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Old 07-04-2007, 07:38 PM   #1
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New jeep owner!

I just bought a new 06' TJ and I'm still learning about them. I have wanted a jeep for a long time and now that I have it it's time for the mods. I'm interested in lifting it, probably 4in w/ 33" mud terrains. Any suggestions? On anything, not just the lift.

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Old 07-04-2007, 07:45 PM   #2
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my suggestion would be to research a lot before you buy, and only buy once, save up and buy the lift, dont owrk up to it.

as for lifts personally i would do this.....
flat/tube fenders something like this (not painted weird blue though, keep it black!; http://www.metalfusionfab.com/tj_tube_fenders.htm

3" rustys lift ; http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchan...ode=sus_tj_kit

then you dont get into BL or SYE/ driveshaft things, and you get the cool look of the flat/tube fenders

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that's a cool site, thanks. But I can't find flat fenders... as far as research, I've been doing a lot but I've been unable to fine actual testimony of the parts, only what the manufacturer says about there product. The two names I hear people talk about are Rockkrawler and skyjacker.
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:54 PM   #4
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flat fenders are the same thing as tube fenders, they are fenders that are made out of tube that are flat, most people just call them tube fenders though
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:55 PM   #5
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you should get plenty of testimony here as to what is the best

most people say OME is the best you can get
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Old 07-04-2007, 07:55 PM   #6
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ok, now I feel dumb. lol i see them. Those are pretty cool and I've seen them on a jeep running around here. They look like rock crawler parts though, not sure if I want a serious aggressive look or a slightly mean look. Black is definitly the way to go though. My TJ is red w/ black soft top.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:03 PM   #7
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OEM is good, but I've been modifying and building suspensions for a little while. Idk about off road however. I took it out already and I was VERY impressed with what that stock jeep could do, but in the soft sand all I do is sink and get real bad tire hop. I know that the streets tires I have aren't going to do too much for me off road however. I'm not planning on hardcore rock crawling but I like to camp, fish, shoot, etc. so I want a vehicle that will get me anywhere. But off roading, I have found, is really fun.
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:04 PM   #8
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well it will cost about the same as a 4" lift and a SYE/CV kit

and will look wayyy cooler!!

but it is all what you want, build it for yourself, do whatever you want, just take whatever we say here as suggestions, but in the end its ur jeep and ur hard earned $$
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:06 PM   #9
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the tires are important on sand

and you will find a stock jeep will get you just about everywhere you need or want to go, but if you want ot wheel it and go off roading for the challenge then you will start to need to modify it
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:07 PM   #10
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btw it old man emu, not sure if we were tlaking about the same thing, was it a mistype for OEM??

not to be picky, just want to be sure you understood
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I didn't know I typed "emu" I was talking about OEM though. lol no worries. I appreciate the advice. and what are these? "SYE/CV"
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it replaces the driveshaft joint into the T case and the driveshaft so you dont get vibes froma lift kit

if you have less then 4" of lift you are usually fine without the new kind of driveshaft and connection

heres the site for the OME, it is about double the rustys but most say the ride is worth it, idn though since i've never ridden in either one;
http://www.dpgoffroad.com/TJ_LJ_OME_Kits.htm (the deluxe one)
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:23 PM   #13
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OME = Old Man Emu. It's a suspension division of ARB.

OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer.

Both are easily confused on forums.
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im suprised you didnt put in your vote for tube fenders scout or even a picture!!
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:25 PM   #15
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Well I thought I'd leave at least one thread alone.
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OH... OME... lol That's the brand name. Like I said I'm new here, but I learn quick. Those look like nice kits. From what I have come across as of yet a YE is not needed until you get past 4" lift. I have looked at the skyjacker kit and the local shop will install it for $1516 total. the other shop I went to tried getting me to buy a rockkrawler long arm kit. a little too extreme for me, but a nice kit. I'm not dead set on 4" but I DO want that lifted aggressive look. And I wanna climb some sandy slopes. I'll send pics when I go back out there.
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Simple Scout I appreciate the clarification, I was beginning to feel dumb again. lol. I figure this all out soon enough... I hope
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No problem and glad I could help. You've found the right forum and feel free to ask any questions you have. We have a lot of knowledgable and friendly members here that are always happy to help.

Here a thread you should check out when you get time. It wanders a bit but it has a lot of good pics with descriptions.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/tj-chat...pecs-4263.html
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well personally i would use the money you will save form the shop install ing the lift, and get some nice tools that you will use for the rest of your life, and save you lots of money down the road, and learn more about your own jeep

this site will help you out a lot (click on the current specs and it will show a write up of how to do it, and explore it to find out what else can be done, lots and lots of great write-ups)
http://www.4x4xplor.com/tj.html
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:43 PM   #21
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I just wasn't sure if that was something I could do myself. I'm very nimble around a shop and I have almost any tool I could need. I have even designed and fabricated parts for my bike. I just don't know what all is involved in a lift kit. What have you done to your jeep?
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Old 07-04-2007, 08:49 PM   #22
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well i have a 1955 CJ5, when i got it for $400 it didnt run, but now it runs and is about to get registered, and has extra things like oil gauges and things, anyways dont get me started i could og on forever, on something so old everyhting takes a TON of work and ingenuity, even something that should be simple!!!!!!

i dont actually have a TJ yet, but i know exactly what im geting when i do get one

here is approximetly what you will have to do

http://www.4x4xplor.com/RE-SuperFlex.html
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that looks like a nice kit, and complete. It has the lowers AND uppers. But what size tires can i run with it? i couldn't find that. I might not go with that exact kit but it's a great place to start. The install doesn't look like a simple one day job but I can tackle it. So my only cost will be the kit itself which is a LOT better. And it's fun!
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Old 07-04-2007, 09:15 PM   #24
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The 3.5 kit is saying I still need SYE/CV. They have a complete kit that is 4.5 but that is $1600. Can I get away with the 3.5 and not get the SYE/CV or is the $1600 worth it to avoid trouble down the road?
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Lift kits are fairly simple to install. If you can change shocks then you will be able to install most lift kits.

SYE/CV
Every Jeep is different. Some can get away with 4" of lift without one, and some need one with only 3" of lift. So be ready to add one if you need to, but you may be able to get away without it.

Lift Kits
Old Man Emu makes a great no-nonsense lift kit for those that don't want to get too crazy. However if you're looking for something a little bit more, then that RE kit would be a good choice.

Skyjacker kits are a little pricey for what you get in my opinion. And I actually run skyjacker coils and shocks(which I like). But I got them seperately on ebay and got them for a steal. I also added other parts like control arms and track bars from other manufacturers to make my lift complete.

To clear 33's on a TJ, you are going to want 3.5 inches of lift. You can get away with only 3", but 3.5 is perfect. Also keep in mind that if you go over 4", you will NEED extended brake lines.(among other things)
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Wow. Okay thats a good direction to head then. If the 3.5 will do it I'll take that approach, and hope I don't need the SYE. I'm not looking to go crazy, but if I'm spending money I'm going to get good parts.
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but if I'm spending money I'm going to get good parts.
Thats the way to think

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wait, a 4 inch lift needs extended brake lines?
anyways welcome aboard!
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wait, a 4 inch lift needs extended brake lines?
anyways welcome aboard!
If you wheel it at all, it should.
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So should I go RE3.5 or 4.5? 4.5 sounds more hardcore. Longer brakelines are an easy fix. I want 33"s w/o rubbing.

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