New Rubi Owner with Lift Questions. - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 12-31-2010, 12:03 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
04-Rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 167
New Rubi Owner with Lift Questions.

Hello all! I just recently purchased a 2004 Rubicon. As of right now it's stock (And the PO even put smaller tires on it ). I'm wanting to put a 2" suspension lift and a 1" or 1.25" body lift and Preferably some 33/10.50's. Just had a few questions. My budget is around $1500 for everything.

1. What brand of lifts do you guys recommend?
2. Would I be able to install the suspension and body lifts with just me and a few buddies?
3. With the amount of lift I'm wanting, could I fit 33's and not rub under any conditions?

also, pics:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0079.jpg
Views:	102
Size:	228.3 KB
ID:	33497   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0078.jpg
Views:	104
Size:	227.7 KB
ID:	33498  


04-Rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 12:24 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
MikeMTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: If only I knew....
Posts: 2,113
Send a message via AIM to MikeMTJ
I don't know to much about lifting TJs, but I do know that the only 33x10.5 tire you're gonna find is the BF Goodrich KM2.

MikeMTJ is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 12:25 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
04-Rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeMYJ View Post
I don't know to much about lifting TJs, but I do know that the only 33x10.5 tire you're gonna find is the BF Goodrich KM2.
Well, i would consider 12.50's if I wouldn't need new rims. Would I be able to fit them on the stock rims?
04-Rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 12:39 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
NHrubicon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 844
Images: 1
Instead of messing around with the body lift, which combined with the lift can screw up your shifter linkage...just go with a 4" lift. Several good brands to buy from, go through Quadratec, 4x4, or any of the well known suppliers and haggle until you get free shipping. We put a 4" on my 03 Rubicon, only thing that didn't go right was the dropped pitman arm that came with the setup-steering was all over the place, tie rod was slamming on the diff skid cover...other rubicon owners told me to throw out the dropped pitman and go back to the stock one...and it fixed the problem. I also had a Currie Tie rod setup to begin with...but that wouldn't have affected it to have a stock one. Don't know why they include the drop arm when it's useless. As for tires...there are MANY 33" x 10.5's, just check the pages of tires in the catalogs. I'm running 33" x 12.5"x 15" Cepek Crushers on 15" x 8" steel rims...don't bother with your stock rims if they are aluminum...they won't hold up on the trails. There is also a big difference in weight of the rims-steel are lighter because the aluminum has to be thicker and heavier to get the same strength!
Get some good cheap steel spokers with 3.75" backspace and you'll be fine-to get by state inspection laws on fenders I already had Xenon 6" flares on stock fenders and I'm covered.
NHrubicon is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 12:43 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
TjTheo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Bloomingburg, NY
Posts: 908
you need at least a 3 inch lift to fit 33's 10.5s will work on stock rims.
__________________
If you dont get stuck, you're not trying hard enough.

98 tj 4.0 5 speed aka "rosie"
TjTheo is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 12:52 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
04-Rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 167
Would myself and one or 2 friends be able to install a suspension and/or body lift?
04-Rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 01:29 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
InfernoGirl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Newburgh IN
Posts: 11,419
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHrubicon View Post
Instead of messing around with the body lift, which combined with the lift can screw up your shifter linkage...just go with a 4" lift. Several good brands to buy from, go through Quadratec, 4x4, or any of the well known suppliers and haggle until you get free shipping. We put a 4" on my 03 Rubicon, only thing that didn't go right was the dropped pitman arm that came with the setup-steering was all over the place, tie rod was slamming on the diff skid cover...other rubicon owners told me to throw out the dropped pitman and go back to the stock one...and it fixed the problem. I also had a Currie Tie rod setup to begin with...but that wouldn't have affected it to have a stock one. Don't know why they include the drop arm when it's useless. As for tires...there are MANY 33" x 10.5's, just check the pages of tires in the catalogs. I'm running 33" x 12.5"x 15" Cepek Crushers on 15" x 8" steel rims...don't bother with your stock rims if they are aluminum...they won't hold up on the trails. There is also a big difference in weight of the rims-steel are lighter because the aluminum has to be thicker and heavier to get the same strength!
Get some good cheap steel spokers with 3.75" backspace and you'll be fine-to get by state inspection laws on fenders I already had Xenon 6" flares on stock fenders and I'm covered.
Um, I think you are mistaken.... Alloys are quite a bit lighter than steel, and stronger. And while I don't spend any time looking at tires in catalogs, I have found very few 33x10.5's available online... 4.5" bs maximum to fit a 12.5" tire on a TJ, but less is fine....

OP, you and a buddy can install both a suspension lift and a body lift with no problems. Start soaking bolts with PB Blaster now, and do it regularly till you're ready to lift it.... thank me later...
__________________

Dirty Mudder column covers|

'01 Wrangler Sport, Sienna Pearl Mine
'07 Rubicon 2D, Flame Red His
'11 Wrangler Sport 4D, Black Ours...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kate View Post
Not every girl, is a Jeep girl. We're a special breed.
InfernoGirl is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 01:37 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
Sekstrand3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Back in Cali for awhile :)
Posts: 488
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04-Rubi
Hello all! I just recently purchased a 2004 Rubicon. As of right now it's stock (And the PO even put smaller tires on it ). I'm wanting to put a 2" suspension lift and a 1" or 1.25" body lift and Preferably some 33/10.50's. Just had a few questions. My budget is around $1500 for everything.

1. What brand of lifts do you guys recommend?
2. Would I be able to install the suspension and body lifts with just me and a few buddies?
3. With the amount of lift I'm wanting, could I fit 33's and not rub under any conditions?

also, pics:
If you had 3 grand I'd say full traction suspension
__________________
Sheldon Ekstrand
2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon

"It's a Jeep thing... You wouldn't understand."
Sekstrand3 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 12-31-2010, 03:56 PM   #9
Jeeper
 
04-Rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Alabama
Posts: 167
After talking it over with the friends that will be helping me, I've decided on a 4" suspension lift and no body lift. Question, as far as brands go, how is Rough Country? They're cheap, i know, but it's what I'm looking for. Are they cheap because they're crap, or do they just have good deals?

Here's the lift I'm looking at:Jeep TJ Suspension Lift

Also, if I do go with the above lift, will I need anymore hardware?
04-Rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-01-2011, 03:51 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
04-silver rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 156
i heard the rough country lifts are pretty good
04-silver rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-01-2011, 05:59 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,473
Pay cheap, get cheap.

Compare that to Rubicon Express, not cheap, but good quality.
__________________
It's no wonder the country is falling apart - stupidity abounds!
rrich is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-01-2011, 08:34 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
Bigstonz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Swain,NY
Posts: 295
OME, 1.25 BL, 33 10.5s. The BL will make alot of things down the road easier. I find the Rubicon gearing fine with 33s
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	051.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	224.1 KB
ID:	33583  
__________________
____________________________________________
06 Rubicon, OME, BL, MML 33s, Superwinch, Rokmen, Currie, Savvy stuff, etc
Bigstonz is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-02-2011, 12:22 AM   #13
Jeeper
 
04-silver rubi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 156
that looks nicee
__________________
liquor then beer your in the clear
liquor then Demerol..... we have some plots in your price range
04-silver rubi is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-02-2011, 02:00 AM   #14
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
Mortalis5509's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Winder, GA
Posts: 1,728
Send a message via AIM to Mortalis5509
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04-Rubi View Post
After talking it over with the friends that will be helping me, I've decided on a 4" suspension lift and no body lift. Question, as far as brands go, how is Rough Country? They're cheap, i know, but it's what I'm looking for. Are they cheap because they're crap, or do they just have good deals?

Here's the lift I'm looking at:Jeep TJ Suspension Lift

Also, if I do go with the above lift, will I need anymore hardware?
I run the RC 3.25 on my Rubicon with 285/75/16 (33*11.5, i think) with no problems. I would also order a steering stabilizer and if you choose quick disconnects. I got all of that including shipping for either 425 or 450. I ordered mine in October so don't remember. If you do decide to order RC, order it from them and mention "Jeep Forum" for 10% off the entire order.

The 4" lift might require a rear drive shaft and upper adjustable control arms. That will quickly blow your budget with tires. Don't quote me on that drive shaft with a 4in lift but at 3.25 your good. This Jeep TJ Suspension Lift 3.75 would not require a rear drive shaft because it includes a 1.25in body lift to achieve the height.

Cooper STT is a great tire for your to look at in a 285/75/16. They are siped mud terrain tire that perform well off road and on road. They look identical to Toyo Open Country and Mickey Thompson MTZ but cheaper. This is the best deal I could find on them Tire List | Treadepot.com (just went to the site and they are offering $25 off of a set of any tires)

You and some friends can do the lift easy. Here is an explanation to better understand why you would need a different rear drive shaft at certain lift heights: What is a CV shaft and why do I want one? - JeepForum.com

Here is my build thread. You can see what the 3.25 looks like with stock tires for the rubi and then with the 33's. Good luck to you and have fun. http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/intr...les-73317.html
__________________
Go DAWGS!!

YOU ONLY NEED TWO TOOLS IN LIFE - WD-40 AND DUCT TAPE. IF IT DOESN'T MOVE AND SHOULD, USE THE WD-40. IF IT SHOULDN'T MOVE AND DOES, USE THE DUCT TAPE.

IF YOU CAN'T FIX IT WITH A HAMMER, YOU'VE GOT AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM.
Mortalis5509 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2011, 10:04 PM   #15
Jeeper
 
computeruser's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 811
Consider 255-85-16 and a 3" lift and 1" body lift. That makes for a slick setup with the OEM Rubicon rims. AEV makes nice 3" coils.
computeruser is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 01-03-2011, 11:00 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
UnlimitedLJ04's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,238
Quote:
Originally Posted by 04-Rubi View Post
1. What brand of lifts do you guys recommend?
Old Man Emu (OME), AEV (American Expedition Vehicles), BDS, RCD.

Call these guys:
www.dpgoffroad.com
www.rokmen.com
www.northridge4x4.com

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04-Rubi View Post
2. Would I be able to install the suspension and body lifts with just me and a few buddies?
yuppers, not bad at all. pack a beer cooler and get to work, it'll be a long day.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 04-Rubi View Post
3. With the amount of lift I'm wanting, could I fit 33's and not rub under any conditions?
2.5" lift + 1" BL will fit 33s provided you do the following: add 1" bumpstop extensions in front, and 1.5" in the rear. Shock length may dictate longer bumpstops, depending what brand & length you get, but that is typical.

You'll also need wheels with 3.75-4.25" of backspacing. With the lift, your axles will be off-center. before buying an aftermarket adjustable track bar for use with 2.5" of lift, you should read this:
tj front adjustable track bars for 0-3.5", does yours hit or fit? - JeepForum.com

As for what I run...pictures and detailed specs here:
Unlimited04's LJ Build - JeepForum.com


UnlimitedLJ04 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
lift questions 93yjsplash YJ Tech Forum 6 07-26-2009 05:08 AM
2005 Lift questions Effisimo TJ Tech Forum 2 04-29-2009 09:47 PM
Lift and tire questions Warpman89 TJ General Discussion Forum 15 06-01-2008 08:20 PM
body lift questions Felsengleiskette YJ General Discussion Forum 4 04-20-2008 09:07 PM
Lift Install Questions Adventurous TJ General Discussion Forum 14 03-27-2007 05:54 AM



» Network Links
»Jeep Parts
» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:10 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC