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Old 12-28-2008, 12:45 PM   #1
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Question New TJ owner with a few questions

Well I just picked up a 2001 anniversary Ed. Wrangler a few months ago and have been loving it so far. Now I have a few questions and do not have an issue stating that I am a complete Jeep Newb. Also I did try and search but I have a funny feeling that I wasnt using the right key words and wasnt able to come accross any answers.

First of all I was wondering if the 4x4 dash indicator lights are known to have issues? Over the past few weeks the light on the dash started to flicker when I had the 4x4 engaged and now it does not go on at all. Well I can occasionally get it to flicker if I wiggle the lever. 4x4 mode appears to still work fine when engaged and was very useful in the past snow storm we had but no light. I was also wondering if there should be another indicator light for the different modes? Even when the light was working I would get the same indicator light no matter which 4x4 mode I was in. I aways thought that there was a seperate indicator for Low mode.

Next I know it is impossible to diagnose over the web without hearring it but I seem to be getting alot of chatter from the tranny or transfer case. I can hear it while idling and engaging 1st or reverse I can hear a bit of a clunk. It is just the chatter that is worrying me. I thought it might be the throw out berring but it shifts and drives fine.

Lastly, I picked up a set of rugged ridge nerf bars and plan on installing them in the next week. The kit requires that you drill into your frame rails and comes with all the needed bolts ect. It could be that I am just a newb, but I have a hard time allowing myself to drill a bunch of holes into the rails. For this reason I was wondering if there is any downside to just welding them on. The way I see it is if I ever need to remove them I can just cut them off then grind down the flanges and welds. I just wanted to get a little feedback on this to see if I am way off in my train of thought.

Once again I appreciate any help/advice people have to offer and thanks for taking the time to reply.

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the chatter that you are hearing is probably coming from the u-joints on the drive shaft. it is a cheap and simple fix (only about $20 for a set of u-joints). i had the same situation, every time i put in drive or reverse it would clunk, i thought i destroyed the tranny or something. just get under the jeep and look at the drive shaft and u joints. you should be able to tell just by looking and wiggling the drive shaft.

as for the nerf bars, i don't really like them myself, but if i were going to put a set on i would weld them on instead of drilling into the frame.

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Old 12-28-2008, 12:56 PM   #4
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Old 12-28-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice on the u-joints! Any word on the dash light?

Here are a few pics.

When I first got her.


Having a little fun in the recent snow storm (pardon the brass ballz...one of my buddies bought them for me as a joke and they kinda stuck.)


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Old 12-28-2008, 02:30 PM   #6
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nice ride!

looks like nny lol
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Lastly, I picked up a set of rugged ridge nerf bars and plan on installing them in the next week.
Welcome to WF! - and a very nice Jeep ya got there! My .02 on the nerf bars would be take them back. If you plan to offroad it, you will eventually destroy them anyway. There are good rocker guards that double as steps and will actually protect your rockers from rocks, etc. without hanging so low. (Search rocker guards) Get a set that attach to the frame and tub for max strength - and no welding needed!

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Old 12-28-2008, 05:07 PM   #8
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Welcome to WF! - and a very nice Jeep ya got there! My .02 on the nerf bars would be take them back. If you plan to offroad it, you will eventually destroy them anyway. There are good rocker guards that double as steps and will actually protect your rockers from rocks, etc. without hanging so low. (Search rocker guards) Get a set that attach to the frame and tub for max strength - and no welding needed!

Enjoy your Jeep and always wave!


Thanks for the compliment and advice. The only reason that I went with the large tube nerf bars was because they came with the front bumper, rear bumper and hitch that I came accross on craigslist for a steal. I wasnt going to put them on since I dont have any plans for any serious offroading in the near future and being 6'2 dont have an issue getting into the jeep. However the girl I am dating is not as fortunate and pretty much needs to get a running start to get in. I would love to pick up a set as pictured below but unfortunatly can not justify spending around $300 right now for the set.



On a side note does anyone have any feedback on the 4x4 dash indicator issue that I am having from the 1st post?


Edit: I learned all about the whole wave thing the day I test drove the jeep with the previous owner. It was a gorgeous day out and the top was down. We passed 3-4 other wrangler owners that gave the wave and he was nice enough to explain it to me. However he said that we shouldnt wave to any jeeps with square headlights or newer unlimiteds which didnt make sense to me. I guess I am pretty liberal with tossing out a friendly wave to a fellow jeep owner.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:10 AM   #9
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4x4 light

Jp90Talon,

Im not sure on the 2001, but the 98 has a 4x4 sensor on the transfer case. I would check the wiring for shorts or damage, if not has to be the sensor. Hope it helps
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On your 4x4 light. jaun_p_m it sounds like you sensor.

And my .02 on justifing spending money on your jeep. Its a jeep you have to take it off road, thats all the justication needed
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Jp90Talon - nice jeep indeed!

sorry i can't offer any advice about the tech questions (complete newbie myself), but may i ask what dimensions those BF Goodrich's are? they look pretty big. you don't have a (slight) lift on her, right?
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:40 PM   #12
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On your 4x4 light. jaun_p_m it sounds like you sensor.

And my .02 on justifing spending money on your jeep. Its a jeep you have to take it off road, thats all the justication needed
Thanks for the heads up on the sensor. In the next few days Im going to try and head over to my buddies shop where it is warm n dry and there is a lift so I can check it out along with my U-joints!

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Jp90Talon - nice jeep indeed!

sorry i can't offer any advice about the tech questions (complete newbie myself), but may i ask what dimensions those BF Goodrich's are? they look pretty big. you don't have a (slight) lift on her, right?

No lift at all. The tires are 32x11.5x15's. They came with the Jeep when I bought it. I have been told that the only reason they fit without rubbing is due to the offset of the rims. I have been told (on here) that running tires this big without some form of lift is not reccomended esp if you plan on doing any bit of off roading. For now it is my winter "beater" and doesnt really see much other than streets so they work for me.
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First of all I was wondering if the 4x4 dash indicator lights are known to have issues? ...

Next I know it is impossible to diagnose over the web without hearring it but I seem to be getting alot of chatter from the tranny or transfer case. ...

Lastly, I picked up a set of rugged ridge nerf bars and plan on installing them in the next week. The kit requires that you drill into your frame rails and comes with all the needed bolts ect....
put it in 4 wd and hit the top of the dash.. does it flicker? if not it could be the sensor..

The chatter.. does it go away when you step on the clutch? Is the chatter in idle different than the chatter when accelerating out of first? Does it sound more like thumping on the body by the 2-4wd shifter? Some chatter while in neutral at idle is normal. When u step on the clutch it should go away.

You can drill the frame however you have to "sleeve" it. If not, simply what will happen is you will tighten it, eventually the frame will collapse a bit and ur steps will loosen, then you will tighten it some more, it will collapse some more.. and on and on..

obviously you dont need to go this crazy but this is what i have in mind.
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Edit: I learned all about the whole wave thing the day I test drove the jeep with the previous owner. It was a gorgeous day out and the top was down. We passed 3-4 other wrangler owners that gave the wave and he was nice enough to explain it to me. However he said that we shouldnt wave to any jeeps with square headlights or newer unlimiteds which didnt make sense to me. I guess I am pretty liberal with tossing out a friendly wave to a fellow jeep owner.
i don't have any input on the dash indicator,but i do on the wave. square vs. round (headlights that is) is a fun rivalry between jeepers. i find that a lot of the jk owner's don't wave but that is b/c a lot of them are newer to the jeep thing and don't know about it. i personally wave to any cj or wrangler, and even lifted cherokee's, grand cherokee's, and commander's. if they wave, great. if not that is ok too. i feel as though it is better to wave too much than not enough.
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not to hijack.. but what is it with the wave thing lol. i live on an army base, and theres hella wranglers here. i pass between 5 and 8 on the avg day (only driving 10 miles max)
and they all wave. it was weird at first, but i got used to it and i wave now.

it reminded me of when i rode a motorcycle in highschool. everyone on bikes wave too.

also my wife got on to me for waving at other intrepid owners when we pass them in her intrepid and im driving. i also wave at wranglers when im driving the intrepid. i didnt realize i was doing it lol.

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not to hijack.. but what is it with the wave thing lol. i live on an army base, and theres hella wranglers here. i pass between 5 and 8 on the avg day (only driving 10 miles max)
and they all wave. it was weird at first, but i got used to it and i wave now.

it reminded me of when i rode a motorcycle in highschool. everyone on bikes wave too.
same as bikes man appreciation for one another

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