not an easy retrieval.

It's common to use a recovery (snatch) strap instead of winching most of the time. I strapped 3 Jeeps up steep climbs this past weekend but never used my winch.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:56 AM   #7
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Don't forget the cable dampener, you don't want that steel cable flying back at your face at 100mph. That would ruin any trail run.
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A snatch strap is also known as a recovery strap. That type of strap is what you use when helping another Jeep up an obstacle or helping him get unstuck when you don't need or can't properly position yourself to use the winch. This type of strap has just a little bit of built in "give" (stretch) so it won't damage either vehicle if you have to give it a short running start if it not an easy retrieval.

It's common to use a recovery (snatch) strap instead of winching most of the time. I strapped 3 Jeeps up steep climbs this past weekend but never used my winch.
Wow. I've never heard of that. It makes sense though.
And this is getting more expensive than I realized!

So here's what I got:
Snatch block
Snatch strap, no hooks
Couple 3/4 shackles
Tree saver
Gloves

Anything else? Or is this a pretty good start?
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THat's a pretty good start and actually all you normally will ever need.

Now did you and everyone else who read this thread vote for Kate's Jeep as below?
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Wow. I've never heard of that. It makes sense though.
And this is getting more expensive than I realized!

So here's what I got:
Snatch block
Snatch strap, no hooks
Couple 3/4 shackles
Tree saver
Gloves

Anything else? Or is this a pretty good start?
I'd say that's a good start. Find a buddy do some wheeling, and you'll find out what else you need along the way. Good all on the gloves first time i isemy winch i got a lovely little metal splinter...it got infected and i went to the hospital for a tetnus shot! First thing i did after that was get some good leather gloves. As they say you live and you learn.
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Actually one more reccomendation...a bag or something to carry it all in! And if theft is a problem maybe just a bicycle lock to keep it in the jeep.
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One more thing, when spooling the line back on the winch keep your hands off that cable. Just hold onto the hook or use a safety strap. I've seen what can happen if that cable catches your glove and pulls your hand onto the spool. I stay about 5' or 6' away from the winch when I'm guiding the cable then grab the safety strap on the hook once it gets down to the last 10' or so.
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Another question.

Does it matter what snatch block you have? I was looking at the smittybilt 18,000 block, which is $25. But if you look at Warn, they're over $100.

Does it really matter?
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You may also want a TOW STRAP, which is a flat, 3" wide or so strap (doesn't 'give' compared to a snatch strap). It is great for when your winch is not long enough to get to the vehicle, usually 20' long and 20,000# MINIMUM, get 30,000# if you can find it. Generally on sale for $20 at Tractor Supply Warehouse stores.
As for the snatch block, price isn't an indication of quality...most of them are made in China anyways. The Smittbilt will be more than adequate.
For storage, go to Home Depot and get one of those 'tool bags' that look like a doctors bag-sometimes with a DeWalt label on them-always on sale there cheap. Works great and they fit in the 'trunk' behind the rear seat of a wrangler nicely. Then you still have room for a set of handwrenchs, a socket set, vice grips, rubber mallet, tire repair kit....you will fill it up eventually with everything you need on the trail!
Don't forget the jumper cables...always SOMEBODY on the trail that goes dead....
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You may also want to look into getting a Max Ax Multi Purpose Tool, or at least carry a shovel around with you.
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It may be easier to buy the Warn winching kit, it has all the aforementioned items. I carry extra straps and D-rings. One more item I carry when going to sandy desert areas (a Danforth stlye boat anchor). Sounds funny, but beats digging and burying your spare tire.

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