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Old 05-23-2013, 01:32 PM   #1
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New guy with a few questions

Hey guys, I'm Nick, and I'm joining here on behalf of my girlfriend, who has a 2000 4cyl auto. She doesn't know much about cars in general, and I'm a car guy, but I don't really know much about Jeeps, or really American cars in general, I'm more into the German cars. I took some pics of the Jeep (and girlfriend) last night so I can show it off that I'll post once I get them edited. Now, on to the questions.

First of which, is there some kind of trick with using the 4wd? I've never had a car with the selectable 4wd, and I can't figure this one out. We tried using it last night, doing a little offroading, and I pulled the lever up to 4H, and nothing seemed to happen, which I didn't really expect to feel much of a difference with the 4H. When I pulled it to the 4L when we got a little stuck, the part time light came on, but it seemed like it wouldn't go all the way in gear. It was kind of like a having a manual car not all the way in gear. It made a grinding noise and just stayed put. Luckily I got out by just putting it back in RWD and easing it out. I just wanted to figure out the 4wd like how it works and what it's supposed to do and feel like when I move that lever around, because we had a blast out on the trails, and want to do it again.

My next question is about the turn signals. She tells me that they work most of the time, but, it makes the clicking sound almost constantly, and sometimes the blinker will get stuck on. I'm kind of baffled by it, honestly. My only thought would be a relay, but i wanted to see what you guys thought first.

My last question is about the top. It's an aftermarket top, Best Top Supertop I believe, but an older version. I got the model number off it, it's the 5170935, and googled it and came up with very little info. It looks like they updated it on the Best Top site, because that number doesn't bring up anything on it. Mainly, we're trying to figure out if we can just fold the top down, rather than just taking it completely off. It looks to me like you can, but we haven't tried it, I just wanted to see if someone here has that top and knows anything at all about it.

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:47 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forum bud!

I can try to answer some of your questions BUT I would highly recommend reading the owners manual that may have came with the jeep. It answers alot of mechanical questions (which was the first thing I did when I got my jeep last summer). When using 4HI, a light in your dash with show up as part time, thats normal. You know your in 4HI when you try to turn your wheels and you meet some resistance. If your gonna go in 4Low, its highly recommended that you place your jeep in neutral and on flat soft ground and not use 4x4 on regular pavement. 4Low will rev higher and you don't want to go fast(mainly used when stuck or need that extra torque) with that where as 4HI allows up to 80KM/H (some say there is no top end on that as well).

Turn signal may be a problem with the multi-switch. Being a 2000 Jeep, it may need replacement possibly but check with others on that.

I have a factory top so I won't even go into aftermarket issues as I don't know... I suggest using the search option near the top of your screen for specifics that may help further.

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Old 05-23-2013, 02:20 PM   #3
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So the part time light should come on for the 4HI, cause it only came on when I put it in 4Low, I'm thinking that something might be amiss with the linkage or the diff. I'll check out the manual when she comes over tonight, and try it again. the only AWD systems I'm familiar with are Audi Quattro, and Subaru, which are always on, so this is new to me ahaha. Thanks, for the info!

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So the part time light should come on for the 4HI, cause it only came on when I put it in 4Low, I'm thinking that something might be amiss with the linkage or the diff. I'll check out the manual when she comes over tonight, and try it again. the only AWD systems I'm familiar with are Audi Quattro, and Subaru, which are always on, so this is new to me ahaha. Thanks, for the info!

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Np, but the part time light comes on for 4HI and 4Low... there will never be a light that comes on for full time just to clear the air but ya, read and read read that manual. Very handy for someone who is new at 4x4'ing which I am and still...
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:39 PM   #5
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Pictures of the Jeep, and the Lady as promised:


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Old 05-23-2013, 11:42 PM   #6
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Pictures of the Jeep, and the Lady as promised:


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Nice jeep, you got some work ahead of you. The woman.... Apparently you put in yer time. Very cute.
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Old 05-24-2013, 08:59 AM   #7
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Thanks man, haha. Yeah It's a work in progress. I've been checking out pretty much every accessory possible for it. The first things on the list are some new seats or possibly some nice covers, a new side marker, since I smashed the one when we were on the trails the other day, and maybe some new wheels and tires, since her tires are going to need to be changed out soon. What's the bolt pattern for Wranglers anyways? And also, I'm correct in thinking that all the parts from wranglers up to '06 will be a direct fit for the most part?

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Old 05-24-2013, 09:08 AM   #8
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Nice looking jeep and sharp lil lady. Nice photos as well. Do you or anyone else know what type of light bar that is on your jeep? I have not see one that mounts up that high in the window frame before. Just curious.

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Thanks, man! I've been doing freelance photog for a little while. I just set up a photog FB page, here's the link if you want to check out some of my other stuff :https://www.facebook.com/NThomasPhotography

As for that light bar, I'll check it out at lunch and get back to you

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Old 05-24-2013, 10:30 AM   #10
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I have the same issue with my blinker. Mine works great if you are turning right or left, but when you turn left and are stopped with the brake smashed all the way down it just stays lit and doesn't blink. I wanted to wait until I picked up the intermittent windshield wiper switch before I tore into the steering column, but since I have neither the money or the part, I will try to dismantle just the blinker switch this weekend and figure out what's wrong. I thought I read somewhere that it it may be a problem with the contacts. I will update with more information and pics. Hopefully it's an easy fix!
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Old 05-24-2013, 10:41 AM   #11
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The blinker problem most likely means the previous owner let it out in the rain with the top down 1 or more times.

I left mine out, same thing happened to me. It goes away after a couple months, especially if you leave it in the sun to dry out. Still starts clicking randomly every once in a while, but the signals work fine.

If you wanted it fixed completely though, it could be an issue with the relay like you said, or the clock spring.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:39 PM   #12
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Nice looking jeep and sharp lil lady. Nice photos as well. Do you or anyone else know what type of light bar that is on your jeep? I have not see one that mounts up that high in the window frame before. Just curious.

Sam in IN
I found out it's a Carr light bar. I did a quick google search, and couldn't find the exact one

Thanks for all the info guys

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Hey guys, another question. The exhaust hose running from the muffler to the tailpipe, did Jeep purposely use the flimsiest material possible for that? Apparently we sheered half of that off when we were on the trails last week. There's gotta be something a little more heavy duty than that. I'll do some searching around at some point today too.
Also, I found out yesterday from the lady's grandparents that the 4Low doesn't actually work. Something about the linkage, her grandfather wasn't too specific, but I'm going to check it out once we have a day here where it isn't raining and miserable haha

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Hey guys, another question. The exhaust hose running from the muffler to the tailpipe, did Jeep purposely use the flimsiest material possible for that? Apparently we sheered half of that off when we were on the trails last week. There's gotta be something a little more heavy duty than that. I'll do some searching around at some point today too.
Also, I found out yesterday from the lady's grandparents that the 4Low doesn't actually work. Something about the linkage, her grandfather wasn't too specific, but I'm going to check it out once we have a day here where it isn't raining and miserable haha

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Might wanna re word your "exhaust hose" before you get flamed to death and get accused of having muffler bearings!
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Might wanna re word your "exhaust hose" before you get flamed to death and get accused of having muffler bearings!
ahahah, that's the thing, I would've called it a pipe if were an actual pipe, this thing looks like HVAC ducting, or like a long section of flex pipe. I'm wondering if it was a patch job by the previous owner or something, because I don't see it coming like that from the factory. I'll post pics of it when I get a chance

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Welcome to the forum! As far as the 4wd mines a little tricky to use as well, you have to almost go to neutral in the T-case then back down to put her in 4 Hi. Also your 4wd not engaging would have to be in your T-Case, nothing else could really cause it not to engage.

Also bolt pattern is 5 on 4.5 and if you don't like the exhaust, get an aftermarket one! And the blinker is prbly a blow blinker fuse, just get a new 4 pin fuse and swap it out for the one under the steering column, took me 5 minutes to change when putting in my LED tail lights.

Now any question you have, literally, has prbly been asked, and answered on either this or Jeepforum. For the sanity of us all, please do your homework and do some serious digging before creating a thread. If you don't, your prbly going to get verbally battered hahahaha. But anyways, it's great to have you! Nice jeep and woman! Your lucky you can spend money on the jeep and say it's for her..... I don't get that luxury.
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Might wanna re word your "exhaust hose" before you get flamed to death and get accused of having muffler bearings!
It's important to grease your muffler bearings at least every 30k...


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