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Old 04-27-2009, 04:09 PM   #1
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Question Newbie with A few ?'s before I purchase a jeep...

I have decided to get a Wrangler in the next week or two. I have never owned a Jeep before and I am excited to get into one soon.

I have a few questions that will help me in finding and choosing which jeep will best suit me. First of all I live in MI where we get quite a bit of snow and I need my Jeep to be a year round daily driver.

I do know that I want to either A. Find a Jeep already lifted or B. Lift my Jeep ASAP. I have heard that it is cheaper to find a Jeep already lifted and customized, especially since I will not be doing the work myself.

Here are two jeeps I am looking at locally.
01 JEEP TJ WRANGLER 4.0 LITER WARN WINCH LOW MILEAGE
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2001 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Sport BLACK 2 Dr. Wagon. A Jeep Wrangler at Seif Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Caledonia MI

My first question is in regards to snow tires. If my jeep is lifted and has 31" tires or larger will I need to get a set of skinnier winter tires? Or will I be OK with the larger Coopers or MT's?

And 3rd. Auto vs Manual? I prefer to drive Manuals in cars, is a jeep any different?

My second question is, Will I want a hard top for winter driving? I have done a little research and have found mixed answers...

Just looking for a little input from some experienced drivers. I appreciate any answers.

Thanks,
Nick

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Old 04-27-2009, 04:38 PM   #2
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You'll be fine with the 31's. You could get a smaller size, but I wouldn't waste the money on them. I live in MN and have only a soft top. It would be nice to have a hard top in the winter, but it's not necessary. The cold weather has never been a problem, just the noise factor. It's damn near impossible to talk on a cell phone or hear it ring driving 55+ mph. As for you 3rd question, unless you pee sitting down you gotta go with a manual trans. Wranglers with autos were built for females. If you prefer a manual trans, you'll love it in the jeep. You didn't mention anything about engine size, but I see the 2 links you posted were both 4.0's. Make sure that's what you get. Hope I was helpful, good luck.

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Old 04-27-2009, 04:55 PM   #3
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Honestly, I do like the second one because it has a lot of money into it. Those 4.56 gears are expensive and make driving a lifted wrangler a lot nicer. I love doing mods to my own jeep though, plus you learn a lot about your jeep if you build it your own. You do not need a lifted Jeep, but trust me you will want it once you get the bug.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:59 PM   #4
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Hey, my Jeep is an automatic and I pee standing up.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:14 PM   #5
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Go for the auto if you like it. I have had a bunch of 5spd Jeeps and with what I do off road I love the auto more than I ever liked the 5spd.
Get the black one. Get rid of the chrome... Other than that it looks like its a good rig!
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Get the black one. Keep the chrome, lol add some nice rims.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:02 PM   #7
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Auto is the way to go. I have had a stick for years. Im done with it. There's nothing a stick can do that a auto can't. Plus you have an extra leg to pee with. LOL.
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Mud terrain tires are fine and soft top! Noise no problem either!

Soft top try and get the sailcloth material!

I drive in CT and Mass. in the winter never had any problems had the jeep in Iowa blizzard as well!

The cab is small so the heater works great only vehicle I have ever had where in the winter my wife complains the jeep is to hot!

No matter what jeep you buy! You will love it!
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Please keep in mind that if you are looking for speed, don't buy a jeep. If you are looking for gas mileage, don't buy a jeep. If you are looking for a smooth ride, don't buy a jeep. Go into ownership already knowing that you will sacrafice these types of things, but the sacrafice is well worth it. I bought my first jeep in February and I absolutely love it. There are soooo many things you can do to your jeep.
Test drive a hard top and a soft top...make sure you put it out on the highway. There is considerable difference in noise. I have a hard top and a full bikini top, but most guys on here that I have heard prefer soft tops. One more thing, you have come to the right place for questions and answers. These guys on here are friggin awesome and there are no stupid questions, really. GOOD LUCK!!!
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Hey, my Jeep is an automatic and I pee standing up.
You lie :-p
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I have decided to get a Wrangler in the next week or two. I have never owned a Jeep before and I am excited to get into one soon.

I have a few questions that will help me in finding and choosing which jeep will best suit me. First of all I live in MI where we get quite a bit of snow and I need my Jeep to be a year round daily driver.

I do know that I want to either A. Find a Jeep already lifted or B. Lift my Jeep ASAP. I have heard that it is cheaper to find a Jeep already lifted and customized, especially since I will not be doing the work myself.

Here are two jeeps I am looking at locally.
01 JEEP TJ WRANGLER 4.0 LITER WARN WINCH LOW MILEAGE
or
2001 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Sport BLACK 2 Dr. Wagon. A Jeep Wrangler at Seif Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Caledonia MI

My first question is in regards to snow tires. If my jeep is lifted and has 31" tires or larger will I need to get a set of skinnier winter tires? Or will I be OK with the larger Coopers or MT's?

And 3rd. Auto vs Manual? I prefer to drive Manuals in cars, is a jeep any different?

My second question is, Will I want a hard top for winter driving? I have done a little research and have found mixed answers...

Just looking for a little input from some experienced drivers. I appreciate any answers.

Thanks,
Nick
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Old 04-28-2009, 10:20 AM   #12
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I figured my "pee standing up" comment would irk a few....lol. Seriously though, if you prefer a manual anyhow, I think you'll love it in the wrangler. I know I do. Now get out there and pull the trigger on one!
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I have decided to get a Wrangler in the next week or two. I have never owned a Jeep before and I am excited to get into one soon.

I have a few questions that will help me in finding and choosing which jeep will best suit me. First of all I live in MI where we get quite a bit of snow and I need my Jeep to be a year round daily driver.

I do know that I want to either A. Find a Jeep already lifted or B. Lift my Jeep ASAP. I have heard that it is cheaper to find a Jeep already lifted and customized, especially since I will not be doing the work myself.

Here are two jeeps I am looking at locally.
01 JEEP TJ WRANGLER 4.0 LITER WARN WINCH LOW MILEAGE
or
2001 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Sport BLACK 2 Dr. Wagon. A Jeep Wrangler at Seif Chevrolet Buick Pontiac Caledonia MI

My first question is in regards to snow tires. If my jeep is lifted and has 31" tires or larger will I need to get a set of skinnier winter tires? Or will I be OK with the larger Coopers or MT's?

And 3rd. Auto vs Manual? I prefer to drive Manuals in cars, is a jeep any different?

My second question is, Will I want a hard top for winter driving? I have done a little research and have found mixed answers...

Just looking for a little input from some experienced drivers. I appreciate any answers.

Thanks,
Nick
Go with the 1st jeep (yellow) much cleaner looking, nicely done. The hard top is nice to have but not necessary. 5 spd vs. auto is all about your personal preference. I have a 5 spd and love it. I know people with auto's and they both seem to get the same mpg. I personally think the manual transmission is much more durable. A clutch is much cheaper than a automatic trans. For the miles difference and price difference the yellow jeep is by far the best buy and very fair priced...
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I'd do with the black one. Overall really good. Lift and sye and regeared. Hardtop. A lot of money dumped in their. Stock color and hardtop. The transmission was converted to automatic because jeep didn't make an automatic stock 4L in 01
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I like them both but as others said the black one has more stuff on it that you will be probably end up doing anyway. I lived upstate NY and we snow was insane. I had a soft top and no problems at all. I was wondering myself before I get the jeep if I need a hard top but I am very satisfied.
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I'd do with the black one. Overall really good. Lift and sye and regeared. Hardtop. A lot of money dumped in their. Stock color and hardtop. The transmission was converted to automatic because jeep didn't make an automatic stock 4L in 01
Um, I have a 4.0L auto '01 sport. Came from the factory with the auto....
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I'd go with the black one personally....take some of the chrome off of it...lol...get a soft top and a matching spare wheel/tire...and you are set... and it looks like a very fair price...either one will be great to cruise, crawl, or play in the mud with. =)

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