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Old 08-28-2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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New AEV Nth degree lift???

I brought it up in another thread but received little response. Just trying to find someone on here that is running the nth lift, either new or old system. Mostly all I can find are reviews by people who dont even have the lift. Any actual experience with the lift would be greatly appreciated.

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Over priced.... greatly.

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Over priced.... greatly.
I thought you were running the RE kit?
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Yeah once again comments by someone who doesnt own it. As for overpriced, show me another lift that includes a diff slider, huge tummy tuck, dog leg control arms, rear shock relocation brackets, spring seat correction, awesome nth degree disco's(which i have seen in action being hooked up on an unlevel jeep), and more I know but thats just off the top of my head. All those extras that I want anyways, and the price is right. People just look at the overall price and dismiss it rather than sitting down and actually comparing it. I have compared FT, RE(I currently have the short arm lift and dont want RE again, sorry, just personal opinion) and Claytons, and nth still comes out on top, side by side on my list. Sorry for the rant but my objective here is to get an opinion on both on and off road use of the nth degree lift by someone who has actually used it! Thanks!
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I thought you were running the RE kit?
Compared to AEV, RE is a bargain.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:38 AM   #6
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Does nobody here have any first hand experience with this lift?
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To be on topic, I don't believe anyone on this forum runs an Nth lift... sorry.
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:16 AM   #8
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Coyote you can be the first! Sounds like you already are convinced anyway. Even if others say it's terrible you'll argue.

So do it and let us know how it turns out.
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A friend of mine used to run nth degree before nth degree was owned by aev
the lift worked well off road and rode well on road the lift costed him around $6-7,000 with install
the cost is just to much
He no longer owns that jeep he went to the darkside and bout a 84 toyota truggy


I would get something else for half the cost and save the rest of the money for other mods

if its the high clearance control arms you can get rock krawler it also comes with a skidplate

rubicon express, T&T customs, gen right, poly performance, claytons
all of them are good lifts kits

Its just my oppinion but you can buy alot of mods with the money you save by going with someone else's long arm kit


the nth degree kit is a great kit and would be a better kit if the price was a little lower $3800 is to high for a lift kit
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There is a reason they went out of bizness... product as nice it may have been , was not a value compared to what else was on the market, in the eyes of the consumer. If it had been they would still be around, vs having to be bought out by a high end niche company such as AEV.
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I saw one that ramped a little better than my RELA's.

But - I have yet to see a ramp in the desert or mountains.
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The price definitely is negative factor and is making me greatly consider either RE or Rock krawler. Any input? The Rock krawler looks so basic compared to the RE, thats the only problem, but simple isnt always bad. I have heard a lot of good about RE, what about the RK? How is it on-road and off-road, and how are those "Monster Bushings"?
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The price definitely is negative factor and is making me greatly consider either RE or Rock krawler. Any input? The Rock krawler looks so basic compared to the RE, thats the only problem, but simple isnt always bad. I have heard a lot of good about RE, what about the RK? How is it on-road and off-road, and how are those "Monster Bushings"?
keep it simple stupid (thats how the saying goes, not calling you stupid) . RK in my opinion is one of the best out you can get... and I wheel with jeeps that wheel with all the lifts you mentioned. RK ftw in the rocks.

get out and wheel with others who have the lifts your asking about. see for yourself which is best for you. Or visit us here in AZ and we'll show you around the trails or check out some of our threads in the photo and trail run sections of this forum.

my RK tj is a good daily driver too
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:03 PM   #15
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Im familiar with "KISS" Thats definitely a plus as long as it works. As for wheeling with people, I am deployed right now and my goal is to do the suspension lift, clutch, sye, rear axle swap, regear front and rear with lockers, and a few other odds and ends in two weeks while on leave right when I get back, so I have to make these decisions out here so everything will be there when I get home ready to go. I have wheeled with people in the past with different lifts, but since I wasnt shopping then I didnt really pay attention
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I'll second (or third ) the RockKrawler lift. Do a quick search around here about RockKrawler and you'll find that a lot of the members here are also running RK.

Also, Nth/AEV aren't the only one's with those fancy high clearance control arms.





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Scout, how does that handle on the road? I was looking at reviews and someone said RK feels like an empty dumptruck
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I'm not familiar with the RK, but it looks to be pretty good. 3 link front eliminates the binding of the 4 link RE.

Looks like articulation is more than the RE, but too much twist is a negative too.

It said good for 33's, only 33's? It looks like it should be capable of much bigger. Or did I look at the wrong one?

I'd sure like to see one in action before blessing it, but it seems to be complete.


How it handles in the street is a concern too - too much flex and over you go!
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Scout, how does that handle on the road? I was looking at reviews and someone said RK feels like an empty dumptruck
It great on the road. If they're saying that then they don't have something setup properly. That could happen to any kit if you screws something up when installing it or damage something when using it. It rides 10 times better than the 4" SA lift I had before.
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I'm not familiar with the RK, but it looks to be pretty good. 3 link front eliminates the binding of the 4 link RE.

Looks like articulation is more than the RE, but too much twist is a negative too.

It said good for 33's, only 33's? It looks like it should be capable of much bigger. Or did I look at the wrong one?

I'd sure like to see one in action before blessing it, but it seems to be complete.


How it handles in the street is a concern too - too much flex and over you go!
33's? I'm running 36's and have room to run much more tire than that if I wanted to. I stayed with 36's as I didn't want to overload the Dana 44's.

Like I just posted above, the ride is nice and it handles very well. You just need to make sure that if you're running disconnects that you have them connected on the street and if you're running an A/R or similar that it isn't set on the loosest setting.
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Thanks scout! I am currently running a 4in SA so I figure any long arm would be a better ride. Well I guess I am pretty sold on RK. Scout one more question, I see the RK comes with either short or long rear UCA and references something about not having to modify exhaust but cant find out which one that refers too. Any recommendations of the short or long uppers? Will it make a difference in performance or ride quality?
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Actually I think when I bought mine the only option was the long rear uppers. Expect to modify your exhaust no matter what LA kit you get though.
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I dont have any hands on experience but have found some pics of the Nth lift on some dude's JK.
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to see more pictures of the RK long arm in action check out my webshots albums.

The Nth and RE long arms can be found in those photo albums too along with some RK wheelbase stretch photos.

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Thanks scout! I am currently running a 4in SA so I figure any long arm would be a better ride. Well I guess I am pretty sold on RK. Scout one more question, I see the RK comes with either short or long rear UCA and references something about not having to modify exhaust but cant find out which one that refers too. Any recommendations of the short or long uppers? Will it make a difference in performance or ride quality?
definately get the long upper arms in the rear. Yes you have to have some exhaust work done to get around the arms but its nothing major. Actually, I'm not sure if RK still sells the short uppers with longer lower rear arms. The problem with that setup is that the shorter arms travel in a different arc than the longer arms and can cause binding. You'll get the best ride and flex using the long upper and lowers together.

Good luck on your decision making and have a safe return home.
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rock krawler is a great lift I had RK in my xj and I run RK on my mj

I have ran the Rubicon express lift ans its a great lift but I would run rock krawler before I would run rubicon express
but thats just me

heres the xj that has a rock krawler lift



and my comanche with the rock krawler lift


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Thanks scout! I found the answer, the short uppers keep you from modifying your exhaust but require you to modify the uca mount by welding, so i will go long and change my exhaust.
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Thanks to everyone else as well for the input, I've decided on the RK, and also thanks for saving me almost $2k on a lift
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I dont have any hands on experience but have found some pics of the Nth lift on some dude's JK.
Here's some of mine on a forklift.











Dollar for dollar the RK is hard to beat.
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Scout how do you like those tires? What kinda mileage are you getting on them? Im trying to decide between the Mickey claws and the MTZ

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