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Old 01-25-2010, 04:00 PM   #1
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Need tires but debating...

Hey guys and gals..
I have a 1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0L with a 4" susp lift and 1.25" body lift. I DID have a 3" body lift but it looked too bad for me so I went with 1.25" body lift.. I have 35" tires and 3.73 gears... (I know it's bad) and I am in deep doo doo, badly, needing new tires.. Since my gear ratio is low my friends are considering me getting 33" tires.. (I don't really want to down grade) but I don't know how it will look considering I have had 35" tires for awhile now..

I was planning on doing an axle swap sooner or later.. (Ford 8.8, 4.88 gears for 35" tires) but I'm just not sure how long it will be considering I'm in college and have no job... applying at some places now though. Once and if I get the money I will defiantly be doing it..

With money so short SHOULD I get 33x12.50r15 tires?? I just don't know how it will look, you know? Some jeeps look too bad with smaller tires.. IMO..

I just need some advice whether to go with 33" tires or get another set of 35's and just break everything... (would rather save up for the axle swap then going in debt for it)..

Lastly - Anyone have pictures of 33" tires 4" suspension lift and 1.25" body lift?? I mean I guess I could take the body lift off and just stay with 4" suspension with 33's until money flows in.. (whenever that will be)

I just need some opinions...
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33's won't look bad, and since money is an issue just keep your eyes on craigslist. i see so many sweet deals on tires go through all the time, and thats where i got the 33's bfg m/t for one of mine in good shape all 5 and i payed 200 or less i can't remember exactly all i remember is it was stupid cheap.

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Hey guys and gals..
I have a 1998 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4.0L with a 4" susp lift and 1.25" body lift. I DID have a 3" body lift but it looked too bad for me so I went with 1.25" body lift.. I have 35" tires and 3.73 gears... (I know it's bad) and I am in deep doo doo, badly, needing new tires.. Since my gear ratio is low my friends are considering me getting 33" tires.. (I don't really want to down grade) but I don't know how it will look considering I have had 35" tires for awhile now..

I was planning on doing an axle swap sooner or later.. (Ford 8.8, 4.88 gears for 35" tires) but I'm just not sure how long it will be considering I'm in college and have no job... applying at some places now though. Once and if I get the money I will defiantly be doing it..

With money so short SHOULD I get 33x12.50r15 tires?? I just don't know how it will look, you know? Some jeeps look too bad with smaller tires.. IMO..

I just need some advice whether to go with 33" tires or get another set of 35's and just break everything... (would rather save up for the axle swap then going in debt for it)..

Lastly - Anyone have pictures of 33" tires 4" suspension lift and 1.25" body lift?? I mean I guess I could take the body lift off and just stay with 4" suspension with 33's until money flows in.. (whenever that will be)

I just need some opinions...
Thanks
Anything will be appreciated!
Here's mine. 4.25" suspension, 1" body, 33" tires. There's room for 35's, but I don't want to regear until I long arm it and put new axles under it. And I don't want to break anything until then.
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I have a 97 tj with 3.5 " superflex lift (equal to anybodies 4" lift) and a 1.25 JKS body lift with 33" MTRs in the pic.Im in the process of switching over to 35,s.The gap above the tires to the fender flares is a little large,but not horrible.Actually,the cost difference between 33,s and 35,s for a 15 inch rim isnt enough to make a difference.The gearing does need to go,Im runniing 4.11 gears,and plan on changing to 4.56 or 4.88 later on.After I decide If I really like the 35,s.
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Old 01-25-2010, 04:27 PM   #5
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Exactly what I'm looking for guys! Cavediverjc I love the look of that! I also have stock flares and I like it. Wondering if you have any other angle pics? Could you pm me if not much trouble? Thanks

willysmb - I like the look, but I don't have extended fender flares on my jeep.. I'm assuming yours are 6" flares?

jpdocdave - I have been looking for 33's in my area, saw a guy with 4 33" tsl swampers for 60$... I opened it and they were all bald I was disappointed lol but I'm still looking!

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Here's mine. 4.25" suspension, 1" body, 33" tires. There's room for 35's, but I don't want to regear until I long arm it and put new axles under it. And I don't want to break anything until then.
Damn that looks good!! What tires are those?
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Damn that looks good!! What tires are those?
I think those are the baja tires..
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I think those are the baja tires..
baja claws lol 2 be specific lol
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Yeah, they're Mickey Thompson Baja Claw Radials. I've had them for almost 2 years now. I love them. They wear well, offer awesome grip offroad, and balanced extremely easily. I have a hardtop, so I don't notice the tire noise too much. I know it's not too bad, since I have the top off from time to time in the spring/summer.
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Exactly what I'm looking for guys! Cavediverjc I love the look of that! I also have stock flares and I like it. Wondering if you have any other angle pics? Could you pm me if not much trouble? Thanks

willysmb - I like the look, but I don't have extended fender flares on my jeep.. I'm assuming yours are 6" flares?

jpdocdave - I have been looking for 33's in my area, saw a guy with 4 33" tsl swampers for 60$... I opened it and they were all bald I was disappointed lol but I'm still looking!

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Lol.......I had to throw in the pic of my Jeep eating a Mustang. Over $8k worth of damage to his car and NO DAMAGE AT ALL TO MY JEEP.
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how in the hell did that happen?
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how in the hell did that happen?
The crash? He was in the middle of the road and I was on loose sand. They sand the roads at Fort Riley for traction in ice. He got a ticket. I did not. Sucks to be him, especially since he was the Command Sergeant Major for the base JAG unit. (In the end, his attitude was in check.)
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Haha that's funny about the Mustang.. I got in a wreck awhile back and ran in the back of somebody and her trunk and everything was gone. I only had a little dent on my fender from where my fog light snapped off and hit it.. lol

Thanks for the pics too! I might be going with 33's..
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[QUOTE=willysmb - I like the look, but I don't have extended fender flares on my jeep.. I'm assuming yours are 6" flares?

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]

Yup 6" warn flares,didnt want issues getting the jeep inspection or throwing mud/rocks.
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Heres mine with 4" coils and Acos adjusters which is about another 1.25 inches and 33 MTRs.
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Thanks.
I have noticed that the 33's on about 5.25" lift have much more clearance than the 35's... That's what I like, but it just looks kinda weird with the big gap, but I might be fallling into it.
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I like it. I run smaller bump stops and have more flex till I stuff them. I still can rub the 33 on the fenders front and back. Also the jeep is happier with the 4.0L, 3.73 gears and a 5 spd. I still get around 17 on the freeway at 75 and 11-13 around town depending on how heavy my foot gets.

Here's a pic of the front stuffed.
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Nice. I found on craigslist 4 33" bfg all terrains for 300$ he said they have about 70-80% tread left... Haven't heard back from him about the pictures... I was hoping for some m/t's but oh well. lol
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4 inch lift with 33's
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your gearing has nothing to do with whether or not you will break something. I have 3.73's and it is fine, the problem is if you have a D35.
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I do have a D35.. Ford 8.8 coming in whenever I find the money.
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well personally I would go with 35's. I have 35's and a D35, im working on a 8.8 as well. I just know it is back there and I winch out at any sign of having to spin my wheels really fast.
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33's on a 4.5 RE Long Arm with 3/4 in. spacer.

I'm in the same boat - could fit 35's, but don't want to push the D30 & D35 axles.

I'd also highly recommend the BFG M/T KM2's - love them...super quiet on the road and amazing off-road.

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Old 01-26-2010, 07:37 PM   #24
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somemoore, are your tire's width 10.50? or 12.50?
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This is my cursed 1988 YJ. I just rolled it to 80,000 original miles this week. Unless you need NEED new tires right now, I think you need to put in a Dana 44 or a Ford 8.8 first. My Jeep has never ran anything bigger than what I currently have on it, 33x12.50R15 since it was bought in December 1987, but at 75,000miles my Dana 35 went ka-chunk. It was 3.55 ratio and the ring and pinion both lost teeth. I tried to find a Dana 44 at first but after realizing they are almost impossible to find I went with the Ford 8.8 and I couldn't be happier. I believe it is 32 spline opposed to 28 spline on my Dana 35. It is far smoother than my Dana rear end ever was, I gained rear disc breaks, and it is nearly as strong as the Dana 60. Just make sure to have the tubes welded if you put one on. The Ford 8.8 is an extremely easy swap as long as you can get the hardware from the donor Explorer. The stock Jeep ebrake cables can be reused on YJs, not sure about the newer jeeps. The Ford 8.8 comes in most factory jeep gear ratios so you can swap the rear without re-gearing the front and you can tell what gear ratio a rear axle is as well as if it is open, limited, or locked just by the axle code on the Vehicle Identification Tag inside the driver door jam. Beats crawling under everything and trying to read tags.

I did my rear end in December and I bought my new tires this week. My originals were BF Goodrich M/T KM. I replaced them with the BFG Mud Terrain KM2s this time and I couldn't be happier. I went for a run outside of Vegas to test them out and They did great! They didn't chunk out the first time I put them to the rocks like my original KMs did, they didn't float as bad going through standing water, they don't throw rocks, were awesome in the mud as expected, and they also do good in the snow. They borrowed a few features from the BFG Baja tires to make the KM2 a more All-Terrain/Off-road tire. They are also much smoother and quieter than their predecessors....I can here my radio on the freeway now. lol!




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somemoore, are your tire's width 10.50? or 12.50?
They are 33x12.5x15's
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mudin, that's a nice YJ. I wanted to do a 8.8 conversion awhile back but my tires are BALD. The front tires have half bald and some tread (alignment, needed a tie rod) and they are all just dry rotted.

I heard back from the guy with the 33's with a picture.. They look nice, I will post it up on here later today to get yall's opinion on them.

Thanks again guys.
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The Dana35 to Ford 8.8 conversion can be done for less than the cost of one of my tires, if you know how to do everything yourself and for around the price of 2 tires if you have it installed at a shop.

I got my 8.8 at Nevada Pick-A-Part for $140 with a $20 core deposit. I had a friend help me pull it out of the donor Explorer. Who would have thought something off an Ford Explorer would be useful? Rofl! With the 33x12.5's on it you can't see a width difference or a difference how high my rear sits.

You should beef-up your steering gear to the aftermarket 1-ton stuff. Mud tires are too expensive to drive around on with a bad alignment.



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Yeah but for the TJ's conversion there is ALOT more stuff than compared to the YJ... brackets, ecable, all that junk... but I got pics of the tires...

Said they were a little dry rotted and I was thinking about taking my body lift off because I don't do THAT much offroading... and besides, it IS my DD.. but any points on taking it off would help maybe a guide or something.

And I know the rims will not fit, they are off of a Chevy but I'll just use my old ones.. but from the pics, the tires look in good shape to handle about 30-35k miles..

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The Dana35 to Ford 8.8 conversion can be done for less than the cost of one of my tires, if you know how to do everything yourself and for around the price of 2 tires if you have it installed at a shop.

I got my 8.8 at Nevada Pick-A-Part for $140 with a $20 core deposit. I had a friend help me pull it out of the donor Explorer. Who would have thought something off an Ford Explorer would be useful? Rofl! With the 33x12.5's on it you can't see a width difference or a difference how high my rear sits.
The cost of a tire? Maybe if you were able to duct tape it in.

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