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Old 09-01-2013, 10:27 PM   #1
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First of all I'm running a 2.5in SL lift (also a 1.25" BL but I don't think that matters) and my rough country shocks ride rough as hell, so I've looked a bit into it and it seems all the high end shock absorbers are for 3" lifts and up.. So if anyone knows more about this subject please coach me up!! And I have the budget to get the best of the best. I want my jeep riding like a cloud

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Rancho 9000xl....adjustable to fit your comfort needs plus September is shocktober so buy 4 for price of 3. What I'm upgrading to from RC N2.0 shocks.

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Yep rancho rs9000xl. I love mine and he's right buy 3 get 1 free
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Rancho 9000s are the best. You can adjust them as soft or as hard as you would like. If you get a standard shock you will get the type of ride the company thought was best, which you may or may not agree with. With Rancho 9000's you can make it ride how you would like. Try my4by.com as they have the best prices around and you can still do the rebate thing.
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The best of the best? What's the exact budget? Don't buy shocks based on suggested lift height. I assume you have RC springs, which is a good start to having well-performing shocks.
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The best of the best? What's the exact budget? Don't buy shocks based on suggested lift height.
I don't have an exact number because I do want the best ride I can get with the best off road performance, an estimate though is around 1000
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The best of the best? What's the exact budget? Don't buy shocks based on suggested lift height. I assume you have RC springs, which is a good start to having well-performing shocks.
In another thread I was talking with NJO about Metalcloak's 6pak and all 4 would cost about 800 so around there is what I'd like to spend
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Nice budget First thing you want to do is take off your current shocks and bumpstops. Do some measurements. Full droop, fully compressed springs or until connections/rubbing. Once you have those measurements, you should have an idea on shock length. I will always suggest Fox shocks due to their tuning, valving, and rebuild (meaning you buy parts, not new shocks) abilities. Despite Bilstein's and King's offering this also, I recommend fox due to Wayne's (Zukizzy on other jeep and offroad boards) tuning skills and experience with Fox shocks. He can definitely make your jeep ride 100% better.

Now, 6Paks I have no understanding of nor am i aware of all of their features. The 6paks are a very new design, and I've actually never even seen a review on them. If you choose 6paks, I'd stick with talking to NJO and I'd definitely call Metalcloak and inquire as much information as possible about them.
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In another thread I was talking with NJO about Metalcloak's 6pak and all 4 would cost about 800 so around there is what I'd like to spend
Just wondering. where are you going to get MC 6paks for 800? That's a good deal!
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Just wondering. where are you going to get MC 6paks for 800? That's a good deal!
Just the shocks themselves are $400 front and $400 back http://www.metalcloak.com/Metalcloak...sed-p/1201.htm
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Now, 6Paks I have no understanding of nor am i aware of all of their features. The 6paks are a very new design, and I've actually never even seen a review on them. If you choose 6paks, I'd stick with talking to NJO and I'd definitely call Metalcloak and inquire as much information as possible about them.
Yeah same, he said he was going to put some on his tj some time soon, and yeah I would spend quite a bit of time on the phone with metal cloak haha
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Oh okay. I was under the impression 400 for each shock, it didn't specify lol
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What you may want to do, considering their very unconventional design, is to request to try them out. With MC's customer service and very confident staff, I believe you could try them, and if you did not like them, return them.
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Oh okay. I was under the impression 400 for each shock, it didn't specify lol
Hmm, now that I'm looking at it you may be right lol, another question for customer service hahah
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What you may want to do, considering their very unconventional design, is to request to try them out. With MC's customer service and very confident staff, I believe you could try them, and if you did not like them, return them.
Wouldn't hurt to ask I guess
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Just going off the other 6pak/spring combo prices and subtracting the price of the springs I would say 400 each but I could be wrong. Talk to Matson at MC. Great guy and helped me out a lot with my control arms order and track bars!!

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Old 09-02-2013, 12:58 AM   #17
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They do appear $400 a piece. The price isn't exactly too much. many piggyback shocks, which is what they are modeled after IMO, extend to $500 a piece.
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He can spend 1200+shipping for the 6paks or ~250(after shocktober deal) for the 9000xl...I'm a huge MC fan but he's going from RC shocks like me so I assure your the 9000xls will be a serious upgrade!

If you have the budget for 6paks I say go for it!
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In another thread I was talking with NJO about Metalcloak's 6pak and all 4 would cost about 800 so around there is what I'd like to spend
6pak shocks are 400 each.....so in reality we are talking $1600 for a set of 4.

6pak shocks are nice because they have dual reservoirs, are full rebuildable and you can custom valve them. THey also have the shortest compressed length for given travel(13" compressed length, 12" travel ='s 25" extended).

The downside is for the front to be bolt in you need bar pin eliminators on the bottom and and adaptor on the top.......that raises the compressed length to about 14.5"..............if your using an extra 1-2" of bumpstopping then its not an issue(and actually a potential benefit depending on your springs free length)

The rears require cutting off of the bottom axle mount and welding in new mounts off the LCA mounts. Once this is done the rears have an effective compressed length of about 14". Again if your using 1-2" of bumpstopping in the back then this isn't an issue........but how long are your rear springs free length? Most springs in the 2-3" range are about 13-15" free length, with coil bind around 4-5"..........so in reality you have about 10-11" of usable spring length in back.......again not a problem if you dial in your bumpstopping and shocks so that there is about a half inch play left on compressed and extended positions.

In reality I find to get best results, modding will need to be done on the front and rear upper shock mount locations(this means cutting and welding)to get everything perfect.....which means a full 11-12" travel in the front useable, and 10-11" of travel in the back useable..........depending on springs used.
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$1600* lol my math isn't too great at 1AM
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NJO, do you know the width of the shocks? Just curious. You should make a website, like Stu...
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6pak shocks are 400 each.....so in reality we are talking $1600 for a set of 4. .
I stand corrected... Hahah $250 vs $1600, from someone who has the same exact lift as I do, the ranchos aren't sounding half bad right now lol. If no modifying was needed to run the 6paks though I'd wait an extra month or 2 and get'em no question. But I don't, so sacrifices can be made, I can use the extra for adjustable control arms or something. Still though, I am very intrigued about what you do with the modifying to fit the 6pak. I will definitely have an eye pealed for a write up on here If I knew how to cut and weld well enough, would be without a doubt following in your footsteps lol, very jealous...
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I stand corrected... Hahah $250 vs $1600, from someone who has the same exact lift as I do, the ranchos aren't sounding half bad right now lol. If no modifying was needed to run the 6paks though I'd wait an extra month or 2 and get'em no question. But I don't, so sacrifices can be made, I can use the extra for adjustable control arms or something. Still though, I am very intrigued about what you do with the modifying to fit the 6pak. I will definitely have an eye pealed for a write up on here If I knew how to cut and weld well enough, would be without a doubt following in your footsteps lol, very jealous...
Bypass Rancho's.......look at a quality Aluminum bodied monotube like the Fox 2.0 shocks(with or without piggyback reservoir) or the Skyjacker M95 series shock(Rebadged BDS 9500 shock which is basically the steel bodied version of the Fox 2.0 shock). Those run $70-100 each and are much better shocks than the 9000 series Rancho "adjustable" shocks.

That's basically what I did.....Im running Fox's until the funds allow me to snag the 6pak's.
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Well I actually have the RC N2.0 4" SL but yea the 6 paks aren't for the every day jeeper IMHO. If you're going to upgrade shocks I would do the 9000xls and get something else with the $ left over. I'm getting the MC track bars and CAs with the 9000xls....only leaving my RC springs as of now.
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Bypass Rancho's.......look at a quality Aluminum bodied monotube like the Fox 2.0 shocks(with or without piggyback reservoir) or the Skyjacker M95 series shock(Rebadged BDS 9500 shock which is basically the steel bodied version of the Fox 2.0 shock). Those run $70-100 each and are much better shocks than the 9000 series Rancho "adjustable" shocks.

That's basically what I did.....Im running Fox's until the funds allow me to snag the 6pak's.
What's the advantage over the Rancho's? Being honest I would like to know before I purchase them...
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Bypass Rancho's.......look at a quality Aluminum bodied monotube like the Fox 2.0 shocks(with or without piggyback reservoir) or the Skyjacker M95 series shock(Rebadged BDS 9500 shock which is basically the steel bodied version of the Fox 2.0 shock). Those run $70-100 each and are much better shocks than the 9000 series Rancho "adjustable" shocks. That's basically what I did.....Im running Fox's until the funds allow me to snag the 6pak's.
I looked at fox first because I knew they were quality but they all say 3" lift and higher, I know need to measure my shocks that are on right now and then see what'll fit but if you had to guess, would they fit on a 2.5" lift? (I'm learning, hang with me )
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Fox makes shocks that could fit on a stock suspension. IIRC, the Ranchos are nothing but rebranded Monroe's. Foxes can be rebuilt, valved, tuned - ranchos cannot. They're extremely high quality, and you'd never need another shock.
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What's the advantage over the Rancho's? Being honest I would like to know before I purchase them...
Fox/BDS/Skyjacker use a large piston monotube with a heat dissipating aluminum body(ie: no fading) and have reasonably good travel/length ratio shocks.

Rancho shock body length's are terrible. THey are long and have really short travel given their compressed length. Want a 9 or a 10" travel Rancho shock? LOL! Go check out the chart and see just how long those compressed lengths are. Prepare for major bumpstopping if you want to significantly improve on stock shock travel length on your jeep.
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That's good to know! I've read a bunch of good reviews on the Ranchos being a good budget shock and having the adjustability in case the shocks don't come from the factory with the ride you desire...the adjustable Fox 2.0 are 220 each. If you do light-mid wheeling is the cost worth it? Its a daily driver and occasional weekend warrior and I am super unhappy with my lift. Trying to do it right but with a budget...

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