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Old 06-17-2009, 08:43 PM   #1
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Good evening fellas. I have a buddy who has a stock 2000 Sahara; he has a bad clutch and the guy at the auto part shop is trying to sell him a more expensive "Centerforce Dual Friction" clutch and told him that it would perform better than with a regular original jeep clutch. What advatages/ disadvantages would the "Centerforce Dual Friction" clutch have over an original?

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Old 06-17-2009, 09:02 PM   #2
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I'm still running my stock clutch but see this thread:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/need...ert-27993.html

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Old 06-17-2009, 09:40 PM   #3
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Don't even consider the high-$$$ clutches from Centerforce, they are not designed for the uses that are typical for a Jeep. They use centrifugal weights that hook the clutch up tighter but only at high rpms like are encountered in racing applications.

Better, as jdhallissey amd snwchris recommend, is a York brand clutch kit. Available for only $135-140 from Dial-A-Clutch - Your LuK Clutch Kit Specialist the kit includes the clutch disk, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and pilot shaft... all you need for a clutch job.

Luk is the OE manufacturer of the clutches installed into Jeeps at the factory and they have an excellent reputation... over 200K miles is not unusual for them at all. As a precaution before doing a tough trail in Johnson Valley, I installed a new Luk clutch into my TJ when it had 166,000 miles on it and that was with some very tough rock crawling and lots of clutch smoke on some trails. What was surprising was the original clutch, with 166,000 miles on it, was in surprisingly good condition with probably at least 25-30K more miles of life left on it.

Go with Luk... it's priced right and is a very heavy-duty clutch that will hold up well to anything you can throw at it. Avoid the temptation to go with the more expensive Pro-Gold version of the Luk clutch, that is more for truck applications and it can be noisy in a TJ.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:43 PM   #4
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The stock one does really well. I think mine had 150k or there about and was still doing well.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:00 PM   #5
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My buddy almost shelled out 400 bones on the Centerforce clutch. Thanks for the guidance you guys are great!
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Good evening fellas. I have a buddy who has a stock 2000 Sahara; he has a bad clutch and the guy at the auto part shop is trying to sell him a more expensive "Centerforce Dual Friction" clutch and told him that it would perform better than with a regular original jeep clutch. What advatages/ disadvantages would the "Centerforce Dual Friction" clutch have over an original?

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The auto parts shop is wrong, Centerforce clutches are designed with a cetrifugal mechanism to make them lock up harder with high rpms like for high HP/high rpm racing applications. It's also nearly double the cost of what is really needed for a Jeep. It's not a good clutch for a Jeep though it is good for a race vehicle.

Have him stick with the OE Luk brand clutch. Mine had over 167,000 miles on it when I decided to change it but when I got it out, it was plain to see it had plenty of life on it and it could easily have gone over 200K miles.

Have him get a complete Luk clutch kit for around $140 from Dial-A-Clutch - Your LuK Clutch Kit Specialist which includes the clutch disk, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing, and pilot shaft.

My OE clutch, made by Luk, withstood MAJOR abuse in the 167,000 miles it was in my Jeep and was literally smoked many times while rock crawling. He will not be able to replace his clutch with a better clutch than a Luk.

Here's a good photo of my TJ with clutch smoke pouring out of it several years before I replaced. It wasn't slipping when I decided to replace it, it was just out of concern over a major rock crawling trip coming up where I didn't want a clutch with so many miles on it possibly going out and causing trouble for everyone.
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