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Old 02-15-2011, 11:52 PM   #1
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Newbie with a lift question

Hello all...back in the Jeep game. Just got an 03 Wrangler bone stock with 10k on the speedo. 5 speed manual - 4.0L and looking to beef it up a bit with Cooper STT 35s. From the build sheet I have a D44 in the rear with a 3.73 and D30 in the front and not sure about the gearing.

I'm not looking to do any crazy wheeling but maybe an occasional light off roading. I received a quote from 4wd Parts for $4500 which includes:

1. 4 - 35x12.50 Cooper STTs
2. 4 - 15x8 MT Classic Locks
3. ProComp 4" lift (short arm)
4. Slip yoke eliminator with Tom Woods driveshaft
5. Steering Stabilizer
6. Trac Bar

The guy I talked to said it would be best to regear above 4.10 (another $750-$800) and put a long arm lift vs. short arm (another $1400). I'm looking at about $6000 to do this. Does this sound right?

Does that pretty much cover everything I need?

Note: I had a 94 YJ 4.0L I6 when I was younger. I put a 3" body lift and 33x12.50 BFG MTs and the power was good but I kept snapping my U-joints. I attributed this to the driveshaft angle but never upgraded driveshafts. Never had the death wobble though IIRC.

Thanks and any help would greatly be appreciated.

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Old 02-16-2011, 08:51 AM   #2
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Going big is expensive. I can't comment on the pricing, but it sounds like they are looking to do things right. From what I understand the long arms will ride much nicer than the short arms. You should upgrade the brakes as well for 35's and the gears you probably will want lower than 4:10's. Not sure what the gearing for 35's in a manual are recommended to be tho.

I have to ask why you want to go so big for mild offroading? It's your money, but if you don't need that much clearance, it's an awful lot of expense for an inch. You can put 33's on for quite a bit less, and still look good and go places your friends can only dream of...

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Thanks for the reply InfernoGirl. Gearing recommended was above the 4.10 range but forget the exact number. Anyhow, the long arm vs. short arm was pitched to me as eliminating the Death Wobble. The very same issue of difference in $$$ was brought up regarding 33s vs. 35s by the 4wd guy. When I posted here, I originally wanted to pitch the 35 option before I discussed 33s. I had 33s on my YJ some years back but would not have had an issue if I went to 35. I agree with your 33 option. With that, the $4500 quote was actually for the 33s w/wheels, short arm, custom DS w/ SYE, 4" lift, Trac Bar and labor. Would I need regearing for the 33s?
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I have an OME lift (only 2") but with another 1.25 body could EASILY run 33s. But not sure I want to climb that high to get in my Jeep at my age.
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That price seems a bit high to me.
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You can manage with 3:73's and 33's. I have 3:07's and 33's.... but mines an auto, which helps. One other thing to consider, and I just don't know, is how low you can go in your D30. At some point you need a different axle cause the gears are too big or something... Idk, blond. Anyway, sorry if I offended you with my opinion. It just seems like a lot of expense for an inch of clearance... but it's your $ and your business how you spend it
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With 35s you'll want to regear to 4.56 most likely. Maybe even 4.88
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I have a 2.1/2 inch lift and 32 inch tires and like it alot . Not to high but looks good . Not so high that I need alot of other stuff to make it work .(think dollars)

I would only go that big(4") if I was thinking about alot of off road . Just to many headaches I don,t need . The 2.1/2 inch lift is simple / cheap and looks good .
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Do as much of the work as you can yourself. Save some coin.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:33 PM   #10
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Pulled the trigger on the quote. I've done the research and it will be done right. Unfortunately I didn't realize it was going to be this much but that's what I get for thinking. I'll get some pics and post once done. Thanks for everyone's advice.

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Wow! That's a great find with only 10k! Mine had only 13.4k when I bought it, but that was almost three years ago. I'd appreciate your feedback once you get the Cooper STT tires. Thanks.
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Will do.

The guy I bought it from was pretty well off. This guy had a Cayenne as his third car and lived in Hollywood Hills. He only used the Jeep on nice days to get groceries. The day he bought it....7 years ago....he took off the back windows of the softop and never put them back on since. He pulled them out and they still smelled like the factory. A good find I must say.

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