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Old 03-08-2012, 12:45 AM   #1
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New Jeep driver looking for some advice

I'm sixteen and inherited a 98 wrangler from my sister. I want to get a lift kit and I was thinking a 3-4" lift. I unfortunately don't have tons of money to spend so I was wondering what you all thought would be a good setup. Right now I've got 30" tires and I am looking to go up to 33". Thanks a lot guys!

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Old 03-08-2012, 12:48 AM   #2
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A budget boost might be just what you are looking for. Not too expensive, and will improve the look of your jeep and increase some flex offroad. Check out lift kits at quadratrec.com they are organized by size, so that's perfect for you. Best of luck!

http://www.quadratec.com/advisor/jeep_lift_kits/


And here are some budget kits:
http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...58+0009~&hr=lk

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Specs about the Jeep. What motor Trans? What kind of wheeling do you do our plan on doing. I have 33's on a 2" BB (Budget Boost) its coil spacers. But you need more then a 2" lift to effectively run 33's. I'm looking at getting a 4" lift. And what rear diff do you have
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If you do the BB don't forget to trim your fender flares. Also, if you put 33s on there you'll probably need to buy rims with less backspacing as well.
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As you will quickly find out. Putting on a 3"+ lift and the tires to fit takes a lot more than just buying the lift kit. SYE, driveshaft, adjustable control arms, steering upgrade, brake upgrade. These are not "required" so you can take the cheap way out and keep everything else relativity stock and use the t-case drop mounts. But I hope you will look at keeping your Jeep reliable as you want to keep it throughout high school. It's not to say people have not done this and been just fine. Every Jeep is different and something that works for one might not work the same for another.

I suggest a 2" budget boost and 31-32" tires on new wheels with less backspacing. Then get a front bumper. That should give the old Jeep a real nice look that will still be real driveable. If you really want 33's then add a 1.25" body lift. This will let you clear 33's but you will start to really feel the loss of power in the jeep with stock gearing in the axles.

As Bone said, if you go with a 33x12.5 tire you will need new wheels with less backspacing(or wheel spacers) to keep from rubbing the tires and keeping your turn radius.
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"Some advise"

DON'T LIFT IT!

Up grade the parts as you need them; such as shocks.
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Specs about the Jeep. What motor Trans? What kind of wheeling do you do our plan on doing. I have 33's on a 2" BB (Budget Boost) its coil spacers. But you need more then a 2" lift to effectively run 33's. I'm looking at getting a 4" lift. And what rear diff do you have
Im not gonna lie, im not sure what the my jeeps motor trans is, we bought it used and as far as I know everything is stock. I was thinking 1" spacers and I'm running the Dana 35. What are some good budget spacer kits? I was looking at the teraflex (Teraflex 001341200 - TeraFlex 2" Budget Boost Lift Kit without Shocks for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec) and the Rubicon (Rubicon Express 2" Economy Kit with Twin Tube Shocks for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec). And if i do get Teraflex i would need new shocks so what are some good relatively inexpensive ones?
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BTW just telling us if it is the 4cylinder or 6 and auto or manual we can tell you what tranny you got. What model is it, SE, Sport, other?

Trying to find the cheapest stuff for you to lift the Jeep. Look on craigslist for cheap used lift kits and tires. Though always try to replace as many bushings as you can on used stuff before you install it and find out their bad.

2" Spacers for front and rear. $60
Amazon.com: Jeep Wrangler TJ 2" Budget Boost Lift Kit Spacers 97-06: Automotive

2" rear bumpstops $20 (you can cut bumpstops to length if their to big)
1997-06 TJ Wrangler 2 Bumpstops by Rubicon Express [R/ERE1385] - $19.99 : Mud-N-Rocks!, Off Road Store

2" front bumpstops $28
2 Bumpstops by Rubicon Express [R/ERE1380] - $27.99 : Mud-N-Rocks!, Off Road Store


ZJ tie rod upgrade $75 (Optional but highly recommended)
TIE ROD LONG KIT ZJ V8 [18054.09] - $75.99 : Mud-N-Rocks!, Off Road Store
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BTW, the teraflex lift is really only a 1.5" spacer. Also with the proper bumpstops you won't need new shocks but you will get more articulation and a better ride with them.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:08 PM   #11
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Rough Country Hydro 8000's and Procomp ES1000's are probably the cheapest at $30 a piece.
RC Hydro 8000 Series Rear Shock [RCH8000R] - $29.95 : The JeepHut - Jeep Parts, Accesories, Gifts, Replacement Parts, Overstock, Surplus, Scratch/Dent, Jeep related parts, accessories and gifts for Jeep CJ, Wrangler YJ, TJ, JK, Cherokee XJ, ZJ enthus

Pro Comp Tires Pro Comp ES1000 Shock Absorber - JCWhitney

But they are cheap and will ride cheaply. The better ones are Old Man Emu and Bilstein. Also look at Rancho RS9000's with the 9 position switches. Though these are around 80+ each.
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Its a manual, with Dana 30 front, Dana 35 rear, and 4.0 I6
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Its a manual, with Dana 30 front, Dana 35 rear, and 4.0 I6
Ax 15 and most likely 3.73 gears

Edit: Checked his profile, ouch he calls his Jeep a car.
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Checked his profile, ouch he calls his Jeep a car.


I work with a guy that has an 04 rubi 4" lift 1.25 BL on 35's and he calls it a "truck" lol
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Ax 15 and most likely 3.73 gears

Edit: Checked his profile, ouch he calls his Jeep a car.
My bad its fixed. Its now "First Jeep!" haha
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"Some advise"

DON'T LIFT IT!

Up grade the parts as you need them; such as shocks.
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At 16 I would say just be stoked to have a jeep. Take it where it takes you & focus on keeping it running right and driving straight.

Shoot my first car was a '74 two-tone blue AMC Hornet wagon.

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Old 03-10-2012, 03:10 AM   #17
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I agree with 20ga & turnstyle.
If you dont NEED to lift it, dont lift it.
The higher you lift, the more you'll spend on lift, tires, and GAS.
Yep, your mileage will suffer too.
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:18 AM   #18
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Leave it stock. From what I read it knows more about offroad (and in a 16yo's case onroad) than you do. Don't move the center of gravity up until you catch up with it.
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I say only lift it if you're going to use it off road. At 17 I got my first vehicle, my jeep, and I'm 17 now and really can't speak because mine is lifted...but I get horrible gas milage, am fighting a death wobble, and have no cash to fix the important pieces of my jeep like my steering stabilizer, turn sig. 02 sensor, window! Yes I have no window...and IMO my jeep would look a lot better with some KC lights and new fenders! Wish I had invested in lights and body beauty instead of the lift first. Love what I have, but I'm paying for it right now. And I'm a full time student in college...this is my daily driver and all of my income goes to gas at the moment. 3.69 a gallon is not precious.
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Do a 1.25" savvy body lift, but no higher. This will make room for future mods like a tummy tuck and skids. It will only cost you a couple hundred bucks and can be done with hand tools in your drive way in an afternoon.
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Another opinion (that's the thng about Forums lots off opinions).

A lot of what has been said makes sense. Cheap lift, no lift, drive it when it breaks, than start lifting etc.

Your Jeep is very good out of the box. A more aggressive tire will always help, but you will pay for it on the road noise and gas. and I mean the same size as stock..just different tread pattern.

IF you find you truly NEED the 33's, than I would suggest a full HIGH QUALITY suspension lift. OME or someone along those lines. You will gain 2-3 which will "allow" 33's with the correct rims/ BS. But to truly WHEEL it also add a 1"- 1.25" BL.

Yes your gas mileage will suffer after these mods, but if you "know your Jeep" from having driven it BEFORE all the Mods, you will probably be able to "out wheel" a lot of other people.

Your Dana 35 (probably) won't last long with 33's. SO there is an added cost as well. It may be fine but it wasn't really designed for that big of a tire and wheel.

One thing to keep in mind do it right the first time and will probably cost less and be more satisfying in the long run.

If I was going to MOD it at all, if I were you I would purchase a winch. To help you get out of trouble if needed.

Just my .02 good luck!!!

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