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Old 07-27-2013, 12:40 AM   #1
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New owner - how do I tell if it's lifted or?

Greetings!

Purchased my first Jeep this week - 2000 Jeep Wrangler with 71k miles on it. Mainly purchased for my oldest son soon to get his license - but meanwhile nothing says Dad can't drive it around also!

I doubt this vehicle will see much (if any) offroad activity - but my son and I still want it to look cool and be "beefy"! It will mainly be used for him to drive back and forth to high school, football, etc.. and transport siblings to sports also. So it needs to be safe as well.

My main questions (and I know really nothing about Jeeps):

1) The current tires are trashed (some bald, cracking, etc..) and are size LT285/75R/16. My intent is to replace the tires and rims. Should I stick with a 16 inch rim? Tire size?

2) How do I tell if the Jeep has a lift kit on it? Can you tell from my pictures of it?

3) I was told the 16 inch rims on it are from a later model Jeep - do they have any value in terms of resale? My son and I think black rims would look nice on the black jeep - so that is the plan - replacing 5 so the back spare matches also (and probaby rotated in).

4) I have read a bit in these forums about tires and rims so far - but given we won't be offroading - is there any advantage to steel .vs. alloy or? Gas mileage?

5) The Jeep spent the last 2 days in a garge with a mechanic - checking it all out. All is fine. I commented to him about maybe putting a header on it for more power/gas mileage and dual exhaust - at which point he told me that was no longer possible in CA if I wanted it to pass smog? Really? I certainly need it to sound better - it has stock exhaust currently. And it has the Inline 6 4.0L motor. Automatic transmission.

I am sure I will have more questions once I get things rolling - big thing first is getting some new tires and rims so it's driveable and safe!

Thanks, Jeff.
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Post pictures of the springs, control arms and body mounts. I don't know what size LT285/75R/16 would be in inches but from the looks of it, you may have a small budget boost or body lift. Changing rim size is really money wise, atleast for me it. I run 15's because the tries are a little cheaper and the rims cost less too.

I don't see why you couldn't put a header on it and passing smog. Just make sure you get a CA or 50 state legal part. I live in CA and have had headers and other mods to my other engines from previous owners and have passed with no problem. But with the jeep engines you won't really see much improvement with engine mods and most of the users on here will tell you not to waste your money on it.

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Greetings!

Purchased my first Jeep this week - 2000 Jeep Wrangler with 71k miles on it. Mainly purchased for my oldest son soon to get his license - but meanwhile nothing says Dad can't drive it around also!

I doubt this vehicle will see much (if any) offroad activity - but my son and I still want it to look cool and be "beefy"! It will mainly be used for him to drive back and forth to high school, football, etc.. and transport siblings to sports also. So it needs to be safe as well.

My main questions (and I know really nothing about Jeeps):

1) The current tires are trashed (some bald, cracking, etc..) and are size LT285/75R/16. My intent is to replace the tires and rims. Should I stick with a 16 inch rim? Tire size?

2) How do I tell if the Jeep has a lift kit on it? Can you tell from my pictures of it?

3) I was told the 16 inch rims on it are from a later model Jeep - do they have any value in terms of resale? My son and I think black rims would look nice on the black jeep - so that is the plan - replacing 5 so the back spare matches also (and probaby rotated in).

4) I have read a bit in these forums about tires and rims so far - but given we won't be offroading - is there any advantage to steel .vs. alloy or? Gas mileage?

5) The Jeep spent the last 2 days in a garge with a mechanic - checking it all out. All is fine. I commented to him about maybe putting a header on it for more power/gas mileage and dual exhaust - at which point he told me that was no longer possible in CA if I wanted it to pass smog? Really? I certainly need it to sound better - it has stock exhaust currently. And it has the Inline 6 4.0L motor. Automatic transmission.

I am sure I will have more questions once I get things rolling - big thing first is getting some new tires and rims so it's driveable and safe!

Thanks, Jeff.
Nice lookin rig. With that tire size id say there is a 2" bb lift on it, which is fine. Personally I'd stick with 15's. overall is cheaper, and i think with 15's it gives you a beefier look. No advantage really per alloy or steel, really it would depend on the tire. Some are HEAVY( like mine) and some arent. Dont worry about replacing the exhaust manifold with a header unless the factory header is kaput. I replaced my factory muffler with a flowmaster 40 series( old school, loud) put a turn down before the rear axle. Gas mileage.... 16 at the most.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:58 AM   #4
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Yea that looks like it has a small ish lift on it maybe 2.5 inches, people will buy those rims those are take offs from a rubicon!
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looks like. 2" lift. and the tires are 33's. i changed from 15's to 16's cause theres more wheels to choose from, and Imo alloy is better.
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Nice lookin Jeep!
I actually run the exact same tire size/rim combo and IMO, those rubicon rims are the best looking wheels that chrysler put on a stock jeep ever. They are not stock for your vehicle, it probably came with "canyon" style wheels (image search them, theyre pretty ugly... atleast I think) As posted above, the tires are basically 33's.. I think the exact measurement is 32.8 inches or something like that. With mine I'm running a 2"BB lift with one inch of body lift and it looks very similar.

Having the 4.0L engine gives you some options on upgrading your exhaust without it sounding like a fart can. I don't know what the PO did to mine, but she purrs like a kitten. Maybe do some reading on here and some youtube searches on what different exhaust parts give you certain sounds.

As far as mpg goes, maybe a regear is in your future. If you have a dana 44 rear axle, you probably have 3.73 gears. If you have the 35 in the rear, im not sure what came on those... maybe someone else can help me out. An easy way to distinguish between the two is if the fill plug on the rear diff is metal, it's a 44 and the gear ratio will be stamped in there as well. It wont matter much what axles you have if you don't plan on doing any offroading, the 35 is infamous for snapping axle shafts when wheeled with 33+"tires.

I get about 260ish miles on a full 19 gallon tank before I have to refill, just part of owning a Jeep. Plus there are plenty of mpg threads on here to keep you entertained for a looong time.
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Old 07-27-2013, 02:53 AM   #7
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It looks stock height to me. If its not the rubicon you may have dana 30 and 35 axles so your tire size may be limited to 33. You may have to use a spacer lift to clear. It may dog down because I think you are running 3.73 gears on it. Headers from summit are California legal but must have single exhaust you can change other stuff under there but must have o2 sensors in the right place.
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I went to 16" rims when I got mine and have regretted it ever since. Tire choices are better with 15" and tire prices are much lower with 15's. The size you have on there now equates to about 11" x 33" (11.2x32.8), so unless you have at least a 2" bb, you're going to be rubbing someplace with any flex at all. Look at the top of the front springs and see if there is a spacer.

Another thing to be careful of if buying new wheels is the backspacing. If you plan on 8" wide rims and 11 or 12" wide tires get backspacing about 3.75-4.25".

"I doubt this vehicle will see much (if any) offroad activity"

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Greetings!

I doubt this vehicle will see much (if any) offroad activity
It will mainly be used for him to drive back and forth to high school, football, etc.. and transport siblings to sports also. So it needs to be safe as well.

This made me laugh...
It will definitely see offroad and will definitely require some maintenance after him and his friends break something.
As for the safe part...at least it has a roll cage

Moving onto the questions, though.

Looks like it has a 2" budget boost on there...

I prefer a 15" rim because tire choices are better and the tires are cheaper.

There is "some" value in the rubicon wheels but not a ton...

You've got more choices of alloy rims vs steel...alloys look a lot better and are a lot lighter as well.

Most vehicles in california cant modify exhausts without failing...strictist state hands down.
You could put a magnaflow muffler on it but thats about it.

As for gas mileage...you'll get terrible all the time...no matter what. Best you'll get, especially with automatic, is going to be around 16-17
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Thanks for all the great replies so far, very helpful.

I am going to get the Jeep out and see if I can get some pictures of the suspension to determine lift or not. The tires on it currently, at least during normal street/highway driving, turning, don't rub on anything.

Reading up on the forums some (so much reading/info, so little time!) and I like what most of you are saying about the Toyo AT II tires. Seems like they would fit my application in terms of a great look but good highway manners.

In looking at rims - I noticed a TIS 525B and what someone called a Dropstar 645 in the picture - although I can't seem to tell those rims apart. Both looked great on a black vehicle with the AT II tires. Will try and post a picture here - just found it on the internet. Any good/bad/watch-out comments appreciated!

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Thanks for all the great replies so far, very helpful.

I am going to get the Jeep out and see if I can get some pictures of the suspension to determine lift or not. The tires on it currently, at least during normal street/highway driving, turning, don't rub on anything.

Reading up on the forums some (so much reading/info, so little time!) and I like what most of you are saying about the Toyo AT II tires. Seems like they would fit my application in terms of a great look but good highway manners.

In looking at rims - I noticed a TIS 525B and what someone called a Dropstar 645 in the picture - although I can't seem to tell those rims apart. Both looked great on a black vehicle with the AT II tires. Will try and post a picture here - just found it on the internet. Any good/bad/watch-out comments appreciated!

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I ran Toyo AT tires up until recently (even ran the Rubicon with them last year) (some pics under avatar) They are great tires (although heavy) and wear like iron. Virtually no street noise. I think for what you'll be using it for (very little offroad ) they'll be a good fit.
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Ok I attempted a few suspension pictures - these are at ground level in my shop so hopefully you can tell something. To my untrained eye it appears there is some kind of lift/spacer at the top of the spring. Is that 1 1/2 inch, 2 inch? And just called a body lift?

2 pictures of the front - I tried 1 in the rear, although very limited space for my camera. I assume if the front is lifted the rear must be also since it rides/sits even?

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That spacer is called a budget boost or bb. And however tall it is is how tall your "lift" is. Everything else looks stock except for the OME shocks, but hard to tell without a straight on picture.
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You have a 2.5" OME shock (Old Man Emu, a quality Australian brand) and that is a fine choice for ride quality with stock springs and a 2" spacer, or with 2" OME lift springs. Most likely, you also have a 1" body lift - look for a 1" gap between frame and tub inside the rear wheel arch, it's easy to see.

I have had a 2.5" OME suspension lift and a 1.25" body lift on my Rubicon since 2005. I run LT305/70R16 tires on those same rims. My tires like yours are 33" diameter, yours are about 3/4" narrower than mine. Unlike you, I offroad a lot - so I run Goodyear MT/R tires, a premium offroad tire.

Alloy rims are stronger and lighter than steel rims, they improve safety and handling. The stuff about 15" tires being cheaper is false economy, let me explain why, using the Goodyear MT/R.

A 33" tire for a 15" rim is size 33X12.5R15LT, which costs $207 at Tire Rack, the 16" version is a size LT285/75R16, which costs $240 at the same store (online prices, you will also pay shipping/mounting/etc.).

Yes there is $33 per tire difference. But a quality alloy wheel as good as the Rubicon "Moab" alloys you have will cost you $180 to $250 apiece. These quality MT/R tires last in excess of 50,000 miles, so your break even point is 6 or 7 sets of tires, and 300,000 to 350,000 miles. Doubtfull you will drive it that far or ever break even.

Allow me to suggest an alternative multi-step process when you are ready to buy tires. It will be cheaper and keep those quality rims:

1) Jack up the Jeep, remove all five wheels, and have the tire dealer remove the tires. (He will want a deposit from you anyway, so he will make a deal.)

2) Take the rims to a local metal finisher and have them "Bead-Blasted" and then "Powder-coated" in Black. Expect to pay $50-$75 per wheel. Powder coat is a high quality baked-on finish.

3) Have the tire dealer install and balance the tires.

4) Mount the tires and drive to the tire dealer and have him check/tweek the alignment.

In case you are wondering what a stock Jeep "Moab" rim looks like in black:



Things to avoid:

1) Buying cheap steel wheels. They bend, they are hard to keep in balance, and they rust.

2) Buying cheap tires. The Goodyear MT/Rs are excellant off-road tires, and look very rugged. But they will admittedly make tire noise. A quality, long-lasting, quiet, all-terrain tire is the Goodyear Wrangler SR-A, which costs $199 at Tire Rack in the LT285/75R16 size. (I run the SR-A's on the wife's WJ, they last 70,000 miles.)

I would go for the MT/R's myself. You might change your mind about off-roading....

I live in San Jose. If you are anywhere in the SF Bay area, I would be glad to show you some local trails.
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I'd check Craigslist and this forum for tires first. I see so many tires and wheels for sale , some with less than 1000 miles for $500-700. Most are 16" or 17" unless you're looking for oversized tires. Great looking Jeep. I'm looking for something like that, but all I'm finding are wornout rusty 200k Jeeps for 5-10k. I don't know if they ever sell for these prices, but I don't think most are worth half that.
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Too bad you don't like the wheels...I just bought a set of new reproduction ones for my new Jeep. I put 265/75/16 (31.7") Wrangler Duratracs on mine with a new 3" Zone lift.

I highly recommend the Goodyear Duratracs, as will many other forum members. This will be the second set I've had...great tires.
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Alloy rims are stronger and lighter than steel rims, they improve safety and handling. The stuff about 15" tires being cheaper is false economy, let me explain why, using the Goodyear MT/R.

A 33" tire for a 15" rim is size 33X12.5R15LT, which costs $207 at Tire Rack, the 16" version is a size LT285/75R16, which costs $240 at the same store (online prices, you will also pay shipping/mounting/etc.).
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Going to have to disagree with you amigo. You are comparing apples and oranges. A closer tire size to a 33 x 12.5 is a 305/70R16 (which is 12x32.8). A 285 is nearly 1 1/2" narrower. 305's are $260 at Tire Rack, that is over a $200 difference for a set of 4 or $250/5
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I'd check Craigslist and this forum for tires first. I see so many tires and wheels for sale , some with less than 1000 miles for $500-700. Most are 16" or 17" unless you're looking for oversized tires. Great looking Jeep. I'm looking for something like that, but all I'm finding are wornout rusty 200k Jeeps for 5-10k. I don't know if they ever sell for these prices, but I don't think most are worth half that.
I use Craigslist a lot and in fact purchased this Jeep from it. I would daily do searches of all my area cities with "Jeep" and "Owner only" sales. I tried to stay within about 2-3 hours of my home. We looked at a few that were either in much worse shape than the pictures indicated (oh I took those pictures 3 years ago!) or else as you say the mileage was already pushing 200k. We were in no rush as my son still has 5 months before he even gets his permit - so be patient and hang in there. I picked up this Jeep with the 71k miles for $9k even - and worried the mechanic would find a cracked block or something. Now that it checked out with flying colors - other than needing tires - I feel pretty good about our purchase.

As for the stock rims on the Jeep - it's not that I don't like them, it's just that I seem to like the black rim look better, particularly on a black vehicle. Plus my son gravitated to that look as well - maybe it's genetic? I was just glad he didn't want a yellow Yugo or something!

The picture below swayed us a fair amount - granted it's not a pure apples to apples comparison picture - tire change also, looks like maybe a lift as well, but to me that is like a night .vs. day picture, big change.

I will search Craigslist a bit and check around. My budget is not that tight and I think we would be happier getting what we want (within reason) than settling for something to save a few hundred $.

Thanks again, I am appreciating all the constructive comments.
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Just in case anyone is wondering how to determine the metric tire sizes. I think this is correct so please let me know if I'm off on this.

305/70/R16.
They are in millimeters (except the last number). Its a aspect ratio.
The first number 305 is the tire width in millimeters. The second number 70 is 70% of 305 which is 213.5 millimeters. So from where the tire contacts the rim (the bead) to where it contacts the pavement is 213.5 millimeters. So you can take 213.5 x 25.4 to get 8.4" . So 8.4 + 8.4 + 16 =32.8" So a 305/70R16 is basically a 33" tall by 12" wide tire.

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You have a 2.5" OME shock (Old Man Emu, a quality Australian brand) and that is a fine choice for ride quality with stock springs and a 2" spacer, or with 2" OME lift springs. Most likely, you also have a 1" body lift - look for a 1" gap between frame and tub inside the rear wheel arch, it's easy to see.

I have had a 2.5" OME suspension lift and a 1.25" body lift on my Rubicon since 2005. I run LT305/70R16 tires on those same rims. My tires like yours are 33" diameter, yours are about 3/4" narrower than mine. Unlike you, I offroad a lot - so I run Goodyear MT/R tires, a premium offroad tire.

Alloy rims are stronger and lighter than steel rims, they improve safety and handling. The stuff about 15" tires being cheaper is false economy, let me explain why, using the Goodyear MT/R.

A 33" tire for a 15" rim is size 33X12.5R15LT, which costs $207 at Tire Rack, the 16" version is a size LT285/75R16, which costs $240 at the same store (online prices, you will also pay shipping/mounting/etc.).

Yes there is $33 per tire difference. But a quality alloy wheel as good as the Rubicon "Moab" alloys you have will cost you $180 to $250 apiece. These quality MT/R tires last in excess of 50,000 miles, so your break even point is 6 or 7 sets of tires, and 300,000 to 350,000 miles. Doubtfull you will drive it that far or ever break even.

Allow me to suggest an alternative multi-step process when you are ready to buy tires. It will be cheaper and keep those quality rims:

1) Jack up the Jeep, remove all five wheels, and have the tire dealer remove the tires. (He will want a deposit from you anyway, so he will make a deal.)

2) Take the rims to a local metal finisher and have them "Bead-Blasted" and then "Powder-coated" in Black. Expect to pay $50-$75 per wheel. Powder coat is a high quality baked-on finish.

3) Have the tire dealer install and balance the tires.

4) Mount the tires and drive to the tire dealer and have him check/tweek the alignment.

In case you are wondering what a stock Jeep "Moab" rim looks like in black:



Things to avoid:

1) Buying cheap steel wheels. They bend, they are hard to keep in balance, and they rust.

2) Buying cheap tires. The Goodyear MT/Rs are excellant off-road tires, and look very rugged. But they will admittedly make tire noise. A quality, long-lasting, quiet, all-terrain tire is the Goodyear Wrangler SR-A, which costs $199 at Tire Rack in the LT285/75R16 size. (I run the SR-A's on the wife's WJ, they last 70,000 miles.)

I would go for the MT/R's myself. You might change your mind about off-roading....

I live in San Jose. If you are anywhere in the SF Bay area, I would be glad to show you some local trails.

I like this idea the best. Anybody can buy rims but like to be different. I have H2 rims on my 03 2500 Ram CTD

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