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Old 11-07-2008, 07:45 PM   #1
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eBay Motors: WHEEL SPACERS 2 ADAPTERS FORD JEEP WRANGLER WHEELS 22 5 (item 370105880990 end time Nov-07-08 22:22:23 PST)

is this what you need in order to make stock wheels, or 31 inch wheels stick out the sides?

i've seen 31 inch tires that are x 10.5, but they stick out a lot further then they should and was wondering how to achieve this

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Old 11-07-2008, 08:11 PM   #2
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boo on the spacers. get the right wheels. wider wheels with the right offset will give you the look you want the right way.

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That's an expensive way to mess up your drive train.
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:03 AM   #4
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That's an expensive way to mess up your drive train.
Really? why is that different than less backspaced rims?
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Old 11-08-2008, 03:13 AM   #5
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IMO wheel spacers are the chinsey way to go, just buy some decent wheels with the appropriate offset, either way, it wont affect the drivetrain
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:46 AM   #6
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x 3 on the right wheels.
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:48 AM   #7
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spacers put excess pressure on the studs, the wheel is sticking out further on a mounting point further away from the axles, bearing the weight of the vehicle at a new point. i just don't like them, most don't. the ones you're looking at are at least the better style.
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I got em. Those exact ones matter of fact. So far, so good.
They are hubcentric and fit good. Put em on, torque to about 100lbs., drive 100 miles, check them, then retorque using threadlock (blue). I know its a PITA to check after 100 miles, but you gotta do it.
Its hard to beat that price and if feedback is any indication of quality, then look at his feedback and read some comments.
But if you wanted to spend a little more, you can find new wheels out there for a good price.
Honestly, new wheels would be the way the correct way to go.
I just did mine with spacers because I had already lifted and put my wheels onto my new 33's. And since Im a forgetful idiot, I forgot that the rear axle shifted over just enough with my 4" kit to cause the tire to rub on the spring perch. so instead of buying new wheels and remounting them, I decided on the spacers.
Like I said, so far, so good. Just remember to check them after 100 miles and periodically after.
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spacers put excess pressure on the studs, the wheel is sticking out further on a mounting point further away from the axles, bearing the weight of the vehicle at a new point. i just don't like them, most don't. the ones you're looking at are at least the better style.
same as less bsed rims The only difference is now you have 5 extra bolts to worry about.
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Old 11-08-2008, 01:20 PM   #10
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^can't really tell what you're saying, but its not the same. those spacers are held on by the original lug nuts, and then the wheel is bolted on farther out, farther from its original mounting surface, putting more stress on the original lug nuts.

let me try to make an analogy, this is the best i can come up with now, but it works. take a short shovel, lets say 3 ft long, and hold it in your arm and extend it out holding it out parralell with your arm fully extended, now do the same with a shovel with a longer handle. which one puts more stress on you, the one that sticks farther out.

honestly those spacers will probably be fine, and for most they work forever, but for some they don't and there is potential for probs. bottom line is, they are not the right way to do things.
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ok let me dig out the crayons again.


Left is a rim with 3.5" bs.. right is a rim w/ 4.5" BS and 1" spacer.

The load on the bearings and bolts will the the same as the mounting plate is still 3.5" away.
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whatever you say man, no one can get through to you. might wanna consider there are people with more experience in this world than you.
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i ran cheap ones from ebay for like a week...

i HATED EM

sold em and got the right rims
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whatever you say man, no one can get through to you. might wanna consider there are people with more experience in this world than you.
I accept there are people with more experience than me however i shouldn't accept that everything they say is right.

To me once you install the spacer, you can look at it as part of the rim.
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please explain why it would be any different? If you do, THEN i will believe you.

Oh and above when i said "the only difference is you have 5 more nuts to worry about".. i meant you have the 5 under that hold the spacer and then you have 5 more from the spacer that hold the rim.
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it is not part of the rim, it is weaker because it is not part of the rim. you're bolting a part to your lugs, and then your wheels to the part thats bolted to your lugs. thus losing strength. they have been known to work loose from vibration, and break studs. face it, and accept what everyone else here is saying.

i'll say it one more time, most of them are fine forever, people have had problems though, and they are not the preferred correct thing to do.
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it is not part of the rim, it is weaker because it is not part of the rim. you're bolting a part to your lugs, and then your wheels to the part thats bolted to your lugs. thus losing strength. they have been known to work loose from vibration, and break studs. face it, and accept what everyone else here is saying.

i'll say it one more time, most of them are fine forever, people have had problems though, and they are not the preferred correct thing to do.
Even though I have the spacers as stated earlier, I agree with you JP. I did plenty of research on spacers and the general consenses is that YES-they do put more stress on the lugs which could cause a catastrophic event. However, most of the catastrophies that ive read were in racing scenarios. I do not know of any cases of a DD or light off roader Jeep that has had problems. Although, Im sure there are some out there.
Once again to the OP, if you plan on going wiht spacers, you need to check on them peridically. Follow the steps that I stated earlier and you should be fine.
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spacers have been discussed on this forum for a long time. The usual problems are.. people torque them down.. since they are brand new and aluminum, they crunch up a bit since they "wear in", which makes them loose.. since the tire covers the inside nuts, people dont notice or check them and a week later, the tire takes another route home on it's own.

From memory i believe mr C was running spacers since he couldn't find that little of a bs rim Maybe he will chime in with his experiences since i am pretty sure he beats his junk like it owes him money.

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