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Old 08-22-2012, 08:56 PM   #1
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Newbie looking at used Jeep and need help...

I have wanted a Jeep for quite some time now and have decided to really start looking. I found one about 45 minutes from where I live that I am pretty interested in. But I thought this might be a great place to get some feedback and advice.

It is a 2004 Jeep Wrangler Sport. It has the 4.0 engine, 5 speed manual tranny, AC, CD, soft top, and 100k miles. It also has a 4" Lift, Dick Cepek DC 2 wheels, 35" Hercules tires, KC light bar, fender flares, and all of the Hood/fender protectors. The pics look great, but I have yet to see it in person. Bu from the pictures it appears to be in very good shape.

The owner has told me a zipper on the soft top needs to be replaced. He also said the transfer case linkage became disconnected from the pivot hole on the TC (seems like an easy fix). Finally, he said it MAY need a front u-joint (again seems like a reasonably easy fix).

He has listed for $8295 but has been very clear that he needs to sell this ASAP and the price is very negotiable. He apparently is having some financial problems to the point he can't even afford to have it on the road right now. So I know I am assuming some risk here. But I am wondering if it may be worth it for the right price?

Any help would be much appreciated. Feel free to email me directly if at all possible. And thanks in advance!

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Old 08-22-2012, 09:06 PM   #2
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2004 Jeep Wrangler

Here is the link to it in case anyone wants to take a look and give an opinion. Hoping to go down there tomorrow.

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Old 08-22-2012, 09:35 PM   #3
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just seriously watch out for rust, beware of fresh paint on the frame and such, if it's really clean, runs decent, and not rusty that's 95% of the battle, the rest can be fixed. it took me almost a year to find a 2004-06 tj that wasn't starting to rot out here in MA. I found one that had literally not a flake of rust on it, the po ran it through the car wash once a week and every time it snowed. I bought it the next day.
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The price sounds like a great starting point for a 2004. A couple of things. If the plastic bushings in the transfer case linkage keeps popping apart, chances are the shift linkage is either out of alignment (possibly due to the lift) or it may have a bad transmission mount. Neither one of these is a big deal, just make sure before putting your $'s down that it is a linkage problem and not a transfer case problem. The other thing I would check, is what differentials are under this and if it has been regeared with the 35 inch tires on it. Hopefully it would have Dana 44 difs, but if this was done on a budget, it possibly has original Dana 35, & 30. Not really made to turn 35 inchers. You also might want to find out what kind of lift. Looks like the rear lower control arms were not changed when the lift went it. (see side view - the rear axle is not centered in the wheel wells) again, not a huge deal in and of itself.

It kind of all depends on what you're going to use it for, how much you're willing to do, how much you want to spend in parts, and what kind of a deal you can get....nice looking Jeep though.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:10 PM   #5
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It's also leaking fluids so check that out when you look at the jeep. If it's oil it's probably the rear main and/or back of the valve cover gasket. Those are common leaks so don't be quick to pass up on the jeep over that...they're easy fixes and there's a write-up for the rear main.

I wouldn't buy it until the linkage is replaced but that's me. You don't want to buy a transfer case when you just paid 8-9k for the jeep do ya? He put a little bit of money into the jeep makes you wonder why he didn't fix the little stuff...could be hiding something.
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I just heard back from the seller. He said it is not leaking any fluids...although thr cardboard underneath is quite suspiscious!

He said it is definitely just the linkage and you can shift it between 2wd and 4wd by hand very easily. But this could still be more in my opinion.

It does still have the Dana 35, and not the 44. Anyone have an idea of what it would cost to have it switched out to the 44?

He claims to have very minor surafce rust spots on the frame and bottom of tailgate and that is it. I will take a real close look at the whole thing. It seems as though rust can be one of the bigger issues.
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unless you have looked at lots of wranglers you cannot be sure that this is the one you want.....be patient and look at lots of them before you select. rust is a no-no, there is no reason to accept any substantial rust on a wrangler as there are many rust-free ones out there for sale. it is always cheaper to start with a solid, clean, vehicle with zero mechanical issues. i'd keep looking.
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Thank you all for all of your help. I have decided to pass on that one and have been actively looking at others. I am about to go see this one...

1998 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4 x4

Maybe you guys could take a look and let me know what you think. Here is what I know from a quick call with the current owner...
-140k miles
-frame had some rust but was professionally repaired with metal and welding (is this acceptable or a big red flag?)
-body has some small rust patches around fenders and corners (seems typical at 140k miles when 14 years old)

I will update with more info later. But any suggestions and/or critiques are always welcome!
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It does still have the Dana 35, and not the 44.
A 4.0 sport with a 35? I'm not feeling it.
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Thank you all for all of your help. I have decided to pass on that one and have been actively looking at others. I am about to go see this one...

1998 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4 x4

Maybe you guys could take a look and let me know what you think. Here is what I know from a quick call with the current owner...
-140k miles
-frame had some rust but was professionally repaired with metal and welding (is this acceptable or a big red flag?)
-body has some small rust patches around fenders and corners (seems typical at 140k miles when 14 years old)

I will update with more info later. But any suggestions and/or critiques are always welcome!
Have you tried looking in a state that doesn't get a lot of snow? Autotrader is great for that and it shouldn't be more than a few hundred bucks to get a one-way ticket there. Hell it would be cheaper to do that than fix all these rusted jeeps you're looking at.
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That's funny, I was just thinking of maybe looking south! Tough though because you could fly all the way down there and end up not liking the Jeep you came for. But may consider it.

Anyway, this last one I went to see was listed all wrong. The guy's wife listed it as a 98 Sport, but it is actually a 95 Sahara! Its got a good bit of rust along the fenders, door lines, hood lines, etc... If I was to consider this one it would have to be for $3800-4000 and then I would put $1500 into the body work and a paint job. Just not sure if that is even the right thing to do.
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Try a search on cargurus too.

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